Re: Unknown 8085 opcodes

2017-01-11 Thread Fred Cisin
Looks more like data, than code. Telephone Details.Select On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Adrian Graham wrote: By the same reasoning 0xD9 could be XRL A,R1 (opcode 11011xxx) and 0xDD could be XRL A,R5 but can't match the others. Also the surrounding code doesn't mention those registers. Exampl

Re: Unknown 8085 opcodes

2017-01-11 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Adrian Graham wrote: Well, this is ROM dumps of a telephone system so that would make sense for some of it, but surely a disassembler should also recognise that it's ASCII string data and treat it accordingly? I can imagine a freeware disassembler maybe making that mistake bu

Re: Unknown 8085 opcodes

2017-01-11 Thread Fred Cisin
Quite realistic would be for a disassembler that couldn't recognize an opcode to display it as DB 1A ; Esc DB 65 ; 'e' DB 09 Code immediately following an unconditional JMP is likely to be data, but could just as easily be the destination of some other JMP, so a disassemble can't make assumpti

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-12 Thread Fred Cisin
Opposite end of the size scale: Epson RC-20 wristwatch with Z80 equivalent, RAM, ROM, serial port katakana - not exported to USA

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-12 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Cory Heisterkamp wrote: Given the topic, I have this rather *unique* punch card reader, if you want to call it that. It is marked EAI but that's where the trail turns cold. Perhaps used as a microcode source? All holes are read simultaneously via individual switches. If someo

Re: Unknown 8085 opcodes

2017-01-12 Thread Fred Cisin
jsr puts fcc 'Hello, world!',13,0 clra or the classic: JMP START1 DATA2: DB . . . DB . . . START1: MOV DX, OFFSET DATA2 Which was heavily used because MOV DX, OFFSET DATA3 . . . DATA3: DB . . . would

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

2017-01-12 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Ethan Dicks wrote: I'm sure there are people who are offended and/or horrified by the question. The number of responses (or lack thereof) will likely indicate the size of that pool. My upper limit has been at $800 surprisingly often. After I purchased the "Technical Refer

Re: Unknown 8085 opcodes

2017-01-12 Thread Fred Cisin
Not all strings are null-terminated. In CP/M, and MS-DOS INT21h Fn9, the terminating character is '$' ! "If you are ever choosing a termination marker, choose something that could NEVER occur in normal data!" Also, strings may, instead of a terminating character, be specified with a length, or wi

Re: EWD37

2017-01-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote: Given all of that, the 1620 did perform lots of useful work. Later versions of the machine after the CADET added functionality, but AFAIK, never addressed the problem of the inability to read the P-counter from a program. half a century ago, there was a

Re: Microscope for Soldering and Inspection Work

2017-01-14 Thread Fred Cisin
check look at this listing they mention 38 mm? _http://www.ebay.com/itm/BAUSCH-amp-LOMB-STEREO-ZOOM-MICROSCOPE-38mm-RING-LI On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote: Looks to be 38mm indeed. Rather than burn $40 on a protective filter, I'll probably just buy one of the Chinese coated "peel and

Re: Origins of the term 'WYSIWYG?

2017-01-16 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Al Kossow wrote: In mid-1975, John W. Seybold, the founder of Seybold Publications, and researchers at PARC, incorporated Gypsy software into Bravo to create Bravo 3, which allowed text to be printed as displayed. Charles Simonyi and the other engineers appropriated Flip

Re: Origins of the term 'WYSIWYG?

2017-01-16 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Tony Duell wrote: My point is that a very similar phrase ('What you see, you get') was used by a camera manufactuer some 15 years earlier (at least). Can you find any of the ads for earlier SLRs? Exakta dates from late 1930's, but there were almost certainly a few more obs

Re: Origins of the term 'WYSIWYG?

