Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: Some questions: On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: ... You can flash back the factory firmware without serial, you just use sysupgrade with the Linksys factory image. How does that differ from mtd, e.g., as indicated here (which doesn't menti

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] still can't build for the ac1900

2015-07-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, Dave Taht wrote: checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: in `/build/cero3/src/ac1900/build_dir/toolchain-arm_cortex-a9+vfpv3_gcc-4.8-linaro_musl-1.1.10_eabi/gcc-linaro-4.8-2014.04-minimal/arm-openwrt-linux-muslgnueabi/libgcc': configure: error: cannot compute

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Joe Touch
> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: >> >> Some questions: >> >>> On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >>> ... >>> You can flash back the factory firmware without serial, you just use >>> sysupgrade with the Linksys fac

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: Can you explain where the info on using the sysupgrade command to revert to the factory image is?? http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/linksys/wrt1200ac#how_to_flash_the_firmware_to_device The web ui uses the "sysupgrade" command. So implicitly the instructions

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 10, 2015, at 09:22 , Joe Touch wrote: > > >> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: >>> >>> Some questions: >>> On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: ... You can flash back the factory fir

[Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
I transitioned from ceroWRT to lupin, now at undisclosed version 4, to try cake. I have a renown poor ADSL line, connected to TalkTalk. After getting a 60 GBP discount by negotiating with a woman and her imaginary Manager friend in Bangalore a month ago, I have no intention of moving to fibre.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
You're already using correct syntax - I've written it to be quite lenient and use sensible defaults for missing information. There are several sets of keywords and parameters which are mutually orthogonal, and don't depend on each other, so "besteffort" has nothing to do with "overhead" or "atm".

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
I am using the latest version compiled by DT, after you last made this incompatibility comment on the cake list. I happen to have compiled separately a build with your changes of 22 days ago incorporated, but based on lupin undisclosed version 2. I shall try that. I am making an assumption t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
Qdiscs should be used on any link that might become a bottleneck. In most consumer cases, that will indeed be your WAN interface. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
You are absolutely correct. I tried both a numeric overhead value, and alternatively 'pppoe-vcmux' and 'ether-fcs' in the build I crafted based on r46006, which is lupin undeclared version 2. Everything works as stated. On lupin undeclared version 4, the current release based on r46117, the

[Cerowrt-devel] "Lupin undeclared"?

2015-07-10 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Fred, I'm not familiar with "lupin undeclared" - could you send a pointer/link? Thanks. Rich On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Fred Stratton wrote: > > You are absolutely correct. > > I tried both a numeric overhead value, and alternatively 'pppoe-vcmux' and > 'ether-fcs' in the build I cra

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Jenkins
I'm glad to hear there's a working version (even if it's not in the current build :). Do you have measurable improvements with overhead configured (v.s. unconfigured)? I've used netperfrunner from CeroWrtScripts, e.g. sh netperfrunner.sh -H netperf-eu.bufferbloat.net -p $ISP_ROUTER I beli

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] "Lupin undeclared"?

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 10/07/15 16:16, Rich Brown wrote: Hi Fred, I'm not familiar with "lupin undeclared" - could you send a pointer/link? Thanks. Rich The unversioned testing build Dave posted at http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero3/lupin/ar71xx/ which is not declared on the CeroWrt homepage. (Presumab

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
I have yet to undertake formal testing. I moved from using a Buffalo WMBR-G300 running Barrier Breaker to a bridged device when I broke the former tying to install Homenet. I omitted to recraft the cake script I was using to incorporate the correct interface, now pppoe-wan, and was unaware of

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Joe Touch
On 7/10/2015 1:01 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: ... > You can flash back the factory firmware without serial, you just use > sysupgrade with the Linksys factory image. How does that differ from mtd, e.g., as indicated here (which doesn't mention sysinstall)?: ... >> Can you

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
By your command Rebooted to rerun qdisc script, rather than changing qdiscs from the command-line, so suboptimal process as end-point changed. script configuring qdiscs and overhead 40 on sh netperfrunner.sh -H netperf-eu.bufferbloat.net -p 2.96.48.1 2015-07-10 18:22:08 Testing netperf-eu.buff

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in relation to the min and the 90% number, in your examples all of these are terrible). Could you please post the result of the following commands

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
On 10/07/15 19:46, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in relation to the min and the 90% number, in your examples all of these are terrible). Could you p

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Dave Taht
enabled 1 is needed On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Fred Stratton wrote: > > > On 10/07/15 19:46, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi Fred, >> >> your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the >> latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in >> re

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 10/07/15 19:25, Fred Stratton wrote: By your command Rebooted to rerun qdisc script, rather than changing qdiscs from the command-line, so suboptimal process as end-point changed. Assuming you use sqm-scripts, you can restart SQM manually. "/etc/init.d/sqm restart". _

