On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, skogkatt...@yahoo.com wrote:
So ... can the GW be physically installed on a machine that doesn't have
usb capability. But have the data stream analyzed (on the fly) by a
different computer via it's usb capability?
Ehm, did you even read the documentation or looked at the p
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, Mike Katz wrote:
Using the Greaseweazel is a two stage process. The GW itself connects to the
actual drive and just records the flux transitions as a series of zeros and
ones. This is transferred to a computer (PC, MAC, Linux) where the captured
Even that is not fully co
Does anybody have any contact information for Scott Lurndal? I'm
trying to get his V-Series emulator working (I downloaded it quite a
while ago), but it doesn't include any documentation and his wiki is
no longer available (and a lot of pages weren't archived). I can run
it and get to the coldstart
Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
Indeed not not all SCSI terminators are created equal, there where three
types of signalling used Single Ended (SE) High Voltage Differential
(HVD) and Low Voltage Differential (LVD). LVD was created to squeeze a
bit more speed out of parallel SCSI.
That's n
On 2023-01-20 18:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
There is also the SMSC USB97CFDC2 floppy usb controller. Al has the
datasheet archived on bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/standardMicrosystems/_dataSheets/USB97CFDC2-01.pdf
a
On 1/20/23 22:27, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote:
Regardless, Keir is an impressive person for making the various projects
(FLashFloppy and GW). I think nowadays, everyone immediately replaces
Gotek std firmware with FF on the devices as soon as they hit the mailbox.
My first got the hXc2001
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, geneb via cctalk wrote:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the AppleSauce yet. Yes, it requires a
Mac. Yes, they're currently out of stock, but Yes, it's absolutely the
best solution out there for disk imaging. https://ap
On 1/21/23 01:11, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
FWIW, I just received a Gotek last week and it uses an AT32F415.
The first one I bought many years ago has an STM32F105.
At the time there was no third party firmware and it turned
out to be pretty useless on anything other than a PC.
With the cu
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
An interesting note. I have a device from DBIT that lets you
hook up an 8" disk to the interface for 5.25 or 3.5 floppies.
I wonder how I would go about reversing that process so I could
hook one of these GOTEKs up in place of a physical 8"
Question is are these versions of Irix suitable. Or couldnI do better.
And on account of SGIs licensing scheme, which attaches a specific os
version to a maxhine (or vice versa), does that entitle me to obtain and
install those specific versions. Put anotjer way if I obtained images
from somewh
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 6:59 AM geneb via cctalk
wrote:
>
> If anyone has questions, the AppleSauce Discord can be found here:
> https://discord.gg/YrQKdwNhdR
>
> Here's a list of the formats that the AS supports /so far/:
> https://applesaucefdc.com/what-is-applesauce/
>
And if anyone wants to le
On 2023-01-21 10:33, geneb via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
An interesting note. I have a device from DBIT that lets you
hook up an 8" disk to the interface for 5.25 or 3.5 floppies.
I wonder how I would go about reversing that process so I could
hook on
So converting a 1.44MB gotek to 720kb isn't possible? Seeing you habe to
replace the or some part of the stock firmware to use one with difderemt
computers would suggest it is a possibility.
On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 09:44:48 AM EST, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
On 1/20/2
I have an xt mobo and some portion is populated w/NEC 4116 or 4164 chips (but
4116s were specific to the 5150, no? It's not in front of me). There are a
bunch on the board, not sure if it's all the ram. Was this typical (I'm sure
that wasn't the case). Is this an example of an early 5160? Why di
On 1/20/23 22:11, Mike Stein wrote:
> FWIW, I just received a Gotek last week and it uses an AT32F415.
Aw shucks, that's not inspiring at all. F4 core, but only 32KB of SRAM.
Probably is cheaper than the usual STM32F107.
--Chuck
On 1/21/23 07:26, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> An interesting note. I have a device from DBIT that lets you
> hook up an 8" disk to the interface for 5.25 or 3.5 floppies.
> I wonder how I would go about reversing that process so I could
> hook one of these GOTEKs up in place of a physica
On 1/21/23 09:21, Chris via cctalk wrote:
> I have an xt mobo and some portion is populated w/NEC 4116 or 4164 chips (but
> 4116s were specific to the 5150, no? It's not in front of me). There are a
> bunch on the board, not sure if it's all the ram. Was this typical (I'm sure
> that wasn't the
Well the latgest question I have is whether early NEC chips with any lida were
commonly used to populate tne 5162. And if your lids aren't gold plated, is the
lid aluminum or some related alloy?