2017-01-16 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, allison wrote: That lead to WYSIWYG pronounced as wizzywhig, from the former what you see is what you get. There were variations as well. Good point! The phrase is obviously older, and probably much older than Flip Wilson. BUT, the acronym is much more recent. I first

Re: Macintosh Plus: 31 years old this coming Monday

2017-01-16 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Tapley, Mark wrote: Back when they were new, a friend of mine brought his out of his car, set up, and worked for about 1/2 hour before realizing he’d left the keyboard in the car. Don’t know how fun an experience you’d have, particularly if you are not as absent-minded as

Re: Macintosh Plus: 31 years old this coming Monday

2017-01-16 Thread Fred Cisin
According to IMDB, the Mac Plus that Scotty addressed by speaking into the mouse in "Star Trek : The Voyage Home", "The computer that Scotty uses to show transparent aluminum was originally going to be an Amiga, but Commodore would only provide a computer if they bought it. Apple Computers was w

Re: ISO: Honeywell DPS-6 things

2017-01-21 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, shad wrote: Hello, I'm remembering of an old post on vcfed, somebody found in the dump a lot of tapes and floppies related to DPS6. IIRC Al Kossow contacted the man to have the dump of the disks... Maybe he has something? In computers, "dump" isn't s'posed to mean land

Re: Attempt at Compaq keybord swap with a PC keyboard (failed)

2017-01-22 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017, Randy Dawson wrote: I have luggable with the famous Keytronics foam kepad rot. WHAT model Compaq? 8088? 80286?

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Eric Smith wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: "Transactions of Society of Actuaries" 1959, Volume 11, Number 31 On a system like that, how much time could elapse between, "We (customer) are switching to..."? decision planning negotiating contrac

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Fred Cisin
Even the phrase "shipped" need not be when the customer starts printing out the nine billion names of god. (1953, so it predates the 7074) OK, that was a "Mark V, Automatic Sequence Computer". In the story, Chuck (no last name, so not confirmed to be OUR Chuck), had the last word: "Look" ht

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Fred Cisin
In the story, Chuck (no last name, so not confirmed to be OUR Chuck), had the last word: "Look" http://downlode.org/Etext/nine_billion_names_of_god.html On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote: I remember reading that one many years ago. The bit about the stars quietly winking out at the end st

Re: I finall flashed my XTIDE rev 1, now what?

2017-01-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, Randy Dawson wrote: I have a Compact Flash adapter and card, while I wait for the soldering iron to heat up and make the power cable for it, I wanted to ask, what are the next steps? FORMAT, or FDISK /MBR? It is not clear what you are attempting to do. If you have a driv

Re: I finall flashed my XTIDE rev 1, now what?

2017-01-27 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, Alexandre Souza wrote: Simple way I got several XT-IDE working: - Boot with freedos boot disk - FDISK /MBR - FDISK and create ONE 31MB partition (note it is 31MB and not 32MB) It SHOULD be possible to create an almost 2GB partition with DOS 3.31 or above. Has to be "almos

Re: Need manual for a floppy drive...

2017-01-29 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017, geneb wrote: I've got a Panasonic JU-455-5 AAG (5.25, 360K) that I'd like to use in a Can't help with those manuals. Gave them away long ago. But, be aware that that same drive was also sold as the Shugart 455, Matsushita 455, and National? The Shugart printing of the ma

Re: Pac-Man

2017-01-30 Thread Fred Cisin
A sad day: The father of Pac-Man, Masaya Nakamura, passed away. I remember playing this on very early microcomputers. On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: How about some credit where credit is due, and not rewriting history willynilly. Toru Iwatani was the designer (not Nakamura) of

OT: RANT (Was: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin
If you think that, you _really_ need to read 3676. Nobody's going to read that the way that it is formatted. If they expect people to read it, they will have to punch it up, with fonts, colors, background images and textures, formats, animated emojis, audio accompaniment, and embedded videos

Re: OT: RANT (Was: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-02-02 Thread Fred Cisin
information, end of support for XP, involuntary Win7 to Win10 upgrade, etc. I intended it to be absurd enough to provide some humor. It apparently failed at that. Sorry. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: If you think that, you _really_ need to read 3676. Nobody&#

