[cctalk] Re: Persci 299 drives - park heads/lock?

2023-03-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ity is that the motor has failed, you can unplug the motor and apply 12 V to it and see if it moves.  Otherwise, the full-bridge driver has gone bad.  Or, mayvbe just a bad connection where the motor plugs into the board. Jon

[cctalk] Re: mainframe vs mini

2023-03-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
it was the main computer resource on campus.  When the moved up to a 360/50, they were able to benefit from multiprogramming, and got a boost in throughput, although the 7094 was QUITE a bit faster than the 360/50. Jon

[cctalk] Found more CAMAC stuff

2023-03-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
Sorry, I've lost track of the guy who was interested in collecting CAMAC bits.  Cleaning up our lab, I found a Kinetic Systems 3922 Z1A crate controller, and a 2926 Z1A ISA slot controller for it.  Anybody interested? Thanks, Jon

[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download

2023-03-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: G'day all, I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early PDP-11/05, the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel Huh?  Mazak made machine tools.  Did you mean Zamak (zinc-based die casting alloy)? Jon

[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download

2023-03-19 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 3/18/23 15:48, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: Jon said On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: G'day all, I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early PDP-11/05, the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel Huh?  Mazak made machine tools.  Di

[cctalk] Re: One of Paul Allen's Museums

2023-04-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
tinue Paul's vision. I guess Bill doesn't like old computers.  Constant turnover of newer machines sells a LOT of MS products. Jon

[cctalk] Re: KIM-1 stuck bits from $280 to $29f

2023-05-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
you would see. Jon

[cctalk] Re: KIM-1 stuck bits from $280 to $29f

2023-05-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
orted earlier! Jon

[cctalk] Re: Paper Tape Reader Needed

2023-05-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
wever.  It is a 19" rack mount unit. Jon

Re: Cross-talk square-wave?

2017-03-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
what the circuit looks like, Well, in fact, it is impossible to make a transmission line with such impedance. The impedance of free space is supposed to be 277 Ohms, IIRC. Jon

Re: Cross-talk square-wave?

2017-03-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
n it gets a narrow pulse to low, it will switch to holding the line low. So, if you are using a Xilinx FPGA of recent vintage, or some of their CPLDs, they will do exactly this. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-03-31 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
hen position using those coordinates. So, anything that changes the reflection of the leads or causes slight misalignment would cause an alignment failure. Jon

Re: Cross-talk square-wave?

2017-03-31 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
pecifics of certain family's pad options and how to deal with them in pseudo-analog functions like crystal oscillators, switch debounce, etc. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-03-31 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ng iron. If a bridge develops, solder wick fixes it. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-04-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
an X-acto knife to find the ones that wiggle, and then touch up the soldering and test again. With a BGA or leadless package, there's no easy way to detect or fix bad soldering. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-04-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
TTLE paste for the draw the blob along trick to work. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-04-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
plenty of room to get your hands and tools under them. Generally from about 4-6". Then, it is a breeze to solder under the microscope. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-04-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ugh to fit even fairly small through holes. I've done well over 1000 boards with this system. Oh, and most of it is RoHS, too. Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-04-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
7;ve NEVER had one fall off when the top side was reflowed. The solder almost certainly goes liquid again, but the surface tension holds even this large part in place! The small passives on the back will be held by surface tension for sure! Jon

Re: Stuffing boards with pulled QFP chips

2017-04-03 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
re formed AFTER plating to all sit on a flat surface. If the leads have varying solder thickness after removal, or are bent out of the seating plane by handling, that will also affect the ability to reflow solder them reliably. Jon

Re: Micral - France

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
it, and no peripherals. But, it did work. Jon

Re: Harry Huskey, Bob Taylor -- sad news

2017-04-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
x27;s amazing. I had no idea he was still around! I hope he wrote up some memoirs or left stories. Jon

Nat Semi 32016 Genix backup floppies available

2017-04-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
to recover the files off this, I'd be glad to donate the set. It appears to be 2 boxes of floppies, 28 in total. I have some more floppies that seem to be the last half of an earlier backup, with less info on how it was written. Thanks, Jon

Re: Looking for PDP-8 G603 "Memory Selector Matrix" boards (or dec T-2052 transformers)

2017-04-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
Pulse Engineering and Rhombus Industries. I think DEC used Pulse Engineering in a lot of PDP-11 and VAX vintage stuff, so maybe they used them back in the PDP-8 days, too. Jon

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
d wiring side with a shop vac with a crevice tool. I really would not get it wet. If you do this, vacuum all the water off and then dry in an oven at 100F or so for a day. You can clean the card edge fingers with an alcohol-soaked paper towel. Jon

Re: Reviving VT220?

