Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] [Cake] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

2021-08-08 Thread Jonathan Morton
ive to > each other, and the packet rate drops through the floor until they stop > having relative motion. And I assume that also applies to time-varying > path-loss and path-distance (multipath reflections). So is it time to mount test stations on model r

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point

2021-07-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
can be rather sophisticated. Increased levels of sophistication in both the AQM and the endpoint's congestion control algorithm may be used to increase the "network power" actually obtained. The required level of complexity for each, achieving reasonably good res

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point

2021-07-09 Thread Jonathan Morton
criterion 2 being false. The number of flows going to even a family household is probably in the low dozens at best. A control-theory approach can also work here. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.n

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Abandoning Window-based CC Considered Harmful (was Re: Bechtolschiem)

2021-07-08 Thread Jonathan Morton
based/paced sending with limiting the amount of inflight data So this corresponds to approach a) in Roland's taxonomy. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Bechtolschiem

2021-07-02 Thread Jonathan Morton
ose bursts are not lost, the flows experiencing them are not disadvantaged and the so-called "capture effect" will not occur. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] semi off-topic: LEDs on WRT1200AC

2021-03-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
ting limit resistors. You won't notice the change in brightness, and the LEDs will last much longer. And if there *aren't* any limit resistors - well, there's yer problem. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] semi off-topic: LEDs on WRT1200AC

2021-03-16 Thread Jonathan Morton
mine. You then only need to remember which way round to fit them. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations !

2021-03-16 Thread Jonathan Morton
ot;Lite" would probably then be sufficient. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations !

2021-03-16 Thread Jonathan Morton
hat bottleneck is why SQM can't reach wire speed on that class of hardware. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations !

2021-03-16 Thread Jonathan Morton
-performance wifi AP, but it'll handle the speed just fine, with SQM, over Ethernet. You should be able to attach a dedicated bridge AP to it. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bu

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] how to ecn again on osx and ios!!!

2021-03-09 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 9 Mar, 2021, at 10:38 pm, Dave Taht wrote: > > sudo sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.disable_tcp_heuristics=1 Now that might well be the missing link. I think we missed it before since it doesn't have "ecn" in its name. - Jonathan Morton ___

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] Fwd: [Galene] Dave on bufferbloat and jitter at 8pm CET Tuesday 23

2021-02-24 Thread Jonathan Morton
ch was very much not the case some years ago). However, there's no tariff at any convenient level between 1Mbps (poverty tariff) and 50Mbps (probably radio limited on a single carrier). - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] my thx to spacex (and kerbal space program) forcheering me up all year

2021-01-01 Thread Jonathan Morton
k itself, but in the consumer-end modem. This is fixable, just as soon as Starlink put their minds to it, because it's based on the same Atheros SoCs as the consumer CPE we're already familiar with. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel maili

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] openwrt or "open" security cams?

2020-04-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 4 Apr, 2020, at 2:08 am, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > > 128G of Ram That's somewhat more than I have in my desktop PCs. Did you mean 128MB? - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferb

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] telenor was at a+ for a while

2019-12-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 3 Dec, 2019, at 7:14 pm, Dave Taht wrote: > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/isp/r2823-telenor-internet Yes, they tell me they have fq_codel deployed on their fixed-line networks. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mai

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] althea presentation on isp in a box at nanog 76

2019-06-24 Thread Jonathan Morton
is based on. Custom firmware, sticker over the logo… it works well. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] (no subject)

2019-05-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
but > approximately half a second to the one-way path delay, with potentially > thousands of packets existing only as radio waves in the distance between, > not in a queue. Continuing my train of thought, what Kleinrock really implies is that the cwnd should *exceed* the native

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] (no subject)

2019-05-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
hop adds only two nodes but approximately half a second to the one-way path delay, with potentially thousands of packets existing only as radio waves in the distance between, not in a queue. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-dev

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
bly have strict priority over the global classes but which Should Not be sent over the core network, and Should be interpreted as Low Priority if encountered by a device not specifically configured to understand them. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-06 is in last call

2019-02-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
ame way you'd *normally* write a number down. The TOS field can sometimes be confusing because the DSCP field is the upper 6 bits and the ECN field the lower 2, and the BSD Sockets API gives you the while byte to work with while DSCPs are quoted as just their own 6 bits. So you have to shi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] I so love seeing stuff like this