Re: OT: RANT (Was: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-02-02 Thread Fred Cisin
I intended it to be absurd enough to provide some humor. It apparently failed at that. Sorry. On Thu, 2 Feb 2017, Ian S. King wrote: Fred, you have to turn it up to 11 - after all, consider your competition these days in the domain of absurdity. It wouldn't be so bad, if people just said tha

Re: Logic Analysers

2017-02-03 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 3 Feb 2017, Eric Smith wrote: Hmmm... I think I'll make a box that you plug into a computer and it tells you 'U5 is faulty'. It won't be magic, though... :-) Other than plugging in to the computer (USB?), the rest of it could probably be done in software. What would the "System Requ

Re: LMI Lambda?

2017-02-09 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Warner Losh wrote: Speaking in absolutes in the IP field is often unwise. Only: "Don't mess with the mouse." In addition to occasional changes in the laws and in their interpretation, there is always the issue, as mentioned in one of the early posts, that annoying the dr

Re: LMI Lambda?

2017-02-09 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Liam Proven wrote: "Here's the code. To use it, you'll need ROM images and images of software. These are not provided and won't be, so don't ask. Get your own and it is your problem to ensure that you are legal." Is there a QUALITATIVE difference between FREE distribution an

Re: LMI Lambda?

2017-02-10 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: I think also that whatever your decision is, that people should simply respect that. Better be safe than sorry after all. Absolutely! Whether or not WE think that there is a danger is not the point. And, whether we think that the LAW would rule fav

Re: LMI Lambda?

2017-02-10 Thread Fred Cisin
I'd love to see more info on when one was successfully enforced on an end-user. On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: Wikipedia is a good start. ProCD, Inc. v. Zeidenberg On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, geneb wrote: Interesting read, thanks. That case upheld the click-through/shrinkwrap adhe

Re: LMI Lambda?

2017-02-11 Thread Fred Cisin
I assume that the shutdown of Slysoft (ANYDVD) was facilitated by DMCA. On Sat, 11 Feb 2017, Eric Smith wrote: I don't know, but I rather doubt it. The MPAA and/or studios would have publicized a victory against Slysoft. That would make sense. At least as far as I understand it, and would s

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

2017-02-13 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, W2HX wrote: Thanks for doing this project and I have signed up! Curious why mini usb and why the exclamation points regarding "NOT micro?" Micro is so common. I have tons of usb-micro cables for all my devices. I don’t think I've seen a device made in the last several years

Re: need (physical) key for Sun SPARCserver 1000e

2017-02-14 Thread Fred Cisin
Maybe someone with a key and a set of callipers can match up a blank at Home Depot and measure it up :P NO. Try a LOCKSMITH. Home Depot does not have a selection of keys. They have some car keys, some padlock keys (that MIGHT match), and TWO house keys (Schlage SC1 and Kwikset KW1, although t

Re: need (physical) key for Sun SPARCserver 1000e

2017-02-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Jerry Kemp wrote: Hello Fred, Thank you for the post. This is really a chicken vs egg issue here. Apparently, no one right now has a copy of this key. No one seems to even have a picture of the key. There have been a couple of pictures + eBay sales shared that show, what I w

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

2017-02-14 Thread Fred Cisin
This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would you expect to find on that? On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Chris Elmquist wrote: A Centronics-style 36-pin Amphenol. oh, sorry. ("blue-ribbon") A DB25 Howzbout a DE-9

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

2017-02-14 Thread Fred Cisin
Personally, i don't care about lead free solder. I am quite happy with lead. Is there a rohs requirement for small production, non profit, prototyping project? On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Tony Duell wrote: Personally I _do_ care about lead free solder. I won't have it. The fact that part of this board

Re: need (physical) key for Sun SPARCserver 1000e

2017-02-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, geneb wrote: Worse case, just take the lock switch out of the chassis and find a local locksmith that'll make you a key. It's a pretty common thing for them. A properly designed lock can not be removed with the case closed. A properly designed case can not be opened with t

Re: Yale renames Calhoun College for Grace Hopper

2017-02-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Ken Seefried wrote: I'd be fascinated at a justification for this opinion that squared with "John C. Calhoun’s legacy as a white supremacist and a national leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ‘positive good’". And, once he graduated from Yale in 1804, he turned hi

Re: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT! - was Re: Yale renames Calhoun College for Grace Hopper

2017-02-15 Thread Fred Cisin
Besides, Kaczynski was Harvard, not Yale.