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
> qdisc cake 8002: dev pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 850Kbit besteffort > flows raw > qdisc cake 8001: dev ifb4pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 11500Kbit > besteffort flows atm overhead 40 > Download: 6.8 Mbps > Upload: 0.59 Mbps Does anyone else see the discrepancy here? Simply put,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonathan, hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:18 , Jonathan Morton wrote: >> qdisc cake 8002: dev pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 850Kbit besteffort >> flows raw > >> qdisc cake 8001: dev ifb4pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 11500Kbit >> besteffort flows atm overhead 40 > >> Download: 6.8

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
bridge sync is circa 10 000 kbit/s with the cake option in sqm enabled config queue 'eth1' option qdisc_advanced '0' option enabled '1' option interface 'pppoe-wan' option upload '850' option qdisc 'cake' option script 'simple_pppoe.qos' option linklayer 'atm' opt

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:34 , Fred Stratton wrote: > bridge sync is circa 10 000 kbit/s > > with the cake option in sqm enabled > > config queue 'eth1' >option qdisc_advanced '0' >option enabled '1' >option interface 'pppoe-wan' >option upload '850' >option qdisc 'c

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 10/07/15 20:34, Fred Stratton wrote: bridge sync is circa 10 000 kbit/s with the cake option in sqm enabled config queue 'eth1' option qdisc_advanced '0' option enabled '1' option interface 'pppoe-wan' option upload '850' option qdisc 'cake' option script 'simple_pppo

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Alan, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:41 , Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 10/07/15 20:34, Fred Stratton wrote: >> bridge sync is circa 10 000 kbit/s >> >> with the cake option in sqm enabled >> >> config queue 'eth1' >>option qdisc_advanced '0' >>option enabled '1' >>option interface 'pppoe-w

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
These are the latest scripts, AFAIK no overhead allowance. I note. On 10/07/15 20:40, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:34 , Fred Stratton wrote: bridge sync is circa 10 000 kbit/s with the cake option in sqm enabled config queue 'eth1' option qdisc_advanced

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 10/07/15 20:45, Fred Stratton wrote: These are the latest scripts, AFAIK no overhead allowance. I note. Excellent point. There is, but SQM uses "tc stab" for it by default, and there's no way to read that out. To test using the overhead code in cake, add option linklayer_adapta

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:45 , Fred Stratton wrote: > These are the latest scripts, AFAIK Let me repeat my question: are these the scripts I attached in one of the last mails, or the most recent scripts from ceropackages-3.10? The version in the openwrt repository is NOT recent

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
replaced /usr/lib/sqm as ordered cat /etc/config/sqm config queue 'eth1' option qdisc_advanced '0' option enabled '1' option interface 'pppoe-wan' option upload '850' option qdisc 'cake' option linklayer 'atm' option overhead '40' option download '8500' option

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 22:07 , Fred Stratton wrote: > replaced /usr/lib/sqm as ordered Thanks. > > cat /etc/config/sqm > > config queue 'eth1' >option qdisc_advanced '0' >option enabled '1' >option interface 'pppoe-wan' >option upload '850' >option qdisc 'ca

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Stratton
sh betterspeedtest.sh -4 -H netperf-eu.bufferbloat.ne t -t 150 -p netperf-eu.bufferbloat.net -n 4 ; sh netperfrunner.sh -4 -H netperf- eu.bufferbloat.net -t 150 -p netperf-eu.bufferbloat.net -n 4 2015-07-10 21:15:19 Testing against netperf-eu.bufferbloat.net (ipv4) with 4 simultaneous sessions

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, and now the values look decent, the latency under load increase is bounded to 38ms worst case, not bad at all for am ADSL line. Best Regards Sebastian On Jul 10, 2015, at 22:24 , Fred Stratton wrote: > sh betterspeedtest.sh -4 -H netperf-eu.bufferbloat.ne > t -t 150 -p netpe

[Cerowrt-devel] Hope viasat gets it more right than gogo!

2015-07-10 Thread Dave Taht
see: http://broadbandrating.com/news/virgin-america-superfast-internet/ I wonder if someone would let one of us on board with an openwrt box to play with on their downlink? The gogo dataset is in this dir: http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/GoGoSFO/gogo_in_flight_interplanetary_latencies.png

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] "Lupin undeclared"?

2015-07-10 Thread Rich Brown
Ahah! I had not noticed the new code name. It's well protected - the Googles didn't find anything. [But now it will... Oh dear... :-) ] Rich On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Alan Jenkins wrote: > The unversioned testing build Dave posted at > > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero3/lupin/ar