What I'm just asking is: "Is 'CHIRP-NEXT' accessible with a screen reader?, If so which operating systems?"
Current old CHIRP is accessible in Linux with the standard ORCA screen reader under MATE Desktop Environment. Will the change to python 3 change accessibility in Linux or other operating systems? Kind regards, David N1EA On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 11:59 Ken Hansen <k...@n2vip.org> wrote: > You're discussing what some would call an edge case, hams that want to run > CHIRP and have vision issues. > > For example, it's no clear Ubuntu would allow distributing an "Ubuntu + > CHIRP + Screenreader" image, based on this restriction: > > > - You can redistribute Ubuntu, but only where there has been no > modification to it. > > Source: https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy > > But there are other distributions that likely would allow it. > > I believe CHIRP-NEXT is intended to be easier to install/configure, if it > is not already, and if that's the case, we're back to a single-command > install of CHIRP, but configuration of a screenreader woukd still be an > exercise for the user. > > Ken, N2VIP > > On Jan 3, 2023, at 09:56, K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > > > Well for accessibility, that is for the visually impaired to use Chirp, > they will need a Linux using Python 2X, and an old Chirp that will install > into it. > Personally, I've not ever gotten a package of Chirp to be able to install > right from downloading a Linux package, I rely on using apt to get Chirp > from a repository. > I had to follow step by step instruction to get Chirp to install into a > newer Linux with Python 3, and I found after all that that flatpak breaks > accessibility. > So rather than putting someone through all that, I'm sure there are folks > who would gladly download a big file that they can rite to a drive and boot > it up and have Chirp working. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken Hansen <k...@n2vip.org> > *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2023 9:00 AM > *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build > > Shipping a complete Ubuntu installation in a VM just to have CHIRP > pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically a single line command > would install CHIRP, wouldn't it? > > CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI install of Ubuntu is measured in > gigabytes. > > Ken, N2VIP > > On Jan 3, 2023, at 06:23, Scott Lopez <scot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Be aware of Ubuntu's IPRights Policy, particularity concerning > redistribution: > > https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy > > Yes, installing a 3rd party package (Chirp) and distributing a VM image of > it can be considered 'modification'. > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:33 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > >> Well if it is the only someone can use Chirp, either for accessibility, >> or because of operating system, I see nothing wrong with it. >> I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and Chirp on it, if I can find a >> drive with just that on it, and give a link to anyone who wants it. >> Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with several operating systems on >> it, so I'll need to go through a bunch of them to find one that has Ubuntu >> 18 and Chirp. >> >> Glenn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Scott Lopez <scot...@gmail.com> >> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2023 7:22 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build >> >> I can't imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, >> distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no >> longer supported software. I know I wouldn't want to be. There's a reason >> the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep up. >> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: >> >>> What would be handy is to have a VM of Ubuntu with the old Chirp already >>> installed, so that can be implemented. >>> I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a thumb drive with Chirp on it, >>> but I don't know if that can be made into a VM. >>> Glenn >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email >> To unsubscribe, send an email to >> chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> To report this email as off-topic, please email >> chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> Searchable archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to scot...@gmail.com at scot...@gmail.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email to >> chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> To report this email as off-topic, please email >> chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> Searchable archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to Ken Hansen at k...@n2vip.org > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to Ken Hansen at k...@n2vip.org > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to D.J.J. 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