Greetings,
We're making final touches on a short history-video we've been making about
home computers (my daughter, in middle school, has been helping).
If anyone has time/interest to do a review, the draft listing is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mgSVJZoFc
Unless anyone spots a gross
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Age of Tape Formats?
>
> On Mar 7, 2023, at 5:32 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm a
Not really technical, but a couple of presentation points :
There's a long tail to the video with no video and blank audio. After a
while, a section of audio from the main flow is repeated.
It seems to be common to consider Youtube videos more approachable if
they're up to about 10 minutes long.
On 3/7/2023 8:30 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> I’m working on a project, and I need to know the age of various tape
> formats. For example when were 6250bpi 700’ 9-Track tapes or DC600A
> cartridges introduced? Is there any good resource online that
> documents this? Wikipedia
Some information about the origin of CUTS here :
https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/8099/whats-the-difference-between-kansas-city-tape-standard-and-cuts
I recall a Logabax computer (a french office / accounting system that seems
to e completely forgotten) in about 1975 that had a b
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> On 3/7/2023 8:30 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
>> > I’m working on a project, and I need to know the age of various tape
>> > formats. For example when were 6250bpi 700’ 9-Track tapes or DC600A
>> > cartridges i
On 3/8/2023 9:11 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Mar 8, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
On 3/7/2023 8:30 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> I’m working on a project, and I need to know the age of various tape
> formats. For example when were 6250bpi 700’ 9-Track tape
This is awesome, Steve. First of all please give a high five to your
middle-schooler daughter whom you had her help make such a high quality video.
I assume that such videos will also be shared at schools, and your daughter’s
friends. It would help raise awareness on the history of computers tha
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Bill Gunshannon
> wrote:
>
>
> On 3/8/2023 9:11 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
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>>> On Mar 8, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/7/2023 8:30 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> I’m working on a project, and I need to
On 3/7/23 22:34, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
I’ll be the first to admit my question is a bit strange. Basically I’m trying
to use the date that various media types were first introduced to show the
oldest possible date for a bunch of media I’m trying to date. The 9-Track
tapes have been in
Speaking of compatibility, we had a 360/50 many ages ago,
and it was "permitted" to put the tape controller on the
multiplexer channel. This prevented long tape operations
from locking up the disk controller on the selector
channel. The model /50 only had one selector. But, if
there was too
On 3/8/23 05:33, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote:
Our Honeywell H3200 had 1200BPI NRZI 7-track drives.
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/honeywell/datapro/70C-480-01_7404_Honeywell_200_2000.pdf
page 13 onwards... Needed chrome tape
Dave
The reason NRZI topped out at 800 BPI on 9-track
Adrian,
> There's a long tail to the video with no video and blank audio. After a
> while, a section of audio from the main flow is repeated.
Thanks, yeah that was a left over to compare an alternate ending. One
idea is to make it such that the video can "loop" seamlessly for continuous
play,
Tarek,
> This is awesome, Steve. First of all please give a high five to your
middle-schooler daughter whom you had her help make such a high
> quality video. I assume that such videos will also be shared at schools,
and your daughter’s friends. It would help raise awareness on
> the history of co
On 3/8/23 06:19, Paul Koning wrote:
> I wouldn't exclude those, certainly not if they are relevant to the evolution
> of the technology. Are X1 tapes (and Eliott tapes if they are the same
> format, which I don't know) in some way anticipating LINCtape and DECtape?
> Are they an independent
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 12:20 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 3/8/23 06:19, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> I wouldn't exclude those, certainly not if they are relevant to the
>> evolution of the technology. Are X1 tapes (and Eliott tapes if they are the
>> same format, which I don't k
I like that you've included machines like the HP and IBM - sometimes these
histories start with the Altair as being the first one at an affordable
price, but I'm sure those desktop machines got to a lot of scientific homes
before the enthusiasts machines began to appear.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 5:
She made you proud!! If all our kids can get as excited and curious about the
history of computers as your daughter then the future will be so bright.
We probably need to get more advice from her on what we all, old-school timers,
should do to help keep the legacy going on !
Regards,
Tarek Hote
On 3/8/23 09:42, Paul Koning wrote:
> Second, I would consider a format to be significant if it had a major market
> presence and major place in the technology space. In that sense, DECtape I
> clearly belongs -- being either the primary or a significant secondary
> storage device for a decade
I think it remarkable in retrospect that the original Star Trek (ca.
1966) used countless mentions of "computer tapes" in the 23rd century.
A lack of foresight on the part of the script writers?
What can we predict for the year 2250?
--Chuck
I loved it. I would only suggest a human narrator like your daughter would be
great. But I don't like the computer generated narration (I am right about the
computer narrator, aren't I?).
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To: Gener
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>
> I think it remarkable in retrospect that the original Star Trek (ca.