2019-02-01 Thread Jonathan Morton
nk logo. I'm not sure that it supports 802.11ac, but it does work fine in my setup. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] toaster-net

2019-01-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 10 Jan, 2019, at 4:07 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > a netnews thread from 1988: > > https://web.archive.org/web/20030718205943/http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk:80/multimedia/misc/tcp_ip/8813.mm.www/0178.html Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec -

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] fq_pie for linux

2018-12-11 Thread Jonathan Morton
gt; ago). I wonder if it's worth extracting the triple-isolate and set-associative hash logic from Cake for this purpose? The interface to COBALT is clean enough to be replaced by other AQMs relatively easily. - Jonathan Morton ___

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] security guidelines for home routers

2018-11-27 Thread Jonathan Morton
ecessary. Then write the necessary software in assembly, which can be translated to machine code (or at least verified) by hand if you're truly paranoid, and toggle it in byte by byte on the front panel. Good luck getting a web browser ru

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wicked OT: 240.0.0.0/4 netblock

2018-10-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
re you could use those addresses in a closed, controlled laboratory network - but not in anything you plan to deploy commercially or publicly. It would be better to use IPv6, IMHO. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cero

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] wifi trick with comcast

2018-10-09 Thread Jonathan Morton
llowances from each over the same physical cable connection. The better question would be: "what happens if/when comcast notices?" - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] apu2 sqm/htb issue + a minor win for speeding up fq_codel itself

2018-10-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
omised the device enough to run a botnet anyway. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab

2018-08-27 Thread Jonathan Morton
Indeed - and conversely, there may be interference that the transmitter can hear clearly but which is irrelevant to the intended receiver. In that case, any form of LBT will be needlessly conservative. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab

2018-08-27 Thread Jonathan Morton
, or indirectly by observing packet loss by dint of missing acknowledgements returned to the transmitter. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab

2018-08-27 Thread Jonathan Morton
radeoff, of course, is that orthogonal coding permits a reduction in waiting to transmit, but requires a reduction in data rate during the transmission. I'm sure other people have better data on that than I do. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab

2018-08-26 Thread Jonathan Morton
utually coordinating APs if necessary. The above paragraph is obviously a giant handwave... - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 1.5b for posh

2018-07-29 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 30 Jul, 2018, at 3:30 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > http://linuxgizmos.com/darpa-launches-posh-project-for-open-source-hardware-ip-blocks/ The $1.5B figure is overall for the fund, POSH got a few tens of millions. - Jonathan Morton __

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world, still?

2018-07-26 Thread Jonathan Morton
obviously have a lot more resources than we do. What could *we* do with that level of funding and organisation? Take six months, and put out a router that *doesn't* suck for a change! - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-de

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno

2018-07-21 Thread Jonathan Morton
re padding to be naturally aligned in the packet. This would give a way to halt slow-start when it reaches roughly the correct window size, instead of having it overshoot first. It would also give a way to gently control the cwnd to the ideal value while in steady-state, instead of oscillating

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno

2018-07-21 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 21 Jul, 2018, at 8:20 pm, Georgios Amanakis wrote: > > I got the same result as you. This is using latest cake. I'd like to see a tcptrace of what's going on here. A packet capture with snaplen 100 should allow me to generate one.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] building a better toaster

2018-06-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
like MyHDL (based on Python) is a tolerable alternative to coding directly in VHDL or Verilog, and can output the latter to be consumed by Xilinx' official toolchains somehow. I still dream of putting something very like Cake into hardware *and* not having

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] sqm deployment

2018-06-21 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 22 Jun, 2018, at 8:32 am, Dave Taht wrote: > >> Question: does anybody know what hides behind eero's sqm name? > > It's the sqm-scripts. So, the likelihood of them adopting Cake is…? :-) - Jonathan Morton __

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
and there's nothing theoretically stopping something similar being put into future HardMAC implementations. If we get the choice of hardware, naturally we choose wisely. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lis

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 1:43 am, dpr...@deepplum.com wrote: > > So, no, the Network Neutrality people are NOT the problem with Bufferbloat. No, but I think it's fair to point towards corporate greed and political ignorance as common causes of both problems. - J

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] sqm deployment

2018-06-15 Thread Jonathan Morton
loat education. There are a few other reviewers who are probably capable of being educated, as well, though they're less aware up-front. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] spacebee

2018-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
y of collision, given random trajectories, depends on the sizes of *both* objects involved - and rather more strongly on the size of the *larger* object. If you reduce the size of a 10cm object by 50%, it has much less effect on the combined collision radius than reduc

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone fiddlng with these?