Since the switchover I am getting more and more of my messages
rejected as suspected SPAM. Anyone else seeing this?
bill
On 1/21/23 10:33, geneb via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
An interesting note. I have a device from DBIT that lets you
hook up an 8" disk to the interface for 5.25 or 3.5 floppies.
I wonder how I would go about reversing that process so I could
hook one
If you're just *reading* 8" images it should just be a simple matter of
remapping the pins.
Here's a good reference; just reverse your perspective:
http://dunfield.classiccmp.org/img42841/cnct.htm
FWIW, several dual-mode FDCs, notably Cromemco, effectively duplicate
almost all of the relevant 50
On 1/21/23 11:41, Chris via cctalk wrote:
So converting a 1.44MB gotek to 720kb isn't possible? Seeing you habe to
replace the or some part of the stock firmware to use one with difderemt
computers would suggest it is a possibility.
On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 09:44:48 AM EST, Bill
Sorry, I don't understand this comment at all.
bill
C: Jim Brain's comment or my question about converting a 1.44MB Gotek to 720kb?
Looking for a recommendation for an older (or even newer, some d games have
been rereleased anyway) for a either historical boxed table game ~A.D. 400 -
1300. Or something sci-fi (nothing tv or movie related though).
Earlier chips would have gold and later ceramic or black to save money.
With RAM being expensive it was common to take whatever you had and toss it
in your next system or an expansion card so that may be what you're seeing
from a previous owner.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 12:14 PM Chris via cctalk
wro
Chris,
I can count on fifteen hands some appropriate places to ask your question.
This list isn't one, regardless of your OT label. For example, rpggeek.com.
Please respect the mailing list.
Sellam
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 10:42 AM Chris via cctalk
wrote:
> Looking for a recommendation for an
On 1/21/23 10:14, Chris via cctalk wrote:
> Well the latgest question I have is whether early NEC chips with any lida
> were commonly used to populate tne 5162. And if your lids aren't gold plated,
> is the lid aluminum or some related alloy?
I'm just guessing, but probably NP copper.
Oi wow. Are you officially a moderator now.
On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 01:46:32 PM EST, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
wrote:
Chris,
I can count on fifteen hands some appropriate places to ask your question.
This list isn't one, regardless of your OT label. For example, rpggeek.com.
P
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 10:18 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Since the switchover I am getting more and more of my messages
> rejected as suspected SPAM. Anyone else seeing this?
>
No but I wish the list was configured differently so From: was the actual
sender w
Speaking of gold-plated chips, I'm finally scrapping the last remnants of a
Redactron mag card word processor; the main board has some house numbered
white ceramic chips with the usual gold pins and lids (24, 40, 16 pins).
Any interest for decoration/jewelry/exploration/whatever?
Also some Burrou
On 1/21/23 13:33, Chris via cctalk wrote:
Sorry, I don't understand this comment at all.
bill
C: Jim Brain's comment or my question about converting a 1.44MB Gotek to 720kb?
Interesting. I never got that one.
But I can say that I couldn't do that with the originals when I got
them se
The 720kbs are ~60% more money. You have to have one of those for an Atari ST,
Amiga, etc. I hate overpaying. I'm quite the tight wad.
On 1/21/2023 12:33 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
Sorry, I don't understand this comment at all.
bill
C: Jim Brain's comment or my question about converting a 1.44MB Gotek
to 720kb?
I apologize, as I didn't mean to say any such thing, and I'm looking
through the thread to see where I might h
On 1/21/2023 1:36 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
The 720kbs are ~60% more money. You have to have one of those for an
Atari ST, Amiga, etc. I hate overpaying. I'm quite the tight wad.
I feel like you may be confusing the two threads here.
FLashFLoppy works with Gotek hardware and requires no actu
I'm very confused at this point and not understanding the need for an apology.
I think it was Bill who found something unclear. I took offense at nothing, it
was unclear to me what was in question. In any event, please do carry on.
On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 02:51:12 PM EST, Jim Brain v
On 2023-01-21 11:41 a.m., Chris via cctalk wrote:
Looking for a recommendation for an older (or even newer, some d games have
been rereleased anyway) for a either historical boxed table game ~A.D. 400 -
1300. Or something sci-fi (nothing tv or movie related though).
King Maker was a good
Jim I know all that. Bill found something unclear, it seemed to me anyway.