2017-04-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
eft on long enough). I'd check that transistor for a short, and then you can trace a few traces to identify the primary terminals on the flyback and see if they are an open circuit. Jon

Re: Oscilloscope Recommendation

2017-04-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
can't tell the trigger rate from looking at the screen, but then they can see what happened BEFORE the trigger event, and can freeze a single-shot event for you to look at. The good Tek DPO scopes have not come down enough to meet your price range (yet). Jon

Re: IBM 4331 Mainframe

2017-05-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
tronic loads. The motor loads help balance it better, but the electronic loads cause the generated leg to sag. Jon

Re: IBM 4331 Mainframe

2017-05-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
use a LOT of power to run the 1403 printer. Jon

Re: IBM 4331 Mainframe

2017-05-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/01/2017 11:53 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: Aren't these water cooled? I seem to remember hoses. No, the 43xx series are all air-cooled. The 360/85 and 370/165 and 168 and 3033 series were water-cooled. Cables the size of garden hoses, for sure, but no water. Jon

Re: Question about an SGI Fuel issue / fuel sensors ( current - temp )

2017-05-03 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
It COULD be a bad sensor, but is more likely to be a bad connection. Jon

Re: IBM 4331 Mainframe 3 phase converter

2017-05-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
the VFD/filter and the computers, so the line could be balanced around neutral, too.) Jon

Re: IBM 4331 Mainframe 3 phase converter

2017-05-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
lation. It isn't. See above. A lot of this is circulating current, so the real power draw from the mains will be less. Still, most likely over 10 real-power KW from your 240 V single-phase mains. Jon Jon

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-05-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
t the file system is. Jon

Re: HP Draftmaster RX pen plotter needs love

2017-05-09 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
y got brighter) and then a crowbar circuit tripped to shut it down. Unless you are pretty skilled, switchers can be a bit hard to troubleshoot. It might be easier to get a supply with the needed voltages and just patch it in. Jon

Re: EH Research Labs Z-80 Microprocessor Analyzer

2017-05-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
was aimed at microwave/radar labs. Jon

Re: PDP Power Usage WAS: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-22 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
Bone Black, also about 3-5 W depending on CPU load, but has a 1 GHz 32-bit RISC processor. Definitely slower than a top of the line desktop, but certainly usable. Jon

Re: OT: Mercury (Was: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-23 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
a article on Dr. Wetterhahn seems to indicate this went a lot slower than we were told in the seminar. Not sure who to trust, there. Jon

Re: OT: Mercury (Was: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
people who gave our seminar either misremembered the situation or embellished it. Still, pretty horrific situation when a highly skilled person thinks they are doing everything right, and a couple drops of something kills them. Jon

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

2017-05-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
lien URL format: https://www.flickr.com/gp/smj_crash/4bgzj2 Auugh! My wife would kill me if she knew I was looking at PORN on my computer! Jon

Re: Kryoflux or Catweasle

2017-05-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ng right within a larger system. With VHDL, you generally do NOT work at the gate level. Jon

Re: KL10 backplane on eBay

2017-05-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
th it is pretty slim). Noel Wow, what did they do with the boards??? Jon

Re: sticky copies and laser prints

2017-06-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
both sides it makes a real mess of the printed image. Jon

Re: rectangular sense core vs. diagonal

2017-06-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ndow after the X and Y select wires were in place. Jon

Re: Electronic Systems TRS-80 Serial I/O Board?

2017-06-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
he serial data was at the correct level while the UART sampled the signal, the rest could be garbage. But, how will a seriously degraded channel ALWAYS pass the signal correctly just when the UART samples it? NOT very likely. Jon

Re: Front Panels - Follow up

2017-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ng glasses with logos on them. (Now, I know those are fired onto the glass, so even more durable.) I have doubts some kind of ink that could be printed by a print head could be that durable. Jon

Re: Unknown boards

2017-06-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ne move. They had hundreds of boards, but I seem to recall single-sided yellow paper-phenolic boards. I also thought they used card-edge connectors, not Vari-Loc. I think they started making these in about 1965 or so. It has been a LONG time since I saw one of these. Jon

Re: Unknown boards

2017-06-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
mber of times. The connectors are Elco Varilok. Jon

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
t sweeping them off the board, and clean up the pads with solder wick. Takes maybe 2 minutes, and almost never damages the board. Jon

Re: ChipQuik Troubles

2017-07-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
well, and the parts generally fall off the board when all leads are done, even on multi-layer boards. The solder suckers that are used with a standard iron are FAR inferior to the units described above. Jon

Re: Datum MDP-1/MCU front panel

2017-07-08 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
complete computers! Jon

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

2017-07-10 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ng I don't know how to do right now is to open a memory window from the PRU to main ARM memory to handle larger block sizes. But, I know others have already done that. Jon

Re: Through-hole desoldering (was Re: IBM 5110 - Where does the character set live? And other questions.)

