Later Data General (D214/AViiON) keyboards?

No, I'm not looking for old Dasher keyboards because "omg Severance." I have a couple of Data General terminals (D214) and a couple of Data General UNIX workstations (AViiON, using m88k CPU) and only one keyboard. The one that uses an 8-pin DIN connector similar to the 5-pin IBM PC XT keyboard

[cctalk] Re: DECnet to be dropped from Linux

It just sounds to me like the implementation should move to userspace. Why does it need to be in the kernel? -- Chris

[cctalk] Bubbl-Tec bubble memory (QBus)

I just acquired the several Bubbl-Tec bubble memory boards for QBus, and was wondering if anyone had manuals or more information than the couple of web pages I've found with high-level descriptions: MBC-11A bubble memory controller MBB-11A bubble memory board for use with MBC-11A QBI-11C bubble

[cctalk] Re: 50 Years of the HP 3000

On Nov 1, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Mark Moulding via cctalk wrote: > > I'd like to see $2000, but will cheerfully entertain offers (cheerfully if > they're reasonable, or met with hysterical laughter if not). You may need to adjust your expectations on that front. Even with pandemic-related inflat

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

On Oct 31, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > Tour guides and front desk personnel were immediately let go, because it was > clear that it would be several months, up to a year, before we could open > again. Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook etc. were willing to pay all of

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

On Oct 31, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > Thank you Rich for shedding light on this. Most of it makes sense to me, > but the secrecy part where you weren't allowed to talk to those still at > the museum is weird. I can't see any possible commercial reason for > preventing fo

[cctalk] Re: Data General Nova and Eclipse Hobbyist License...

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:12 PM, Bruce Ray via cctalk wrote: > It is not a sublicense, Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc., now has copyright > and title to the legacy DG/EMC software. That's awesome news, congratulations! -- Chris

[cctalk] Re: PT-68K

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:47 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > >> On 12/27/2022 9:36 PM CST Chris via cctalk wrote: >> >> Those are for a different board. Maybe close enough? > > If you read the description it says the only difference is the clock chip, > which I believe is "fully" compatible.

[cctalk] Re: Knockoffs, was: Low cost logic analyzer

On Mar 14, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/14/2023 4:16 PM, Jonathan Chapman wrote: >> There are other things that we've chosen not to run for the same basic >> reason, and others that won't get open sourced. > > I will admit I am trending in that direction. I put thing

[cctalk] NCD-17c and NCD-19 X terminal cap lists?

Does anyone have a list of replacement capacitors to use for NCD X terminals, specifically the 17c and 19? A couple searches online don't turn up anything. I just got my NCD 17c up and running—I showed a pic or two on discord://classiccmp/#terminals a couple days ago—and now while I hear the HV

[cctalk] Re: NCD-17c and NCD-19 X terminal cap lists?

On Apr 4, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Richard via cctalk wrote: > > In article <07a97414-a207-42f5-8c6b-64f4556e3...@eschatologist.net>, > "Chris Hanson via cctalk" writes: > >> Does anyone have a list of replacement capacitors to use for NCD X >> terminal

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

On May 4, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > > It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription > services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still > runs one. What about eternal-september.org? -- Chris

Re: DEC VT520 in San Jose

I’d already arranged to pick it up by the time you posted this. ;) It works great! The seller only had an HP keyboard for it though (as shown), not an LK411, and those are terribly expensive right now on eBay. Still, it works just fine, and is nice and crisp amber on black even at 132×50. --

Re: PreOwned machine privacy - Was: Acclaim Entertainment Indy (with data, emails, etc) on eBay

On Mar 28, 2017, at 2:36 PM, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: > > While I'm not specifically crapping on the guy selling this Indy - I'm kind > of curious how others feel about this sort of thing as it's something I've > been confronted with personally lately. It’s going to make it harder for peopl

Re: C, STL, primitive languages that live on and on ... Re: Does anyone here know Siemens STL?