My question was why a 1.44MB Gotek could't be made ro behave like a 720kb
Gotek. I didn't know others made Gotek clones. Whenever someone wanted to use a
Gotek with something other then a PC, something had to be written
Sheesh! Keep it offlist would ya. I'm already in hot water :)
On 1/21/2023 2:03 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
Jim I know all that. Bill found something unclear, it seemed to me anyway.
Bill was responding to this comment you made:
On 1/21/23 11:41, Chris via cctalk wrote:
So converting a 1.44MB gotek to 720kb isn't possible? Seeing you habe
to replace
On Jan 21, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
>
> Looking for a recommendation for an older (or even newer, some d games have
> been rereleased anyway) for a either historical boxed table game ~A.D. 400 -
> 1300. Or something sci-fi (nothing tv or movie related though).
For Sci-Fi, I’m
On 1/21/2023 6:45 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote:
On 2023-01-20 18:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
There is also the SMSC USB97CFDC2 floppy usb controller. Al has the
datasheet archived on bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/componen
IRIX isn't node-locked or licensed. Just some versions of IRIX drop support for
old systems. Google will tell you exactly what you can install on what. Indys
can all take 6.5.22 (but will be slow). The MIPSpro C compilers were licensed
w/ flex but Google is also your friend for that.
Totally di
On 1/21/23 11:51, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/21/2023 1:36 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
>> The 720kbs are ~60% more money. You have to have one of those for an
>> Atari ST, Amiga, etc. I hate overpaying. I'm quite the tight wad.
>
> I feel like you may be confusing the two threads here.
I g
I for 1 am getting duplicates of some messages. It's been happening for weeks.
Figured it was time to say something.
On 1/20/23 11:19, Chris via cctalk wrote:
>
> I have 2 IRIX sets. 15 disk 6.5.4 iinm. And a 3 diak 6.5.6. Have 2
> Indys, 1 is busted up, the 1 I'll wind up keeping for an extended period
> probably. 1 Indy has an r5000 I think and a graphics card. The other is
> mediocre. Also have an R1000 Imp
There is also the SMSC USB97CFDC2 floppy usb controller. Al has the
datasheet archived on bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/standardMicrosystems/_dataSheets/USB97CFDC2-01.pdf
also, I found it here;
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/374/97cfdc2_01-198397.pdf
What more could you a
Tony,
I suppose by now you do not have the documentation I am looking for, but
maybe you know somebody else who might have this.
Jan Secker
Op di 13 dec. 2022 om 12:26 schreef Tony Duell :
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:11 AM jf.secker--- via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello List,
> >
> > I have ma
On 2023-Jan-21, at 11:25 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
> Finally, some Burroughs memory boards containing what I think are 2102s,
> but I'd have to investigate.
Soldered or socketed?
I'm on the lookout for 16 (or more to have some spares) 2102s to populate an
EconoRAM S100 memory board to go
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Chris via cctalk wrote:
I have an xt mobo and some portion is populated w/NEC 4116 or 4164 chips
(but 4116s were specific to the 5150, no? It's not in front of me).
There are a bunch on the board, not sure if it's all the ram. Was this
typical (I'm sure that wasn't the case
On 2023-01-21 15:39, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
There is also the SMSC USB97CFDC2 floppy usb controller. Al has the
datasheet archived on bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/standardMicrosystems/_dataSheets/USB97CFDC2-01.pdf
also, I found it here;
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet
On 2023-Jan-21, at 10:14 AM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
> And if your lids aren't gold plated, is the lid aluminum or some related
> alloy?
Tin-plate on copper would be likely, easy to solder-seal on. Al would not
solder on easily.
Tin does make a nice plating. Even HP made some lab/computing
There is also the SMSC USB97CFDC2 floppy usb controller. Al has the
datasheet archived on bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/standardMicrosystems/_dataSheets/USB97CFDC2-01.pdf
also, I found it here;
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/374/97cfdc2_01-198397.pdf
What more could you a
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Brain via cctalk
> Sent: 21 January 2023 19:51
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Cc: Jim Brain
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate
> Maryland Man
>
> On 1/21/2023 1:36 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
> > The 720kbs are ~60%
On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 03:56:06 PM EST, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
Why not gold-plate? Gold was under $200 an ounce fora while, and the
thickness was thin.