2018-02-15 Thread Jonathan Morton
Hear, hear. Besides - exactly how is "securely sending messages to the web" useful in any way? That's the part I've never been able to figure out about the IoT nonsense. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailin

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aarch64 exploit POC

2018-01-08 Thread Jonathan Morton
on't do that on a virtualised box, but you can do it on hardware you own and operate yourself with no untrusted code. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aarch64 exploit POC

2018-01-07 Thread Jonathan Morton
t 2 is a wider problem, for which ARM has produced mitigation strategies and patches, and Variant 1 is a near-universal problem for out-of-order CPUs running untrusted code. Also, I think ARM is in a good position to remove or reduce exposure to these attacks in future core designs, including new

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Jan, 2018, at 5:35 pm, dpr...@deepplum.com wrote: > > Of course the "press" wants everyone to be superafraid, so if they can say > "KVM is affected" that causes the mob to start running for the exits! Meanwhile, in XKCD land... https://xk

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Spectre and EBPF JIT

2018-01-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
syscalls. The same is likely true for any other affected CPUs. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
e.com/watch?v=4U9MI0u2VIE - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
nlikely to find in CPE). But not on most ARM cores, nor on AMD CPUs. These all do their security checks more promptly, so the rogue data never reaches either a shadow register nor an execution unit, even under speculative execution. The conceptually simplest mitigation turns out to

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
. These are all in-order execution CPUs with short pipelines, and I think they're representative of what you'd want in CPE. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
tion). Apparently there are also mitigations for Spectre v1 and v2 which have minimal performance impact; Meltdown is the one which has a big performance cost to deal with. Probably some ARM and PowerPC server vendors could get a boost too, but only after their exposure to these attacks has been prope

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
ver folks, OTOH... - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-02 Thread Jonathan Morton
much on consumer PCs or routers, even if they do use Intel x86 CPUs, except for the performance impact we might see where the mitigation is in place. The performance impact would primarily affect system calls and context switches, I think, with much less impact on general computation.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] KASLR: Do we have to worry about other arches than x86?

2018-01-01 Thread Jonathan Morton
It looks nasty, but if it's a hardware bug then it's likely applicable only to specific CPUs. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DC behaviors today

2017-12-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
sising the importance of measurement timescales is consistently underrated in the industry and in academia alike. An hour-long bucket of traffic tells you about a very different set of characteristics than a millisecond-long bucket, and there are several timescales between those extremes of great pra

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DC behaviors today

2017-12-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
Ten times average demand estimated at time of deployment, and struggling badly with peak demand a decade later, yes. And this is the transportation industry, where a decade is a *short* time - like less than a year in telecoms. - Jonathan Morton On 13 Dec 2017 17:27, "Neil Davies" wrot

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DC behaviors today

2017-12-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
ool at the same time every day. That breaks the assumptions behind pure statistical multiplexing, and requires a greater provisioning factor. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/l

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: The 2017 Mirai

2017-01-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
lot* of Spanish speakers in the Nova’s target market. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] gaming routers...

2017-01-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
approach and the ath9k work - purely to illuminate whether the proprietary or open-source approaches are more effective in practice. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: License File for Open Source Repositories

2016-12-23 Thread Jonathan Morton
ing such patents and courts from hearing cases brought on them. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Intel latency issue

2016-12-04 Thread Jonathan Morton
ISPs, such as Virgin Media's Superhub 3 and Comcast's top-end Xfinity > boxes. There are other brands, such as Linksys and Cisco, that use the > system-on-chip that may also be affected." I do have to ask: the Atom isn’t very powerful, but WTF is it doing

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BBR congestion control algorithm for TCP in net-next

2016-09-17 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 17 Sep, 2016, at 21:34, Maciej Soltysiak wrote: > > Cake and fq_codel work on all packets and aim to signal packet loss early to > network stacks by dropping; BBR works on TCP and aims to prevent packet loss. By dropping, *or* by ECN marking. The latter avoids packet loss.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] wifi airtime fairness patches could use eyeballs and testing

2016-08-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
e reordering packets within the same flow. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] conntrack and ipv6

2016-07-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
IP addresses occur while traversing the router. Cake can therefore see the correct addresses without probing conntrack data. There's still a huge number of people on IPv4 NAT though. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-deve

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone know anything about the wifi driver on this thing?