On Apr 17, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 04/17/2017 01:23 PM, Guy Dawson via cctalk wrote: >> I think timing had a lot to do with C's success. >> >> It's a decent language and at the time powerful and flexible compared >> to other languages. Universities picked up UNIX

Re: Chip in first Apple AirPort WiFi

On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: > I still have a pre-wifi 13" long ISA WaveLan card that is in the 915mhz ISM > band sitting on a shelf. Weird Stuff had one too when last I was there. -- Chris

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a dd equivalent for VMS? I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in general. -- Chris

Re: Back To: Getting to NeXt Command prompt

It’s command-backquote, not quote. The backquote key is in the upper left of the numeric keypad. Sorry for linking to a keyboard poaching site but it has a couple good images of the NeXT keyboards: https://deskthority.net/photos-f62/next-non-adb-keyboard-t12259.html

Re: Why women were the first computer programmers

On Aug 24, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay West via cctalk > wrote: > >> It was written... >> --- >> That's crude, ignorant, sexist, and wrong. >> --- >> >> The above statement sounds to me as being intol

Re: Why women were the first computer programmers

On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Jay West via cctalk wrote: > > While one could argue about the intent of the original poster, one cannot > argue that the personal attack - and namecalling - from Evan was acceptable. > It was not. Evan did not engage in either a personal attack or name-calling. R

[cctalk] Re: CPT Phoenix Jr system unit? Monitor and Keyboard

Sorry I missed this, you only sent it to the list and I haven't looked at the list for a while. I've actually just acquired a CPT Phoenix Jr. computer to go with my display and keyboard, so I now have a full system that I'm planning to restore and use. In what way has your display failed? If it

[cctalk] Re: CPT Phoenix Jr system unit? Monitor and Keyboard

On Jun 7, 2023, at 5:09 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > Sorry I missed this, you only sent it to the list and I haven't looked at the > list for a while. I've actually just acquired a CPT Phoenix Jr. computer to > go with my display and keyboard, so I now have

[cctalk] Re: Little Databases

On Aug 19, 2023, at 7:33 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 8:31 PM Gavin Scott via cctalk > wrote: > >> It [SQLite] has billions of installations and on the order of a trillion >> databases in use. >> > > Surely you hyperbole. This is not hyperbole, there are mu

[cctalk] Re: TI 960

On Sep 4, 2023, at 1:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Weren't the TI 900 series the things called Transputers? No. Completely unrelated. — Chris

[cctalk] Re: Computhink Eagle 32 - software, docs, info?

I picked up this system from its previous caretaker yesterday, to hold onto for a friend. I’ve also inventoried the major functional ICs and archived the “IPL-M” ROMs. Here’s what’s in the Eagle-32: - Main Logic Board - 8MHz 68000 CPU - 2x D8255 programmable peripheral interface - left

[cctalk] Re: The Mac at 40

Apple didn't "steal" anything because Xerox received a tranche of pre-IPO Apple shares in exchange for allowing SJ and his folks to visit PARC for a bunch of demos and do whatever they wanted with what they saw. Nowadays you can also try out systems like Smalltalk-78, Xerox ViewPoint, etc. as w

[cctalk] Re: Vmebus

On Jan 30, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > thanks. I suppose that gives me enough idea what time period and use they > had VMEbus was widely used as a successor to MultiBus in the workstation market, a lot of vendors that started with MultiBus (Sun/SGI for example) switche

[cctalk] Re: Vmebus

On Jan 29, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone have a VMEbus system they use at least occasionally? If so, what > make/model/config? I have a variety of VME hardware that I use some of the time, and on the ClassicCmp Discord we even have a #vme channel. I've mostly been

[cctalk] Re: Vmebus

On Feb 2, 2024, at 2:06 AM, David Brownlee via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:34, Wouter de Waal via cctalk > wrote: >> If someone here has the warm fuzzies for PPC VME, we can talk :-) > > Other than a reflexive twitch to see if NetBSD can run on the MPC7448? :-p It’s NetBSD, o

[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180

I just looked at the prices on eBay—yikes! All of my HP hardware from that era was pretty inexpensive a few years back. What are people using the B180L for that’s driven the prices so high? I assume it’s another “there’s a piece of equipment that was built around this specific platform 20+ year

[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180

On Apr 4, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > > There is an ebay seller 'biff-howard-tanen' that has some C200s up > right now. All their items have "Make an Offer'' and they tend to be > fairly reasonable as long as you account for the free shipping they > offer. I've had mostly good luck

[cctalk] Heurikon HK68/M10 (Multibus) information?