In all honesty I hadn't allowed for non gold plated lids. Didn't know they were
a thing. I certainly have no problem with gilde
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Chris via cctalk wrote:
In all honesty I hadn't allowed for non gold plated lids. Didn't know
they were a thing. I certainly have no problem with gilded ram. I found
the thing at a vcf swap meet. No one else wanted it (?) so I snagged it.
Along with a no unnamed 5160 clone
> On 01/21/2023 2:55 PM CST Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> The first 5150 was available with one row of 16K RAM, you could plug
> whatever you had (such as from Godbout) into the other 3 rows, and almost
> anything was cheaper than IBM's prices.
>
>
> I think that the early 5160 also used 16
I obviously am into pain. But not so much that I want to wrestle with a
mfm/rll/esdi drive. I didn't say I was going to use it for much. The black p/s
may not even work. It didn't have a white switch don't think. The point is if I
got it all working it would be aomething of an 80s retro type of
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 12:56 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Why not gold-plate? Gold was under $200 an ounce fora while, and the
> thickness was thin.
>
Price is not a very good indicator for gold, especially nowadays as it's so
heavily manipulated/controlled by the
And 1 of the floppies (it may habe 3) was full height. So maybe someone was
trying to pawn it off as a real xt, piling everything they could into the box
to make it convincing as possible.
What is the Burroughs part number / printed on the chip? The 1449 1112 RAM
chips are Burroughs' part number for the intel 2102 RAM
Bill
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:51 PM Brent Hilpert via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 2023-Jan-21, at 11:25 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Finally
Nope, they're numbered 2479 9595, but ISTR some irregularities among BBM
part numbers, especially when it came to LSI and memory chips.
They do have GND and Vcc on pins 9 and 10 respectively though, as Brent
suggests; maybe my memory from 30 years ago isn't so bad after all (no idea
what I had for
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 07:55:50PM -0800, geneb via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the AppleSauce yet. Yes, it requires a
> Mac. Yes, they're currently out of stock, but Yes, it's absolutely the
> best solution out there for disk imaging. https://applesaucefdc.com/
It's c
You read it right. I think only Zenith and Fujifilm made them.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 6:17 PM Chris via cctalk
wrote:
> You read it right. I think only Zenith and Fujifilm made them.
>
Years ago I bought a portable with 2.5" floppies. It came with 1 disk that
was dodgy... I couldn't find disks then... and that was the 90s... good
luck.
Warner
>
The Zenith MiniSport? I've got one, with about 7 minidisks.
Sellam
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 5:26 PM Warner Losh via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 6:17 PM Chris via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> > You read it right. I think only Zenith and Fujifilm made them.
> >
>
> Years
There were a few other, incompatible ones!
I remember a cheap word processor with a 2.5" disk with a spiral track!
But, the Zenith (Mini-sport?) was the common one.
There were also 2.9"
and, of course, for PC there were 3", 3.25", 3.5", and IBM almost came out
with a 3.9"!
On Sun, 22 Jan 20
On 1/21/23 11:35, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/20/23 22:11, Mike Stein wrote:
FWIW, I just received a Gotek last week and it uses an AT32F415.
Aw shucks, that's not inspiring at all. F4 core, but only 32KB of SRAM.
Probably is cheaper than the usual STM32F107.
The 2022 Goteks use
On 1/21/23 20:40, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> There were a few other, incompatible ones!
> I remember a cheap word processor with a 2.5" disk with a spiral track!
Smith Corona Data Disk--I did a decoder for one of those (Mitsumi?) for
a forensics client. Used a 2650 USART in sync mode with a b
There were a few other, incompatible ones!
I remember a cheap word processor with a 2.5" disk with a spiral track!
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Smith Corona Data Disk--I did a decoder for one of those (Mitsumi?) for
a forensics client. Used a 2650 USART in sync mode with
I saw it at Comdex, and then never again.
Nintendo Famicom disk system uses some kind of odd sized not swure disk.
--
: Ethan O'Toole
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
Nintendo Famicom disk system uses some kind of odd sized not swure disk.
Is that the same 2.8"? Mitsumi "Quick Disk" floppy used in the Smith
Corona Word Processor?
On 1/21/23 23:23, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
>> Nintendo Famicom disk system uses some kind of odd sized not swure disk.
>
> Is that the same 2.8"? Mitsumi "Quick Disk" floppy used in the Smith
> Corona Word Processor?
>
I believe so--at least the Fa
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