> 1966) used countless mentio
On 3/8/23 10:19, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote:
>
> Yes, but Space 1999 still had slide rules..
I thought this discussion by one of the JPL people working on the tape
mechanism for Voyager (1980) might be interesting to some:
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/2053/how-was-magnetic-ta
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 6:12 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I'm not familiar with PLATO cassettes. Are those attached to terminals?
> The oldest data cassettes I know of are on the TI Silent 733 terminals --
> which were thought of as paper tape emulation done on audio cassettes, at
> 300 b
I hate to throw a spanner in the works but no one has mentioned U-Matic
tapes. Normally used for video recording the early CD audio and CD-Rom
industry encoded the digital image on to U-Matic tapes which were then
used to drive the laser for writing to the CD Master.
On 3/8/2023 11:42 AM, Pau
On 2023-03-08 11:07 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
I think it remarkable in retrospect that the original Star Trek (ca.
1966) used countless mentions of "computer tapes" in the 23rd century.
A lack of foresight on the part of the script writers?
What can we predict for the year 2250?
--Ch
Yes. I second that. Having the daughter as a narrator is perfect. No offense,
Steve.
Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 10:09 AM, W2HX via cctalk wrote:
>
> I loved it. I would only suggest a human narrator like your daughter would
> be great. But I don't like the computer generate
"Holy smokes. Poking around on these disk images it looks like these
system have a FULL DECNET FILE SERVER as well." Are you referring to
DECnet FAL on the PRO, or the little known PRO Cluster software? -- Lee
K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultants lee.glea...@comcast.net
> Wow! I'd love to see the 1971 vintage GCR tape controller, it must
> have been the size of a 360 CPU! We had a GCR controller from
> Storage Tech. in 1982 or so that was the same size as a PDP 11/44
> large cabinet. CDC Keystone drives (92185) had it integrated into
> the 680x controller
Very informative and enjoyable. I echo the narration sentiment, maybe a
little more life in the voice would hold attention.
My only other comment is some of the information pictures go by pretty
quickly. It'd be neat even in a slower slideshow version so I could take
the time to read the ads and p
There is ample evidence of people doing personal computing before the
microprocessor was invented. There was a whole terminal/time sharing scene
in the late 60s, plus people who did personal computung by using the
machine at a school, work, or library. There were also people whonowned
surplussed
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> There is ample evidence of people doing personal computing before the
> microprocessor was invented. There was a whole terminal/time sharing scene
> in the late 60s, plus people who did personal computung by using the
> machin
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> Subject: [cctalk] Re: on the origin of home computers
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > There is ample
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 2:37 PM,
> wrote:
>
> ...
> Computer Games are almost as old as (Turing Complete) Computers. Alan Turing
> insisted that the Manchester/Ferranti MK1 had a Random Number generator.
> Christopher Strachey wrote a tic-tac-toe (noughts and crosses to the
> English) program w
My point was that "home computing" does not equal playing computer games at
home. That is something that evolved into the early 90's.Games were
much less of a thing in home computing of the 70's. THere are always
exceptions, there are always variations. It's not that games weren't there
eithe
SO - To return to the video feedback - I think the author should comment on
the evolution of what "Home Computing" is/was, the evolution in
demographics of the home computer user, the cost, etc. Needs perspective
Bill
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:41 PM Bill Degnan wrote:
> My point was that "home c
If you want authoritative sources I highly recommend:
*IBM J. RES. DEVELOP. • VOL. 25 • NO. 5 • SEPTEMBER 1981, has an
article “Innovations in the Design of Magnetic Tape Subsystems”
*IBM Journal of Research and Development Vol. 47, No. 4, July 2003 has
an article “Fifty years o
Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's and
60's
https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/restoring-the-heathkit-es-400-computer
https://s3data.computerhistory.org/brochures/heath.analog.1956.102646297.pdf
https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/May2016_Heathkit
and kenbak was not the first "home computer" when will that one die I
don't know.
..NRI 832 pre-dates by at least 6 months
:-)
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:49 PM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
> Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's and
> 60's
>
>
> https://www.nutsvolts
I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One can
argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue that the
Altair is the first. It is unfair to make the author of the video be 100%
perfect because it is too technical / debatable for the video: is
> On 03/08/2023 11:59 AM CST Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> We probably need to get more advice from her on what we all, old-school
> timers, should do to help keep the legacy going on !
>
> Regards,
> Tarek Hoteit
>
That statement may be the most important one on this list in a lo
Tom,
What an excellent bibliography for the topic.
Thank you.