2017-07-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
uri vacuum generator that requires compressed air. These work really well. I think the handpieces are model SX-70. Jon

Re: Xerox stores

2017-07-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
r stores popping up overnight like mushrooms, and disappearing just about as fast. Jon

Re: Through-hole desoldering (was Re: IBM 5110 - Where does the character set live? And other questions.)

2017-07-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 07/13/2017 11:26 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 7/13/2017 6:52 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 07/13/2017 11:02 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 7/13/2017 12:31 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: There are also vacuum desoldering stations that use "shop air" to

Re: Xerox stores

2017-07-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 07/14/2017 11:24 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 07/14/2017 09:00 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Hmmm, I really don't remember any such thing. I suspect that some independent computer store chain got an OK to have a big Xerox logo out on the front. That would be quite belie

Re: Depressing article

2017-07-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
said "Oh, it needs floating point, it is too hard to recode our program!" So, 50K down the drain! Geez! Jon

Re: Xerox stores

2017-07-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
check it out. I thought that had closed a LONG time ago, but maybe they have started it back up. The original poster (Jon) had quite a nice pile as did I as well, but those were days with a lot more nice stuff than now. (70s) Yeah, it is QUITE a pile, for sure. Still have my uVAX-II, although

Re: Xerox stores

2017-07-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
. AFAIK the nearest is OEM Parts in Colorado Springs. Maybe there's something in Fort Collins. Yup, sad, and these places were a big help to kids who were interested in technology. Of course, with eBay, if you are really interested in this stuff, you can still get your hands on things. Jon

Re: HP 12653A line printer interface

2017-07-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
r the paper size. Jon

Re: New Items For Sale: Check the List and Make an Offer or Request

2017-07-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
machine might be useful to somebody wanting to read 7-track tapes. I got a Pertec key to tape machine many years ago, and extracted the tape drive section and turned it into a tape drive for my Z-80 CP/M system. It helped immensely that the Pertec came with complete schematics. Jon

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
re not too different than that. Jon

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
sed as a key to tape system. Jon

Re: Scsi tape and compatible tapes that are available

2017-07-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ansfer drives, so ran the HECK out of them at work (tape loaded and moving something like 100 hours a week.) Jon

Re: DECstation 220 Impasse Reached

2017-07-28 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
;t be said to be CLEARLY wrong. It does look a bit odd, however. Jon

Re: 1/2 tape in Bell ESS5

2017-07-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
comm format from the ESS computer. The data rate was not real high. But, there may have been other tape drives for other purposes (firmware, diagnostics, etc.) Jon

Re: Cleaning a board slightly oxydized ??

2017-07-31 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 07/31/2017 03:13 AM, Alexandre Souza via cctalk wrote: AFAIK, common household and vinegar and citric acid are the same thing. Can you elaborate, please? O_O Vinegar is Acetic acid, Citric acid is Citric acid, a different chemical compound. Jon

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
lights should glow very dimly. DEC put a resistor across the transistor to put a slight warming current through the bulb. This reduces shock to the filament every time it is turned on. (This info is from other DEC machines, not PDP-8, but I'm pretty sure they would do the same there.) Jon

Re: pdp-8/e restoration the next step.

2017-08-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
then it could be a configuration issue (the plugged-in memory module is not set at address zero, for instance) . But, eventually, you would have to trace it through the prints. Fortunately, the PDP-8 is not a terribly complex CPU. Jon

Re: PDP-8s that was EBAY.. what is the other rack? Thought TTY inf in main box?

2017-08-08 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
drum memory! Jon

Re: RX01 and RL01 on same UNIBUS system

2017-08-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
some boot ROMs might not set this up right, but you can always toggle in a boot program that handles it. Jon

Re: This Is Such An Exciting Listing!

2017-08-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
capacitors that looked like they came from the 1950's or 60's. Black tubular with color code stripes, and leads about 1/4" long. Jon

Re: DCC-116 E / DATA GENERAL NOVA 2/10 / Nixdorf 620 - Restoring and restarting

2017-08-19 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
every 5 years or so. The fix was to clean the fuse clip with the finest sandpaper available and put in a new fuse (even if you caught it before the fuse blew.) Jon

Re: This Is Such An Exciting Listing!