2016-06-28 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 29 Jun, 2016, at 03:32, Dave Taht wrote: > > 10 cores, including a pair of A72s > > http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/06/helio-x20-development-board-announced-by-mediatek.html > 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi That it’s not AC suggests it’s an existing design.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Babel-users] Why we are discussing ARM [was: Cross-compiling to armhf]

2016-06-26 Thread Jonathan Morton
for one purpose or the other, but not both. This is quite common practice in the embedded world. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Why we are discussing ARM [was: Cross-compiling to armhf]

2016-06-23 Thread Jonathan Morton
sed, but is retained in the newer versions to preserve compatibility. I agree however that none of the R-Pis make good routers at the performance levels we want. They just don’t have the right kind of I/O: we need direct or PCIe attachment of Ethernet and wifi MACs, not USB and SDIO.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cross-compiling to armhf [was: beaglebone green wireless boards...]

2016-06-23 Thread Jonathan Morton
e, but ARMv6 machines were usually expected to use softfp (or even softfloat) builds originally intended for ARMv5. Since the R-Pi was obviously going to be a “platform standard” and would always include an FPU, the effort of producing a proper ARMv6-hf build

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone tried a wrtnode?

2016-06-21 Thread Jonathan Morton
gt; complex device. If I do it right, it should be able to be a good > interface for any switch/firewall. > > for too long, people have made network infrastructure device user > interfaces complicated. It's time to make them simple. I may have some ideas

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] qos calculator & paper for htb rate selection

2016-06-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
ults they obtained would have any relevance to a realistic Internet application. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trying to make sense of what switch vendors say wrt buffer bloat

2016-06-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
a daemon which can listen for and produce raw Ethernet frames using some unused protocol number. It might even turn out to be quite easy. One quick-and-dirty solution would be to bring up an IP address (or just an ARP daemon) on the target host, then use arping. -

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trying to make sense of what switch vendors say wrt buffer bloat

2016-06-06 Thread Jonathan Morton
ar as peak latency is concerned. Just because RAM is cheap these days… For anything above switch class (ie. with visibility at Layer 3 rather than 2), I would consider AQM mandatory to support a claim of “unbloated". Even if it’s just WRED

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the cornucopia machine is so massively open

2016-05-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 3 May, 2016, at 04:26, Dave Taht wrote: > > the onboard wifi is bcm4336 I think this implies it’s attached over SDIO, as in the R-Pi 3. It won’t be fast. But the Ethernet should be full performance, at least. That’s built into the SoC. - Jonath

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] update on that nuc I was fighting with

2016-04-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
at least) replace the mini-PCIe card supporting three of the Ethernet ports with one of your choice, and still have one GigE port. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinf

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] USB3 or HDMI ethernet? - Are wires dead?

2016-04-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
r, “wireless” operation is “simpler” and “neater”, no matter what form it takes. They hardly even notice any performance problems that come with it, or accept them as a fact of life with "newfangled technological thingamajigs”. - Jonathan Morton

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] PPP compression

2016-04-17 Thread Jonathan Morton
andwidth links where latency is a bigger contributor to Web performance and only larger transfers (which tend to already be compressed) would benefit. I suspect most PPPoE endpoints in the wild won’t accept compression negotiation. The default is almost certainly off, and you should keep it th

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the real future of the internet starts with fixing todays internet

2016-04-10 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 9 Apr, 2016, at 04:22, Dave Taht wrote: > > I will put in a comment to the eu tomorrow. Michiel's rhetoric hit me > where I live. We gotta fix what we got. > > from: https://nlnet.nl/people/leenaars/ec/ I have submitted a detailed respon

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hfsc issue

2016-03-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 31 Mar, 2016, at 07:35, Dave Taht wrote: > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109581 In essence, HFSC doesn’t seem to like it when its leaf qdiscs do anything interesting with the packets it expects to see. - Jonath

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [bufferbloat-fcc-discuss] arstechnica confirmstp-link router lockdown

2016-03-15 Thread Jonathan Morton
MD’s system, but they could be. Their APUs have a Cortex-A5 based “secure processor” which could in principle be tied into the firmware-loading process, and probably has its own secure ROM. A Cortex-M microcontroller core and ROM to do the job on a GPU would be tiny