Sellam
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:45 AM Tom Gardner via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> If you want authoritative sources I highly recommend:
>
> *IBM J. RES. DEVELOP. • VOL. 25 • NO. 5 • SEPTEMBER 1981, has an
> art
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:49 AM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
> Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's and
> 60's
>
>
> https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/restoring-the-heathkit-es-400-computer
>
> https://s3data.computerhistory.org/brochures/heath.analog.1956.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:54 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One
> can argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue
> that the Altair is the first. It is unfair to make the au
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:54 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One
> can argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue
> that the Altair is the first.
A very good argument coul
Thank you, Bill!
When Steve posted the video about the history of computers, I thought something
like “cool to see another video” But when he mentioned a middle schooler
helping, that changed the entire perspective for me. I am close to 50. I have
seen and been part of vintage and classic comput
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:55 AM Will Cooke via cctalk
wrote:
>
> > On 03/08/2023 11:59 AM CST Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
>
> > We probably need to get more advice from her on what we all, old-school
> timers, should do to help keep the legacy going on !
> >
> >
THe LGP-30 was to arguably the first personal electronic (non analog)
computer, my opinion, but it covers all of the bases as I see them. A
relatively small stand alone real time general purpose electronic computer
that one person could operate.
Bill
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 3:22 PM Sellam Abraham
On 2023-03-08 2:13 p.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
There is ample evidence of people doing personal computing before the
microprocessor was invented. There was a whole terminal/time sharing scene
in the late 60s, plus people who did personal computung by using the
machine at a school, work
> On 03/08/2023 2:21 PM CST Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:55 AM Will Cooke via cctalk
> wrote:
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> >
> > > On 03/08/2023 11:59 AM CST Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > We probably need to get more advice from her on
Since we are never going to completely agree on
"First",
"computer",
"home computer",
"home computing", (using a a terminal with a remote computer)
might I suggest the works of Edmund Berkeley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geniac
https://www.instructables.com/GENIAC-Electric-Brain-Replica/
Ful
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM Will Cooke via cctalk
wrote:
> Everyone on this list is going to die sometime. Some sooner than later.
> We need young people if all or any part of this history is going to be
> preserved past us. All of the "museum" fiascos that have been covered here
> show how
> On 03/08/2023 2:42 PM CST Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM Will Cooke via cctalk
> wrote:
So, how do we get them interested? I
> > can't think of a better idea than asking one of the few that IS
> > interested. Can you?
>
> But ask them what exact
Running museum (kennettclassic.com) I meet with kids daily who are very
interested in computing history. They all seem to know the Youtubers who
specialize in vintage gaming and computing. These youtube channels are not
always historically accurate but it's a start. Most younger people
gravita
That is great news. I think these kids saw the 90s as NES (Mario), Sega
(Sonic), and their dads playing either Leisure Suite Larry and later Doom on
the PC. I think we need to find a way to pull them to this news group, rather
than them pulling us to their Discord chats, and then all of us woul
I'd invite any one here to docent the museum for a day, it will provide a
lot of perspective as to the general public view on computer history. I
learned quickly you can't fire\hose people, kids in particular with a lot
of factoids. Most people just want to walk around and look, they don't
need a
On 3/8/2023 2:54 PM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One can
argue Plato is one.
There must be a Plato I don't know about. The one I saw when I was in IT at
West Point was bigger than a desk. Hardly what would have pass
We can get them excited by thinking like them - videos (narrated by their kind
not us) and we are in the background. We play old school games and make fun of
the 8bit sounds in front of them. Some might get curious and say “why does this
sound like that?” Or “why this graphic looks so different”
Technically true. However, if I would reference the book “The Friendly Orange
Glow” on the history of Plato, there is a chapter I recall in which the author
mentioned someone taking a terminal to their home
Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wro
On 3/8/2023 3:18 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:54 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One
can argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue
that
We can ask them by saying “we were at your age and had toys that we loved so
much that we still talk about them 40 years or so later. If you have a toy that
you want to preserve that for 40 years, what would you do?”
Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctal
On 3/8/2023 2:49 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's
and 60's
I forgot all about mt GE Analog computer from the late 50's. Still have
it, it still works even though most of the insulation on the wiring has
rotted away. I k
I got into it from EAM/cards.
In 1970, I was working at National Space Sciences Data Center, building 26
at Goddard Space Flight Center. Doing gofer work for a British physicist
studying the Van Allen belts, as part of an on-site contract. FORTRAN,
APL, Gerber digitizer, and plotters (Calcom
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:04 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/8/2023 2:49 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> > Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's
> > and 60's
> >
> >
>
> I forgot all about mt GE Analog computer from the late 50
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:11 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> About eight years later, I bought a TRS80 for $398. Yes, you could buy
> it without the video monitor and cassette recorder.
> If I had a little more spending money, I might have gotten a PET, instead,
> or, not much later, but more m
On the subject of 1/2" open-reel tape, I note that the tapes initially
used with the IBM 726 drive (1952) used a cellulose acetate base. In
1956, a switch was made to Mylar. That's unfortunate, since early
existing 726 tapes have almost certainly rotted away due to vinegar
syndrome.