Re: Harris VOS question

2017-02-18 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 18 Feb 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote: I'm looking at what I suspect is a labeled Harris VOS (Vulcan) tape. Is it the case that the Harris minis are incapable of writing tape records that aren't a multiple of 3 bytes in length? The reason I ask is that the VOL HDR, etc. records all seem to be 8

Re: story of Mel

2017-02-23 Thread Fred Cisin
I love the wisdom of Allison's remark, that what some of us still see as "recent current events" is "ancient history" for the youngsters.

Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of these... https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/ I have a RAMAC platter. (24" diameter; arguably FIRST hard disk, from 1958?; when they wouldn't let Nikita K

Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of these... https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/ On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: I just love that table Although the ad says "1.44 megabytes", it is a 720K. The write enable notch is not o

Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
What's the going price for a Cray round sofa/bench?

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Partitions may have appeared in DOS/Windows for much the same reason; with 32 KB clusters, FAT16 filesystems were limited to 2GB. I distinctly recall having to use partitions when I bought a 13GB hard drive for my Windows 95 machine (FAT32 only

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I think the same type of problem happened with the really old FAT-12 to FAT-16 conversion. Wasn't FAT-12 limited to something near 31 MB? 32 MebiBytes - 1

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I think the same type of problem happened with the really old FAT-12 to FAT-16 conversion. Wasn't FAT-12 limited to something near 31 MB? On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: 32 MebiBytes - 1 On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, geneb

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
ences I see are: (1) layering: the partition is below the file system. (2) partitions are originally entirely static (set at creation and never changed) and even later on changed only rarely and typically with substantial technical difficulty. paul -- Fred Cisin

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-02-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Feb 2022, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: FAT's *file* size limitation is indeed due to a 32 bit field. The ISO 9660 standard offers an "interesting" solution to that, namely having multiple directory entries for the same filename. So if you want to store files larger than 4GiB on a CD-

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-02-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Many/most? early drives were CAV (Constant Angeular Velocity) with the same amount of data on each track. Therefore, the data transfer rate, once on the right track, was the same. BUT, the bits were physically closer to each other on the inner (higher numbered) tracks, and the error rate was s

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-02-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Covering more distance in the same time means increased speed to me! On Tue, 1 Feb 2022, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Clearly, on a disk, the outer tracks ARE moving faster, in terms of linear velocity. If the data is written at a constant data transfer rate, and the motion of the disk is the

Re: Installing an operating system on an 11/83

2022-02-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I think installing 30 floppy disks would be an exercise in insanity: No arguments there. That would probably wear down an RX50 drive to the nubbins. Are RX50 drives less robust than what was used to install Windoze 95?

Re: Installing an operating system on the 11/83 - update.

2022-02-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
DD 5.25" disks are about 300 Oersted. HD 5.25" disks are about 600 Oersted. If you use HD disks to write DD content, the data fades away real fast. However, on 3.5" disks, the difference is more like 600 Oersted VS 750 Oersted, and you may get away with using the wrong disk. 360K disks are te

Re: Installing an operating system on the 11/83 - update.

2022-02-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
From the FDC point of view, which doesn't have optical view of the drive and media, the 80 track DD 5.25" looks similar to a "720K 3.5" drive. (80 tracks, 9 sectors per track, 300 RPM, 250K data transgfer rate) On SOME PCs, setting the CMOS floppy setting to "720K" may take care of it. On Tu

Re: Installing an operating system on the 11/83 - update.