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [bufferbloat-fcc-discuss] arstechnica confirmstp-link router lockdown

2016-03-14 Thread Jonathan Morton
ards) open for experimentation and improvement. These are compatible goals, at the fundamental level, but there is a practical problem with existing implementations which mix the layers inappropriately. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-d

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown

2016-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
t Web configuration interfaces - they are impossible to secure in the factory-fresh state. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown

2016-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
. The famous 3310 sold “only” 150 million - and I still have mine. It’s on its third battery, which lasts an entire week on standby. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown

2016-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
ly in a different place on each device, making it hard to give directions remotely. But with the wifi SSID and password visible on-screen, we wouldn’t need WPS. That’s something an ordinary router can’t do. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mail

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown

2016-03-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
is to get away from the “web interface” concept altogether, and I have an allergic reaction to “web technology” such as JavaScript (spit), that’s *not* what I’m going to do. Instead, I’ll prototype something based around an emulation of the display linke

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown

2016-03-11 Thread Jonathan Morton
ier setup. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware from hell

2016-03-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
ink. If you want to copy that, here’s the board - if you can still find it on sale - and the case: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/E45M1I_DELUXE/ http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/1058 - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-de

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware from hell

2016-03-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 4 Mar, 2016, at 04:47, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > It’s also possible to reduce the cost a bit further if that’s a factor. Here’s an alternative version that’s noticeably cheaper and gives you *three* Ethernet ports and a mini-PCIe slot. The CPU is a little weaker, that’s all

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] hardware from hell

2016-03-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
It’s not as small as a NUC, but it’s not very large either. It’s also possible to reduce the cost a bit further if that’s a factor. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] routers you can throw off the back of a truck

2016-01-21 Thread Jonathan Morton
nificantly older) on amd64. I do have a mips router and some armv6/7 units as well, but I haven’t actively been using them for testing - it shouldn’t be any harder to get it running *just* because it’s mips, though. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] routers you can throw off the back of a truck

2016-01-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 18 Jan, 2016, at 18:14, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Jonathan Morton wrote: >> I haven’t yet found a robust way to automatically sense link capacity from >> the upstream side. You’ll therefore need to set a conservative static >> value for the uplink capacity

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] routers you can throw off the back of a truck

2016-01-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
on, for me, is the ability to change "hash type" so > that ESFQ allocates bandwidth fairly per source IP rather than per connection. You might want to read the recent thread on the Cake list about “triple flow isolation”. That does everything ESFQ does

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] routers you can throw off the back of a truck

2016-01-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
latency, which should be considerably less than the estimated RTT; you really don’t want to be consistently adding 60ms of queuing on top of your 60ms inherent 3G latency. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] routers you can throw off the back of a truck

2016-01-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
tically sense link capacity from the upstream side. You’ll therefore need to set a conservative static value for the uplink capacity. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] looking for gold standard for deploying bufferbloat remediation

2015-12-18 Thread Jonathan Morton
For 25/25, a 3800 with cake will do fine. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-26 Thread Jonathan Morton
ssuming it’s working at all. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

2015-10-25 Thread Jonathan Morton
lights on technical equipment - even at the consumer level. By watching the lights, you might have noticed sooner that traffic wasn’t going the way you expected. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-24 Thread Jonathan Morton
p is correct. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Save WiFi from the FCC - DEADLINE is in 3 days *September* 8

2015-09-07 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 5 Sep, 2015, at 17:12, Rich Brown wrote: > > Please post a link to your comments when you're done. I couldn’t figure out a way to link to my comment as submitted, so I’ve attached it to this e-mail instead. - Jonathan Morton Comment re: Proposed Rulemaking on Software

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] google wifi

2015-08-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
Everyone except Apple. They're using the same "Airport Extreme Base Station" branding as my 2007 draft-n model. - Jonathan Morton ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

2015-08-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
There's a capability handshake during association, so there's no compatibility problem. Clients supporting only the single checksum won't understand multiple-checksum aggregates at all, but the transmitter will know not to send that type to them. -

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

2015-08-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
o - but hard-MAC hardware almost certainly can't be retrofitted in this way. However, since 'ac' hardware is required to support individual-checksum aggregation, a dual-band 'ac' card running on 2.4 GHz will effectively be an 'n' card wi

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