Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-09 Thread Chip Childers
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Alex Huang wrote: > I wonder if we can do the following: > > - Tag all emails about release 4.0 with something like "[ASFCS40]". This is > to allow developers to easily identify 4.0 chains and prioritize it. +1 - I'll start doing that myself, as of today.

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-09 Thread Chip Childers
Ewan: comments below. David: response to your point about OSCON conversations in another part of this thread is also below. Generally, I'm sorry if I came off sounding like an alarmist. That wasn't my intent. I just don't want us to have an impedance missmatch between our "plan" and what's actua

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-09 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Alex Huang wrote: > From a developer pov, I've been finding our current release rather difficult > to follow on the mailing list. I appreciate Chip's work in sending daily > updates on what's been done. I've been relying on it to monitor the release > progress

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-09 Thread David Nalley
Wow each of these could be its own email thread. > > So we're < 3 days away from the proposed release candidate being cut. > I'm not sure about other's opinion right now, but I think that we > might have been overly optimistic in the target dates. The licensing > issues alone are going to take lo

RE: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Huang
>From a developer pov, I've been finding our current release rather difficult >to follow on the mailing list. I appreciate Chip's work in sending daily >updates on what's been done. I've been relying on it to monitor the release >progress but I wonder if this can be done more automatically.

RE: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-08 Thread Ewan Mellor
> -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] > > [Snip] > > So we're < 3 days away from the proposed release candidate being cut. No we're not. We're 3 days away from the proposed opening of the release branch, when we would stop developing features, and

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-08 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: > Hi all, > > After my draft release plan last week, I've taken the feedback that I got > (thanks for that, everyone) and I think we're ready to commit to this plan > now. > > The timescales are very tight, but that's the aim - get something ou

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-02 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Arve Paalsrud wrote: > If someone updates the original message.properties to the latest version, > we'll do a UI translation for Norwegian (no chance for the docs at this time > though). > > -Arve Arve, I just updated this, but there were almost zero changes, an

RE: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-02 Thread Arve Paalsrud
If someone updates the original message.properties to the latest version, we'll do a UI translation for Norwegian (no chance for the docs at this time though). -Arve On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mice Xia wrote: > I can translate simplified Chinese resources. > Before that I want to know the

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-01 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mice Xia wrote: > I can translate simplified Chinese resources. > Before that I want to know the scope of this task, do ' internationalization' > mean i18n (extracting messages to resource files, etc), or L10n (translation > resources files to other languages), o

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-08-01 Thread Mice Xia
I can translate simplified Chinese resources. Before that I want to know the scope of this task, do ' internationalization' mean i18n (extracting messages to resource files, etc), or L10n (translation resources files to other languages), or both of them? -Original Message- I would like

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-31 Thread Chip Childers
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:39 AM, David Nalley wrote: > 3. Continue on the license audit path. This is really two fold: > * Search for files that need ASF license headers. > * Verify that there are no prohibited licenses. > * Define the pieces of software that require attribution in Notice f

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:23:03AM -0400, Chip Childers wrote: > "we are working towards" / "there are outstanding issues that will > have to be resolved in a short period of time" > > Basically, hedge it a little bit... ;-) Oh, absolutely. My main concern is the appearance of radio silence while

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-31 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ewan Mellor > wrote: >> David Nalley, Pradeep Soundararajan, Chip Childers, and Edison Su are >> working on sorting out our build dependencies, turning off things that >> depend on non-Apache SDKs (libvirt

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-31 Thread Chip Childers
"we are working towards" / "there are outstanding issues that will have to be resolved in a short period of time" Basically, hedge it a little bit... ;-) -chip On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 02:33:07AM +0100, Ewan Mellor wrote: >> Hi all, >> >>

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-31 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 02:33:07AM +0100, Ewan Mellor wrote: > Hi all, > > After my draft release plan last week, I've taken the feedback that I got > (thanks for that, everyone) and I think we're ready to commit to this plan > now. OK. I'm going to put something on the blog and forums today ab

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-31 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: > David Nalley, Pradeep Soundararajan, Chip Childers, and Edison Su are working > on sorting out our build dependencies, turning off things that depend on > non-Apache SDKs (libvirt-java, mysql-connector-java, NetApp, F5, and VMware > SDKs).

RE: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread Ewan Mellor
> -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:37 PM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Ewan Mellor > wrote: &g

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread Chip Childers
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] >> Sent: 27 July 2012 08:14 >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan >>

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread David Nalley
> In terms of future planning, that's a conversation I was hoping to start next > week. We need to decide on whether we're doing feature-driven releases or > time-based ones (my preference is time-based, but I'm open to arguments about > that) and then we need to decide on a release cadence, a

RE: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread Ewan Mellor
> -Original Message- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com] > Sent: 27 July 2012 08:14 > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Wido den Hollander > wrote: > &

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 07/27/2012 05:13 PM, Chip Childers wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: How are we going to decide what is going into 4.0 and not? Do we have a list of functionality what we want to see in 4.0? Wido If memory serves me, I thought the list previously agreed

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread Chip Childers
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > How are we going to decide what is going into 4.0 and not? > > Do we have a list of functionality what we want to see in 4.0? > > Wido If memory serves me, I thought the list previously agreed that 4.0 would focus on meeting the licens

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-27 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 07/26/2012 01:42 AM, Ewan Mellor wrote: Hi all, I'm putting together a plan for a CloudStack 4.0 release. This will be the first release under the Apache (incubated) banner, which is the main reason for the change in major version number. This plan is a draft, and your comments are more

RE: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-26 Thread Ewan Mellor
> -Original Message- > From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:56 AM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:42:33AM +0100, Ewan Mellor wrote: > >

Re: CloudStack 4.0 release plan

2012-07-26 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:42:33AM +0100, Ewan Mellor wrote: > This plan is a draft, and your comments are more than welcome. > > > Development phase: Now - Friday 10 August. > Release branch opens: Monday 13 August. > Stability and bugfix work: Monday 13-Friday 17 August. > Release candidate bui