2022-02-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
A little over 40 years ago, while we were still using TRS80's at the college, the purchasing agent was sleeping with a vendor, and got us RoyType HD diskettes, instead of what we asked for (Verbatim Datalife). When used in the TRS80s, it would format and write without showing errors, but minutes

Re: Installing an operating system on the 11/83 - update.

2022-02-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Hmmm.. I wonder if I could do any of this with my OS9 system running on a Tandy COCO? Lot's of ability to fudge with disk formats and you can't find a controller much older. :-) Makes me wonder about the other old TRS80's. All handle 5.25

Re: Installing an operating system on the 11/83 - update.

2022-02-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
-trakcess-1.95.pdf Harv Pennington's first book (before he got carried away) was "TRS80 Disk And Other Mysteries". Later on, he even got involved in marketing a port of Michael Shrayer's "Electric Pencil" to PC! On Tue, 22 Feb 2022, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

Re: 11/83 operating system load update -2

2022-02-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
To test the false "Write-protect" error, try: Put a BLANK floppy in the drive, and ask Windoze to FORMAT it. For simplicity, choose the "360K" or "720K" format. See what if any errors that generates. If no errors (or certain specific other ones), then we can assume that the problem is not with t

Re: Racking a PDP-11/24

2022-02-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I am not in the USA, but I am should be able to look for other screwdrivers here in the UK. I already have one quite big one, but I think it is still way too small for this purpose. How big is it? For ridiculously large flat-blade screws, look at "drag link socket"s. For just getting extreme a

Re: Looking for computer and individual to read old floppy disks

2022-03-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022, Terry Cox-Joseph via cctalk wrote: Dear Classic Computers Members,I am looking for someone who had an operating floppy disk drive that can read old 5-1/4" floppy disks from the 1980s.I may also need someone to read hard, 3" floppies. The disks can be mailed and the info can

Re: Looking for computer and individual to read old floppy disks

2022-03-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I could do it, but I'm a little squeezed for time and energy right now. Spending my mornings under the LINAC. Yikes! The word "under" means that you are not doing atomic physics experiments. Very sorry to hear it. I got more details from the

Re: Looking for computer and individual to read old floppy disks

2022-03-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I got more details from the guy with the disks.  They are apparently "360K" PC floppies with XYWRITE files, and he wants to load the file contents into a "modern"? word processor.  So hopefully, somebody can help him, with a simple COPY *.*, and I think that he now understands that he might als

Re: Looking for computer and individual to read old floppy disks

2022-03-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
tands that he might also need to get back a copy of XYWRITE to turn the file content into something usable. It was mentioned that he would pay someone to do this. Why not just tell him to buy a $20 USB Floppy from Amazon and copy them himself? On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 7:25 PM Fred Cisin via

Re: Looking for computer and individual to read old floppy disks

2022-03-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
There are no 5.25" USB floppies. Well, not 100% true (there are values in the identifier strings that tell you it's a 1.2MB floppy vs a 1.44MB floppy), but as a practical matter, you can't find them. I've looked and gave up... That's how I wound up with my kyroflux + TEAC drive (though a greasewea

Re: Found! Ge 115 computer brochure

2022-03-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: A person that had this ge computer would know.   Anyway this listserv still rejects images still ? Sent from the all new AOL app for Android Yes. They screw up the teletype.

Re: Found! Ge 115 computer brochure

2022-03-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
If you can switch to a non-proportional font (not easy with AOHell), you can make "ASCII Art". It's not just for soft-core porn. On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: A person that had this ge computer would know.   Anyway this listserv still rejects images still ? Sent from th

Text art (Was: Found! Ge 115 computer brochure

2022-03-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
more like this: (Who needs VGA, if you have a non-proportional font?) (Text art, with a proportional font, is psychedelic) __ |--|--| __ __ __ | ___ | () | | 64X4 | 64X4 | || | | | |

RE: Found! Ge 115 computer brochure

2022-03-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, W2HX wrote: Here is some Baudot Art. Hot off the model 28 On Tue, 15 Mar 2022, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: Where is "here"? Christian He had a 2.5M attachment of a photograph of the 28 printing it