--Chuck
About eight years later, I bought a TRS80 for $398. Yes, you could buy
it without the video monitor and cassette recorder.
If I had a little more spending money, I might have gotten a PET, instead,
or, not much later, but more money, an Apple2.
Those were absolutely not the first home computer,
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On the subject of 1/2" open-reel tape, I note that the tapes initially
> used with the IBM 726 drive (1952) used a cellulose acetate base. In
> 1956, a switch was made to Mylar. That's unfortunate, since early
> existing 726 tapes
On 3/8/23 13:53, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> On the subject of 1/2" open-reel tape, I note that the tapes initially
>> used with the IBM 726 drive (1952) used a cellulose acetate base. In
>> 1956, a switch was made to Myl
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 8:31 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 3/7/23 22:34, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> I’ll be the first to admit my question is a bit strange. Basically I’m
>> trying to use the date that various media types were first introduced to
>> show the oldest possible
On Mar 8, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I think it remarkable in retrospect that the original Star Trek (ca.
> 1966) used countless mentions of "computer tapes" in the 23rd century.
>
> A lack of foresight on the part of the script writers?
>
> What can we predict for
On 3/8/23 13:03, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> Wow! I'd love to see the 1971 vintage GCR tape controller, it must
> have been the size of a 360 CPU! We had a GCR controller from
> Storage Tech. in 1982 or so that was the same size as a PDP 11/44
> large cabinet. CDC Keystone drives
Anyone interested in 3 tapes - has Olympics logo - still in original
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John :-#)#
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On 3/8/23 14:18, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:54 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One
can argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue
that the A
On 3/8/23 14:31, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
THe LGP-30 was to arguably the first personal electronic (non analog)
computer, my opinion, but it covers all of the bases as I see them. A
relatively small stand alone real time general purpose electronic computer
that one person could operate.
T
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:16 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/8/23 13:53, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On the subject of 1/2" open-reel tape, I note that the tapes initially
> >> use
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 6:46 PM Jon Elson via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/8/23 14:31, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> > THe LGP-30 was to arguably the first personal electronic (non analog)
> > computer, my opinion, but it covers all of the bases as I see them. A
> > relatively small stand alone real ti
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 05:24:40AM -0600, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
> We're making final touches on a short history-video we've been making about
> home computers (my daughter, in middle school, has been helping).
>
> If anyone has time/interest to do a review, the draft listing is here:
> htt
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 3/8/23 13:53, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On the subject of 1/2" open-reel tape, I note that the tapes initially
>>> used with the IBM
Hi,
I acquired an IBM PS/2 Model 80 (8580-071) today and am looking for
advice on what I should do to check it out before, during, and after
applying power for the first time.
I'll try to get some pictures if anyone is interested.
The label near the power switch says that it's an 8580-071.
On 3/8/23 19:23, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> Who can read them now? ;-)
I suppose that you could rig something up as a streaming rig, but the
metal was murder on heads; the Univservo I interposed a thin plastic
tape between the metal and the head. Fortunately, the density was
pretty low.
Not easy-
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 8:18 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> The label near the power switch says that it's an 8580-071. I have no idea
> how that compares to the hardware that's in it.
That would be 16 MHz, one 70 MB ESDI HDD (IBM 0667). Maximum 2 MB on the planar
(2x 1 MB modules)
:) it makes sense, Sellam, to inform her rather than she telling us, but again
she and others her age are the future. She will do it her way just like we, at
her age, did it our way. Funny: i just remembered a quote from Goonies - “this
is our time”
It is their time
Regards,
Tarek Hotei
:) it makes sense, Sellam, to inform her rather than she telling us, but again
she and others her age are the future. She will do it her way just like we, at
her age, did it our way. Funny: i just remembered a quote from Goonies - “this
is our time”
It is their time
Regards,
Tarek Hote
Not sure yet. Will see in a week or so
On March 8, 2023 1:42:58 PM EST, Lee Gleason via cctalk
wrote:
>"Holy smokes. Poking around on these disk images it looks like these system
>have a FULL DECNET FILE SERVER as well." Are you referring to DECnet FAL on
>the PRO, or the little known PRO Clus
Thank you all for the notes (and feedback).
The 1964 skit of Patty Duke using that Univac-422 - all the markings of a
personal computer right there, no doubt. But dragging that into a home
doesn't make it a home computer. As engineers, sure, we're good with that
- I don't even put cases on my co
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 3:59 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
> I had some good sized iron in my home in the early 80's.
We (my family - I put up 1/3, my mother covered the other 2/3) got a
PET in 1979. I came home from my first Dayton Hamvention in 1982 with
a PDP-8.
If a high school kid ca
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