Does anyone have any manuals or other information on the Heurikon HK68/M10? Or the Hbug ROMs for it? The HK68/M10 is a Multibus 68010 board with serial, SCSI, parallel, timers, 1MB onboard RAM, 2- or 4-channel DMA, and an optional 68451 MMU. It's similar but not identical to the HK68/V10 (the V

[cctalk] Re: Heurikon HK68/M10 (Multibus) information?

a couple of years ago > and didn't turn anything interesting up. A couple of former Heurikon folks > said they'd look but nothing came of it. Ping me if you turn anything up. > > KJ > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 10:04 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk > mailto:cctalk@cla

HP-Apollo 9000/400t series stand, disk sleds or their specifications

Does anyone have the stand for an HP-Apollo 9000/400t series, or specs for it (particularly the screws used to attach it to the main unit)? I haven’t seen screw specifications in the online reference material I’ve found, so it’ll be hard to make my own stand. Also, does anyone have a part numbe

Re: HP-Apollo 9000/425t RAM

On Nov 19, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Sven Schnelle via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/06/2018 07:16 AM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > >> All that said I’m quite surprised MAME doesn’t include HP-Apollo 9000/400 >> series emulation. The hardware is very similar to the 9000/380, which

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

Most Suns of that era don’t need intact NVRAM to run, you can just key in a few lines of Forth when you start it up (to set its Ethernet address and serial number), then tell it to boot off network/disk/CD, and it’ll be fine. -- Chris > On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wro

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

There are also the Fujitsu LeiA SPARC portables. I’ve used OPENSTEP 4.2 on one… -- Chris > On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk > wrote: > > A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They > eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops >

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:59 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > I thought folk might enjoy this short-ish (~12min) Youtube video > showing startup of arguably the first ever Sun workstation It’s a Sun-2 so it’s not really arguable whether it’s the first ever Sun workstation: It’s not. -- Chri

Re: IT books available

On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Donald via cctalk wrote: > > Listed these on eBay a few times. No takers. Did you list only the lot or the individual books? Asking people to buy the whole lot might be the issue. -- Chris

Re: More old stuff incoming

Thanks for doing this, Cindy! Old Apollo and HP stuff (they used to be separate companies, but HP bought Apollo in the late 1980s) is definitely something I and others want. There’s also a small aftermarket for HP 9000/200 and HP 9000/300 equipment since there are still industrial control & mea

Re: Want/Available list

On Dec 20, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: > > a forum with a bazaar should be more appropriate > frankly this mail list looks like spam, and it's going irritating > since it's difficult to follow and to handle What do you mean by this? Do you mean you would prefer to visit a

Re: xterm Tektronix xp217 for sale

Do you have any more details to share about this X terminal? Is it an XP217M or XP217C? How much RAM is in it? What version of the CD/firmware? — Chris Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk > wrote: > > so, already asked but i haven't yet got a clear answ

Re: Folder for pics of Houston haul Jan 2019

To make things easier to organize, please don’t use a new subject line every time you post about this. Ideally, please use a more descriptive subject line in the first place (“Who is in Houston?” says nothing about why you want to know if anyone is in Houston, “Houston IBM haul” would be much mo

HP board "gold recovery" garbage

This hurts my heart: HP Gold vintage 1970's high yeld recovery plated ic chips leads w palladium caps https://www.ebay.com/itm/382505855460 Who cares what something could do, there might be pennies worth of gold to be had! -- Chris

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

> > But people on this list do not like to hear this. > > -- > Will > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: >> >> This hurts my heart: >> >> HP Gold vintage 1970's high yeld recovery plated ic chips leads

Re: Hewlett-Packard 3000, 9000, Itanium (HP-UX & MPE/iX) Servers, Storage Arrays, Replacement Parts, Maintenance, & Disaster back-ups

One thing I seriously dislike looking at the site is that there are no prices; that to me says you’re going to want to charge too much, and I also don’t like having to talk to someone or negotiate with someone in order to buy things for my hobby. How much would you charge for the following? -

Re: Hewlett-Packard 3000, 9000, Itanium (HP-UX & MPE/iX) Servers, Storage Arrays, Replacement Parts, Maintenance, & Disaster back-ups

On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > How much would you charge for the following? > > - HP 9000-712/80 > - HP A4012 TeleShare card for the 9000-712 For the list’s edification, I recently paid about $200 total, including shipping, for the above (not from J

Re: Jesse and the ebay mess

On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > I just got off the phone with Jesse at Cypress. He said he did not post the > gold and tantalum items on ebay. It is someone else, trying to cast a bad > name on him. It was in the eBay Store linked from his web site. I didn’t

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

Sorry, but no. It’s grossly offensive for things that work perfectly well and that someone might actually find useful to go to scrap. There’s tons of useless and broken junk that our civilization can mine for scrap, we don’t need to actually destroy things that have actual value. If someone isn

Intel PC-BUBBLE Card documentation?

