Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Henry Mensch
loaded just fine on my win 11 system (but I didn't give it a heavy evaluation). - Henry N6HCM On January 2, 2023 22:37:10 "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." wrote: > Is CHIRP-NEXT going to be accessible only in Linux or have things improved in > python that it will now be accessible in Windows, MAC, and Linux

[chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread donotreply
Greetings, A new build of CHIRP-next is available. This includes changes made directly to the tree since yesterday and may include additional features, bug fixes, etc. As a reminder, this is different from the "daily" CHIRP builds in that new development and features are happening here. It is t

Re: [chirp_users] New Chirp-Next Build

2023-01-03 Thread Dave B via chirp_users
I'll have to wait to catch up with this needed (and welcome) change, as I first need to upgrade my OS (Mint 19.3 64 bit, still supported until April) to a later LTS version first. That...  Is going to take me some time, just to recreate all the tools and utilities I've used over the last 5 year

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Scott Lopez
Be aware of Ubuntu's IPRights Policy, particularity concerning redistribution: https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy Yes, installing a 3rd party package (Chirp) and distributing a VM image of it can be considered 'modification'. On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:33 PM K0LNY_Glenn wrote:

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Scott Lopez
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:07 PM Ken Hansen wrote: > What was the original issue that took us down this particular rabbit hole? > That going forward development of a Win7 compatible CHIRP would cease, > preventing Win7 users from running the latest/greatest release of CHIRP. > > The updated python

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread John LaMartina
Sorry for the confusion. I was responding to a different email.No, I do not use a screen reader. JohnOn Jan 3, 2023, at 1:21 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:John,I was asking about accessibility for blind users using a screen reader. Are you saying that your Windows 10 runs CHIRP and your screen reade

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Ken Hansen
Shipping a complete Ubuntu installation in a VM just to have CHIRP pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically a single line command would install CHIRP, wouldn't it?CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI install of Ubuntu is measured in gigabytes.Ken, N2VIPOn Jan 3, 2023, at 06:23, Scott Lopez

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Well for accessibility, that is for the visually impaired to use Chirp, they will need a Linux using Python 2X, and an old Chirp that will install into it. Personally, I've not ever gotten a package of Chirp to be able to install right from downloading a Linux package, I rely on using apt to get

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Dean Berglund
Ken, Thank you for your response. Very nicely suggested. I will look into getting another machine or as some others have suggested, to install Linux or Ubuntu in a VM. I have to say you, and most people have given good and friendly advice and I thank all of you for this. Although I don't use Ch

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Ken Hansen
You're discussing what some would call an edge case, hams that want to run CHIRP and have vision issues.For example, it's no clear Ubuntu would allow distributing an "Ubuntu + CHIRP + Screenreader" image, based on this restriction:You can redistribute Ubuntu, but only where there has been no modifi

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Tony Ling
I can also recommend the Raspberry Pi (when shortages abate) as a dedicated shack PC. HamPi https://sourceforge.net/projects/hampi/ release an SD image which has just about every conceivable Ubuntu amateur application bundled, including of course CHIRP. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 16:41, Dean Berglund

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread David Boucha
Hey Glenn, I just tested running chirp directly from the git repository by installing the dependencies with "pip3 install -r requirements", then running "chirpwx.py" and orca was able to read everything to me. I'm not an expert on orca. I think the navigation worked, but it did seem to work fine.

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Ken Hansen
Dean,Thank you, you're most welcome.If you do wind up running a second machine, take a look into getting what's called a KVM switch, it allows you to share one keyboard/mouse/display with two computers, you simply press a button or press a 'hot-key' combination on the keyboard to switch systems.The

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
What I'm just asking is: "Is 'CHIRP-NEXT' accessible with a screen reader?, If so which operating systems?" Current old CHIRP is accessible in Linux with the standard ORCA screen reader under MATE Desktop Environment. Will the change to python 3 change accessibility in Linux or other operating sy

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Hi David, Actually, a string of stuff that can be written into a bash script would be great, with the preclusion that the user install git first. So yes, it would be appreciated. Glenn - Original Message - From: David Boucha To: Discussion of CHIRP Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 11:04

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Julian Macassey
On 2023-01-03 at 09:00, Ken Hansen (k...@n2vip.org) wrote: Dear Ken, I notice you seem to the only poster here using HTML. This makes reading your appreciated posts tricky. UTF-8 works fine is a faster read. Yours Julian Macassey, G8LUK, N6ARE, OZ9IY P.S. I am so tempted to post complai

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread David Boucha
Hi Glenn, These are the steps I took to install Chirp manually on Ubuntu 22.04 Steps to install Chirp manually on Linux. 1. Make sure you have at least Python 3.7 installed. A. Type "python" in a command line terminal. B. Some Linux distros require using "python3". If your distro r

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Martin Cooper
Just FYI, on Linux Mint 20.3 Cinnamon, I found it faster to install wxPython from the wheel on the wxPython website than to let it be installed via requirements.txt. That also obviates the need for wxgtk4 package installation. Wheels are available for a number of Linux versions here: https://extra