RE: Found! Ge 115 computer brochure

2022-03-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Mar 2022, W2HX wrote: Btw I have since resent the message with a link to the .jpg but I don't think it has come through. I suspect both images and links may be verboten on this list. Ironic considering the advanced technical proclivities of the membership! 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to

Re: Commodore vic 20 poweroff

2022-03-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, Diedrich, Bryce via cctech wrote: Just got a Commodore Vic-20. What is the safest way to power it off when I am done using it? On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, geneb via cctech wrote: Turn it off. Then disconnect the power cord from the wall. Clean the machine Place it in a sealed c

Re: Commodore vic 20 poweroff

2022-03-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, Diedrich, Bryce via cctech wrote: Just got a Commodore Vic-20. What is the safest way to power it off when I am done using it? On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: If you really ARE done using it, you can mail it to me :-) And, THAT is the right answer.

Re: Commodore vic 20 poweroff

2022-03-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
It is true that on any computers with disk drives, you should wait until the disk writing activity is completely done before shutting the machine off. In some cases, that is not just waiting for the drive light to stop flashing, but also waiting for any "delayed writes" that the operating syst

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
to front panel keys. However, nothing is emitted onto 232. The D25 - D-9 transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites. I don't know anything about that specific setup, nor anaything aabout your personal expertise. When

Re: TRS-80 Question

2022-04-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
There's a 2K hole in the Model I memory map above the ROM On Tue, 12 Apr 2022, Yeechang Lee via cctech wrote: Is this the hole that causes stock Model I to not run CP/M? NO. The problem with CP/M on TRS80 is that CP/M expects RAM from location 0 on up. Location 0 - FFh are used as a data stru

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022, shad via cctech wrote: The main board should include a large enough array of bidirectional transceivers, possibly with variable voltage, to support as much interfaces as possible, namely at least Shugart floppy, ST506 MFM/RLL, ESDI, SMD, IDE, SCSI1, DEC DSSI, DEC RX01/0

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
. . . and, if there is agreement to standardize the connection system for the "personality modules", then some of the other storage systems could be implemented, particularly including some of the tape systemmes. 'course, it would be a lot more fun, instead of the 62 pin card edge, to go wit

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
/02, DG6030, and so on, to give a starting point. On Apr 13, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Fred Cisin via cctech wrote: Hmmm. rather than re-inventing the wheel, as we usually do, . . . . . . It says "IBM", "5160" on the back panel label, although there were plenty of generic second s

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022, Paul Koning wrote: Indeed. Though even that is hard for the more exotic formats, if original controllers are unavailable. How would you read, for example, an IBM 1620 or CDC 6600 disk pack, given that the machine is hard to find and those that exists may not have the righ

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-14 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
It certainly seems that it would be THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE, with an extreme budget, to build a high resolution device similar to the 3M Magnetic Tape viewer, . . . https://blog.adafruit.com/2020/03/01/the-magnetic-tape-viewer-see-the-sound-on-a-tape/ On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, John Foust via cctalk

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-14 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, John Foust via cctalk wrote: Magnetic visualizers also discussed here: http://qicreader.blogspot.com/p/track-visualization.html Thank you. That is what I was looking for. It doesn't imply current existence of anything already coupled with a digital camera, nor particularl

RE: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: This was the approach IBM used in it's first RAMAC RAID where I think they had to buffer a whole cylinder but that was many generations ago (my copy of the specs may not be exact): Buffering a whole cylinder, or a whole surface, of the RAMAC wa

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Once the chip is out, for cleaning out the holes, I used a spring loaded solder sucker on one side of the board, with soldering iron on the other side. also, solder wick sometimes a wooden toothpick in extreme cases, a small drill bit turned by hand in a pin vise (NOT chucked up in a powered 1/

Re: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
This was the approach IBM used in it's first RAMAC RAID where I think they had to buffer a whole cylinder but that was many generations ago (my copy of the specs may not be exact): Buffering a whole cylinder, or a whole surface, of the RAMAC was no big deal. One hundred surfaces (52 platters,