Does anyone have documentation stashed away for the Intel PC-BUBBLE Card? The PC-BUBBLE is an 8-bit ISA card that Intel produced for prototyping bubble memory applications in the mid-1980s, the ROM on mine is v3.0 and says it’s copyright 1986. I don’t want to insert this into a system until I’m

Re: VAX 4000-100 Free to a good home

On Mar 12, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Kenneth Moser via cctalk wrote: > > I have one, with some disks and other misc gear. Headed for the dump if I > cannot find a home. Would prefer to find a home for my old friend... You haven’t said where you are or the timeframe in which you’re trying to find i

Re: VAX 4000-100 Free to a good home

On Mar 12, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > > Based on his area code, he’s in Virginia, near Washington DC. So far enough > that I can’t be tempted, and this is one of the very few items I’d find > tempting. :-) You can’t really base anything on that, most people use mobile phones these

DECimage questions

I recently acquired a DECimage X terminal, which is theoretically a VXT-2000 with an add-on 2D accelerator. Unfortunately while the terminal is badges as a DECimage it didn’t include the board, just a frame buffer. Does anyone have a spare DECimage board they’d be interested in parting with, or

Re: DECimage questions

Thanks so much for the detailed response! I’m especially glad to know regular 72pin SIMMs should work. If I find a DEC reseller that has DECimage or 10Base-T boards for a reasonable price, I’ll let you know. — Chris

Sun SS2 SBus memory expansion parts

I have the 32MB memory expansion card for my SPARCstation 2 (P/N 501-1823) but not the accompanying cable (501-1814) or 32MB mezzanine card (501-1824). Does anyone have either the cable or mezzanine card that they’d be willing to part with for a reasonable price? I’ve only found sellers carrying

Re: Sun SS2 SBus memory expansion parts

On Apr 25, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > I have the 32MB memory expansion card for my SPARCstation 2 (P/N 501-1823) > but not the accompanying cable (501-1814) or 32MB mezzanine card (501-1824). Of course I meant 530-1814 as the Sun part number for the cable.

Tandem 6526 information?

A friend not on the list obtained a Tandem 6526 terminal. In the process of trying to refurbish it, the first 80 bytes of its ROM got trashed. Does anyone happen to have one so she could recover from this? Also, she has no keyboard, and no information about Tandem’s block mode or other protocol

Definicon DSI-020 software?

I’ve recently come into a Definicon DSI-020 coprocessor card, and would like the software that goes with it. Does anyone know where to find it? There’s a zip file that claims to be the DSI-020 software, but it’s actually the DSI-32 software: The DSI-32 is an NS32032 coprocessor card, while the D

Re: Definicon DSI-020 software?

On Jun 17, 2019, at 7:16 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 6/16/19 4:42 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: >> There’s a zip file that claims to be the DSI-020 software, but it’s actually >> the DSI-32 software > > where would that be? I found it a couple places

Re: Apollo Guidance Computer Article

You might want to be explicit that the article is about the Apollo Guidance Computer, not about Apollo Computer the workstation manufacturer. — Chris

Re: Origins of nameless semaphores and Apple's non-support thereof

On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: > > I recently tripped over the fact that MacOS does not support nameless POSIX > semaphores. When attempting to use them, I get a complaint that they're > deprecated. I can't fathom why Apple would do that. I found this post >

Re: Latest Additions to the Virtual Warehouse of Computing Wonders Sale Inventory

I think the big difference between Sellam and a lot of people selling on, say, eBay is that Sellam is One Of Us: He’s a collector and enthusiast himself, not just someone hoping to make a buck off of a market in which they’re not themselves a participant. So the stuff that I’ve gotten from Sell

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: > > Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at > VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two? The Apple I never did very much,

Re: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)

On Jul 17, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk wrote: > This. People on the internet are insane. I have gotten literal death threats > for refusing to sell keyboards. People threatening to find my home address > and do things about my “hoarding”. I should never have said a goddamn wo

Re: Scanning question (Is destruction of old tech docs a moral crime?)