2017-08-19 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
x27;m selling, just to try and keep other people from buying it. If you have a PayPal account, you can just have them send the required amount that way. You can even have PayPal generate an invoice to them. Jon

Re: Champaign, IL to Iowa City, Iowa and back trip

2017-08-19 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
97190?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D9253420ebdf64d829d68079589c3d04a%26pid%3D19%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D152665094101&_trksid=p2047675.c19.m1982 That must be a LAB-8, seriously cool! Currently $676, but I suspect will go higher. Jon

Re: DCC-116 E / DATA GENERAL NOVA 2/10 / Nixdorf 620 - Restoring and restarting

2017-08-19 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 08/19/2017 11:29 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: > Leaky Crowbar SCR? > Never heard of such a thing. SCRs are usually all the way on, or all the way off. Why would it be sensitive to load on the power supply? Jon

Re: Why women were the first computer programmers

2017-08-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
the stupidest thing I've read today. Yeah, my advice to Rod is "don't show your wife what you wrote!" And, especially, don't show it to your DAUGHTER! Jon

Re: Semi-OT: NEC Electra-616 KSU phone system

2017-09-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
in Alabama for now. Thanks, Kyle I have a working NEC Electra 16/32 at work, and the Electra 8/16 at home died last year and I replaced it with and Asterisk system. I also inquired, and couldn't find anyone that wanted spares. I suspect we may have the LAST working NEC Electra. Jon

Re: QDSS qbus VCB02 8-plane video

2017-09-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
re no card fingers on the CD card edges, that would be a good sign it would be QCD only. If it has ONLY the grant jumpers there, then it can work on a normal Q bus slot. Jon

Re: HP 7970B Capstan?

2017-09-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
stan. This TOTALLY removed the slipping problem until the latex wore out. Jon

Re: HP 7970B Capstan?

2017-09-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
plies mostly to 800 BPI NRZI. PE and GCR are far less critical on this. Jon

Re: HP 7970B Capstan?

2017-09-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
drive that is known to be in good calibration (both speed and skew) is very helpful in standardizing drives. Jon

Re: HP 7970B Capstan?

2017-09-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
, any skew error would be doubled, This would be pretty annoying, you'd have to write, turn around, check, adjust and then repeat with the write step. Jon

Re: HP 7970B Capstan?

2017-09-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
track" are, in fact, 7 track. Kyread doesn't lie. Argh. Time to try out the 7 track stack that Al sent me. Ah, well, I can see why a 7 track tape won't read well on a 9-track drive! Jon

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 01:52 PM, shad via cctalk wrote: leaded solder = AgPb alloy Uh, no, that would be Silver-Lead. Regular old solder was SnPb, that is Tin-Lead. Jon

Re: DEC H9xx rack parts needed

2017-09-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ace to get down to final length). -ethan There's also LinuxCNC for machine control. ( linuxcnc.org ) Jon

Re: Apple ][ PS

2017-09-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
20+ years ago, complete aftermarket power supply replacements for Apple ][ were still available from Jameco and other suppliers. Maybe $40 ballpark. Is that an MPS-40? I have an original Plus&Plus power supply that I'm pretty sure was from an Apple ][ of some model. Jon

cctalk@classiccmp.org

2017-09-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
ater ones were CNC. Jon

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-28 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
, explains why writes are slower than reads even on spinning disks. Of course, if you write entire tracks, it can just hold the partial data until it has all the data for that track, and write out the buffer in one rotation. Jon

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
d you will not be able to disassemble them. Jon

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
g about original AT's here, but mid-90's 386 and 486 systems. I can only imagine a real AT would be even less likely to handle a drive over about 40 MB. Jon

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
work.) I have some CDC Keystone (92185) drives. Jon

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/29/2017 01:35 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 09/29/2017 09:00 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 9/29/17 8:48 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: I did a few of these on a lathe years ago. It was a couple minutes job per reel. you are also going to have to cut holes near the hub

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
kew adjust screws on the head mount to make it as straight as possible. Jon

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
much smaller wire to get the signal back up to what the read amps need. Jon

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/30/2017 10:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 09/30/2017 06:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Ahh, but the genius is built into the heads! Note that nobody recorded 800 BPI on 7-track tapes. I think they supported 200 and 556 BPI, only. There were some low-density 9-track tapes, but

Re: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE [WAS:RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC]

2017-10-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
the Diablo cartridge drive and larger ones that were essentially plug-compatible IBM 2314-type drives were available in the early 1970's. These had very little electronics in the drive. A little bit of head seek logic and read and write amps, that was about it. Jon

Re: DECstation 5000/133 power supplies dead (H7826)

2017-10-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
art-up circuit involves a high-resistance resistor and a small, low-voltage cap (16 - 25 V rating). If either of those fails, the switcher will never start up. Jon

Re: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE [WAS:RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC]

2017-10-02 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
difference between early IDE and SCSI drives. Several hundred $ for a similar capacity drive. Jon

Re: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE [WAS:RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC]

2017-10-02 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
gnals are pretty close to the signal names on the tag cable for a selector channel. I bought a Memorex 10 MB drive and SASI adaptor on an introductory deal in a magazine. This was in about 1980-1982. I had it on my Z-80 CP/M system. Jon

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