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Thanks David, I'll give it a go later, after I get the snow scooped. I just noticed we got enough last night that I need to tend to that first. I'll let folks know how it works for me with Orca. Glenn - Original Message - From: David Boucha To: Discussion of CHIRP Sent: Tuesday, January

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread ken hartmann
How do i go about downloading the new chirp On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 1:44 PM Julian Macassey wrote: > On 2023-01-03 at 09:00, Ken Hansen (k...@n2vip.org) wrote: > > Dear Ken, > I notice you seem to the only poster here using HTML. This makes > reading your appreciated posts tricky. > > UTF-8

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Ken Hansen
You can get it from here:http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/KenOn Jan 3, 2023, at 15:18, ken hartmann <115ir...@gmail.com> wrote:How do i go about downloading the new chirp On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 1:44 PM Julian Macassey wrote:On 2023-01-03 at 09:00, Ken Hansen (k...@n2vip.

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread John La
This may assist. The download link can be found here. https://www.miklor.com/CHIRP/ John From: chirp_users-boun...@intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:chirp_users-boun...@intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of ken hartmann Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 3:26 PM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Stuart Longland VK4MSL via chirp_users
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 09:14:03 -0600 Dean Berglund wrote: > Tony, you are correct although just because Microsoft doesn't support > Windows 7 doesn't mean a program can't still work on Windows 7. Likely the limiting factor is, the runtime environment Chirp runs on: Python. And given how much of a

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Hi David, Well I installed python, and it says it's 3.9.2 I've tried pip --version and pip3 --version and I get an error. I tried it both with python3 running and without. I'll get the zip, but I will need pip first I'm sure. Is that something to also be installed? Thanks. - Original Message -

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Hi David, I installed pip, and unzipped Chirp. I didn't really find install steps in the readme.md file. I tried python3 setup.py and got errors, and it did not install. Your steps stop at go into the new Chirp directory. Thanks for any assistance. Glenn - Original Message - From: David B

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread David Boucha
Yeah, try running "sudo apt install python3-pip" On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 8:30 PM K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Hi David, > Well I installed python, and it says it's 3.9.2 > I've tried pip --version and pip3 --version and I get an error. > I tried it both with python3 running and without. > I'll get the zip,

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Guy Schlosser
Hi Glenn, try sudo apt-get install python3-pip. That got it installed on my machine. Guy Ke8JYP On 1/3/23 22:32, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:  Hi David, Well I installed python, and it says it's 3.9.2 I've tried pip --version and pip3 --version and I get an error. I tried it both with python3 running

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Guy Schlosser
Even though I didn't get chirp running from the command line, I was able to run it with python3 chirpwx.py while in the source folder. Here's what I found: Orca is reading menus, and will allow you to open and save files After opening a known good radio image, Orca announced to me that the me

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Ken Hansen
Please, Stop. It's not unreasonable for Microsoft to be paid to use its operating system, they do not owe 'free' licenses to people that build their own systems from components. (Win10 Pro OEM COA licenses are as little as $30 from various websites if you need to buy a license.) I don't under

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Okay, I read the file called install So I ran sudo python3 setup.py --record install files.txt Or something like that, and it looked okay, now I'll test it out. Glenn - Original Message - From: K0LNY_Glenn To: Discussion of CHIRP Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [chir

[chirp_users] Nice!

2023-01-03 Thread John KI4RO
Really like the new look of CHIRP! I still cannot use CHIRP on Windows to program my AnyTone 778UV, but other than that it works just fine. 73 KI4RO. ___ chirp_users mailing list chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/lis

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
Were you able to read the menus, like the radio menu? That is alt R. I could not get it to run. The install file read to type ./chirpw It cannot find that file. I considered the file you ran, but haven't tried it yet. I was hoping that installing it would have put something in the accessories or o

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread K0LNY_Glenn
When I run that command, I get errors, no Chirp. Glenn - Original Message - From: Guy Schlosser To: Discussion of CHIRP ; David Boucha Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build Even though I didn't get chirp running from the command line,

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Glenn, Locate the file first. As root in a terminal: updatedb Then let it update the file location database. Then try the command: locate chirpw Change to the folder where chirpw is found and issue the command' ./chirpw You need the ./ to tell your system that the command is to be found

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread Stuart Longland VK4MSL via chirp_users
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 22:14:14 -0600 Ken Hansen wrote: > Please, Stop. Stop what? > It's not unreasonable for Microsoft to be paid to use its operating > system, they do not owe 'free' licenses to people that build their > own systems from components. Please quote the part of my email where I mad

Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

2023-01-03 Thread W Paul Mills
When I installed chirp-next, it showed up as 'chirp' not  'chirpw' and was located at '/usr/local/bin/chirp' On 1/4/23 00:18, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:  When I run that command, I get errors, no Chirp. Glenn - Original Message - *From:* Guy Schlosser *To:* Discussion