On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: >> While I agree that making a non-optimal digital copy in such cases, is, >> well, non-optimal (because for _many uses_, the basic information is still >> available, wheras for many important documents, not even that remains), >> there's

Re: VCF West?

On Jul 30, 2019, at 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? Some of us have been busy trying to prep for it. :) -- Chris

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

On Aug 17, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Charles via cctalk wrote: > I just hate having to make a custom cable for every terminal and computer I > own or work with ;) Ah, but isn’t doing what so many before you have had to part of the charm? :) -- Chris

Re: NeXT in Toronto/Canada - was Re: Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Mouse via cctalk wrote: > >> I'm also a Cube owner in Toronto. Maybe we should start a local >> collector's / user's group :D > >> Any others care to speak up? > > I'm in Ottawa. I've got a - very small! - collection of NeXT hardware. > A slab or two, at least one

Re: Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:26 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > > OK anyone else have a cube out there that is cosmetically decent? does > not need to be internally complete? > > Ours is a bit of a beater for the display What’s wrong with yours that you can’t clean it up for a non-operational displa

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Mar 14, 2017, at 1:46 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > >> Although I suppose you might have been talking about the software. I mean, >> without that whole display/windows/menu/mouse thing he copied from Xerox, to >> allow ordinary people to use a computer, where would we be? > > Fixed that for

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > The Star introduced the concept of icons representing files (and other > things) in 1981. According to “Inventing the Lisa User Interface,” Apple put emphasis on icons in the Lisa interface in its Marketing Requirements Document in

Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

Does anyone have AViiON AV300D or related docs? I got a pair that have bum power supplies and I’m hoping to find something that will makes servicing them easier. After I get them running, I’ll obviously be looking for software. And a pinout for their unique SCSI port, though I hear they can net

Re: Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

I’ve seen that datageneral.uk at least has a pinout for an Eclipse MV SCSI port, which hypothetically might match the AViiON DB-50 SCSI. In the absence of real docs though, who can say? Can you post the AViiON AV300D power supply pinout you’ve figured out? Maybe I can power on my system with a

Re: Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

Thank you! -- Chris > On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:32 AM, alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > > I mean to add, that view is looking through the machine not the connector. > So with the PSU oriented in it's natural position, that is the pinout of the > solder pin tails coming up through the PSU PCB or

Re: HP vintage boards being sold as scrap

On Sep 26, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > > 3. Just because you have different opinions doesn't mean their ways are > wrong. Hell, they even seem to be willing to work with people interested in > single boards. I'm sure they're putting "GOLD!!!" in the title for > adverti

Re: Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

One thing I’ve done is dump the ROMs in my two AV300D. They’re identical except for the last 4 bytes, which I suspect is where their host/Ethernet ID comes from. Unfortunately while the ROM is a JEDEC 1Mbit part, my dump doesn’t look coherent, in that there’s no simple ASCII text like appears a

Vigra MMI-210 (VME DSP/audio card) documentation?

I just acquired a Vigra MMI-210 VME DSP/audio card that I’d like to get working. Does anyone happen to have manuals or know where I could find them? The Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive provides some programming information

Re: Vigra MMI-210 (VME DSP/audio card) documentation?

On Oct 24, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Ethan O'Toole wrote: > >> I just acquired a Vigra MMI-210 VME DSP/audio card that I’d like to get >> working. Does anyone happen to have manuals or know where I could find them? >> The Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive provides some Anyone have a >> source f

IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) and AIX 3.2.5

I have an IBM RS/6000 POWERstation 320 (original 7012-320) with plenty of RAM and SCSI storage. I’d like to install AIX 3.2.5 on it. Here’s the hardware setup: - POWERstation 320 - 8MB RAM currently, soon to be 72MB - Serial port adapter so I can use a terminal - Correct IBM keyboard (not work

IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) SCSI cabling

Does anyone have a spare internal or external SCSI cable for the IBM RS/6000 Model 320 with the IBM MCA SCSI-1 card (3-1)? For those who don’t know/remember, this card uses a pair of edge connectors (like MFM/ESDI) rather than an IDC connector to connect to its internal two-drop cable, and its

Re: IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) SCSI cabling

On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > I don't have any internal SCSI cables left from those systems. I do > still have a 70F9733 5-foot external SCSI cable that has the weird > 60-pin connector on the system end, and the weird pass-thru normal > 50-pin connector on the d