RE: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
ONCE MORE, I APOLOGIZE. (details bottom posted) This was the approach IBM used in it's first RAMAC RAID where I think they had to buffer a whole cylinder but that was many generations ago (my copy of the specs may not be exact): Buffering a whole cylinder, or a whole surface, of the RAMAC was n

Re: TRS-80 Question

2022-04-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
There's a 2K hole in the Model I memory map above the ROM Is this the hole that causes stock Model I to not run CP/M? NO. The problem with CP/M on TRS80 is that CP/M expects RAM from location 0 on up. On Tue, 19 Apr 2022, Charles Dickman wrote: When I was a freshman at Purdue, I lugged my M

RE: idea for a universal disk interface

2022-04-20 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 20 Apr 2022, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: Likewise, I don't know it for certain, but I am pretty sure that it is true that virtually all controllers switch heads sequentially when transferring blocks beyond the end of the track, Are you implying that data/file that is more than one tr

Intel VS Motorola (Was: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Intel has never understood interrupts or good cpu architecture. Look at the segment:offset architecture of the 8086 and of course it's single interrupt (without the separate interrupt controller chip) vs the 68000 somewhat orthogonal 32 bit archi

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: Were there ever any floppy controllers for the (parallel) PCI bus? I Googled a bunch and haven't found any. I am trying to outfit a computer for the long haul that can run a bunch of older software in virtual machines and do things like dupli

Re: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150)

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Works fine. Good Condition. On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Lee Courtney via cctalk wrote: Doesn't say whether it includes power cord or not? 😸 Wouldn't matter. There aren't any Windows 10 drivers for its PCI card.

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote: You can of course build a PCI FDD interface around the NEC uPD765 or an equivalent controller, but you can't make it compatible with existing PC software, because too much PC specifics has been embedded there around the 8237 DMA controller

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: As another person with a desire to be able to read/write/create disks of different sizes and formats I have found this interesting. So the question, then How hard would it be to make a floppy disk interface using an Arduino or even Rasber

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Isn't that what Greaseweasel  and similar do? I have a kyroflux that I use to read floppies on my macbook. It can write as well and understands a ton of formats. Greaseweasel is more available and supported (I got my kyroflux before things went south, so wouldn't recommend others get one these d

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Your right about all the available options. Somewhere around here I have a couple of P112 SBC's. I wonder what the floppy controller in that can do? I am pretty sure it claimed compatibility with CP/M 8" disks. If so it can probably handl

Re: P112 Floppy Controller

2022-04-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022, Craig Ruff via cctech wrote: The P112's floppy controller is the one in the SMSC FDC37C665IR SuperIO chip. The data sheet states it is a 2.88 MB "Licensed CMOS 765B Floppy Disk Controller" and claims 100% IBM compatibility (for what that's worth). 2.8M (it is not "2.88" u

Re: Slashed letter O, unslashed letter zero

2022-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I recall getting a job back from keypunch with a note attached: "I wasn't sure if you meant zero or oh (I always slashed my zeroes; the keypunch form specifically called that out), so I did some of both". Card deck into trash; go find a keypunch

Re: Slashed letter O, unslashed letter zero

2022-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022, Chuck Guzis wrote: Whole operating systems got written at night, I suspect. I suspect that Windoze was written during business hours.

Re: Slashed letter O, unslashed letter zero

2022-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022, Gavin Scott wrote: Forgive me, but is this not why we had a place on the coding forms explicitly for this purpose, as seen in: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/FortranCodingForm.png where "Punching Instructions" consisted of example pairs of a writer's hand

Re: Slashed letter O, unslashed letter zero

2022-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I remember about 30 years ago, a registration card for a Microsoft product had specific forms that they wanted for certain letters, for the sake of a slightly inadequate handwriting recognition program. Among those was "ticked letter O". A round 'O", with an extra mark on the upper right. Lik

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