Taligent

On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: > Does Talingent Pink sound familiar? OS/2 was ported to powerPC, and so > was Netware iirc. The field was quite busy with hopeful Microsoft > killers. OS/2 was to be morphed into a cross-platform o/s, to wean > folks from dos/x

OpenStep Solaris

On Jan 5, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Sun *did* do a full port of OpenStep to Solaris, but while I know > people who saw it, I am not sure if it got a full commercial release. Not quite! Sun was a participant in creating the OpenStep standard (the NS class prefix stands f

Mach

On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > It did seem for a while that a lot of things were based on Mach, but >> >> very few seemed to make it to market. NeXTstep and OSF/1, the only >> version of which to ship AFAIK was DEC OSF/1 AXP, later Digital UNIX, >> later Tru64.

Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

I have my Sun-4/110C set up and running SunOS 4.1.4. Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacstool (built as part of emacs 18.59) and the PLATO client (which I haven’t actually built yet). I know I can read t

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/9/20 1:33 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >> On 3/9/2020 12:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk >>> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: >>> >>> I would thin

Re: Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:19 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: > >> Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? >> >> Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacsto

Re: (V)HDL Toolsets

On May 21, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > > Helpful tips - I agree with avoiding vendor extensions. Thanks. I’d strongly suggest that the situation with FPGAs & HDLs requires a bit more nuance than that. You *should* probably avoid or carefully isolate vendor *language exte

Re: (V)HDL Toolsets

On May 23, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I don't think a 100K character IBM SMS machine needs DDR. 8D For my > old student ECE ZAP machine, I just used very simple > on-development-board RAM, with a layer in between. Probably do the same > here. These days, the RAM on a lot of deve

Re: Living Computer Museum

This is why people should avoid donating equipment directly to institutions and instead lend hardware to them. At least then you have a claim with which to try to get your stuff back if they fold, close, or decide to go in a direction you don’t like. -- Chris

Re: Living Computer Museum

The big problem with this situation is that it’s simply unnecessary: Living Computer Museum + Labs is not independent of Vulcan, and Vulcan can *easily* afford to keep the people who work there on payroll and working from home indefinitely. This is happening entirely because the people holding

Re: Living Computer Museum

On May 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Perry wrote: > > That wasn’t an option for most folks. They told me that they didn’t accept > items on loan. Well, that really sucks. -- Chris

Re: Living Computer Museum

On May 27, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > > I would think that if people you liked got replaced with people who > don't care then you might have a major battle trying to get back stuff > you loaned. It might be a battle, possibly even a major one, but it would be fundamentally wi

Re: Living Computer Museum

On May 28, 2020, at 10:31 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > >> Loans are standard practice in art museums, from other museums as well as >> from private collections. Perhaps not so much in science/technology museums. > > Art museums work under a different set of rules and ethics than o

Re: Living Computer Museum

On May 28, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Robert Harrison via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone know what it would take to sustain the museum until it can > reopen? Are tickets a major source of income? > This is the first I have heard of the museum, so I don’t know much about it, > but it sounds like somethi

Re: Living Computer Museum

On May 28, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > So depressingly true. I run the little museum in Google's NYC office. > I've had a bunch of working 80's-90's era machines and workstations on > display, but they require constant repair because people are too lazy or > entitled to tr

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

On Jun 16, 2020, at 10:23 PM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > > Jon Elson wrote: >> Yes, several other groups I read and contribute to have moved to >> groups.io, and they are working quite well and reliably. Some options >> require $10 a month to be free from ads. > > That's a red flag. B

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

On Jun 17, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote: > There is also groups.io, and it has some very nice features compared to > > Please please, no groups of any kinds. They're all horrible to use. Do you mean "web forum" where you say "groups?" > A > genuine mailing list like thi

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

On Jun 17, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020, ED SHARPE @ AOHell.com via cctalk wrote: >> These 2 have my vote as well >> I do not know, anyone using a text only mail reader anymore! >> >>> The one thing I would change here is removal of the restriction

CSPI SC-3XL and SC-4XL documentation?

I've just come into a couple of CSPI VME cards, an SC-3XL and an SC-4XL (both with attached memory), and I was wondering if anyone has documentation. They're based on the Intel i860 and intended for VME-based array processors. -- Chris

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