RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Alan Turing used the Teletypes on the Manchester MK1 to write letters. I doubt he had any software, just typed, perhaps using paper tape to edit. Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > Guzis via cctalk > Sent: 11 September 201

Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
For a change, rather than a request for help, here¹s a success story: I managed to bring a Convex C220 (dual vector CPU mini supercomputer from 1988) back to life. Both CPUs are working, but I¹m running with a single CPU because of the power it draws with two CPUs. Next challenges: the Convex C1, a

RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Wade > via cctalk > Sent: 11 September 2017 10:28 > To: 'Chuck Guzis' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel

RIP Jerry Pournelle - Firsts

2017-09-11 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
He seems to have been the first to mention ARPANET in a popular hobbyist-type context like BYTE. (Leading him to get kicked off ARPANET!) Tim

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2017-09-11 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3223131/it-industry/nice-work-if-you-can-get-it.html -- Jim Brain br...@jbrain.com www.jbrain.com

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Ian S. King via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > For a change, rather than a request for help, here¹s a success story: I > managed to bring a Convex C220 (dual vector CPU mini supercomputer from > 1988) back to life. Both CPUs are working, but I¹m r

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 09/10/2017 06:25 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: > >> There was one of those machines in my Junior High School shop >> classroom. I saw it run once (not well enough to successfully set a >> line of type, but nearly). >>

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 08:47 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote: > Now I¹m looking for some FORTRAN code that would typically have run > on this kind of computer so I can show people what this kind of > system was used for. Congratulations! I'd recommend starting with LINPACK: http://www.netlib.o

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 11:09 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > No, not kerning. Justifying. Linotype machines can't kern; when that's done > in metal typesetting, which is rare, it involves cutting bevels onto the > sides of the type blocks to allow them to partly overlap. You're correct; I misstated the proce

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 09/11/2017 08:47 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote: > >> Now I¹m looking for some FORTRAN code that would typically have run >> on this kind of computer so I can show people what this kind of >> system was used for. >

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello, in my experience SMD components doesn't need a presoldering operation at all, because pins are already stained or golded, thus very solderable. Plus the extra heat could let the pin move inside the plastic, or add somehow excessive thickness when positioned on the PCB. In my experience the b

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans via cctalk
The way a lady at my work did them was to crack out the bottom piece of the socket to give better access to the pins. She didn't typically put the bottom piece back in since we used the PLCC socket to plug into an emulator pod so there was no need for it (shoulder around the POD connector wouldn't

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 2:23 PM, shad via cctalk > wrote: > > Hello, > in my experience SMD components doesn't need a presoldering operation at > all, because pins are already stained or golded, thus very solderable > > Note: use lower temperatures (<380C, less is better), good quality f

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
leaded solder = AgPb alloy

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 9/11/2017 1:38 PM, Geoffrey Oltmans via cctalk wrote: The way a lady at my work did them was to crack out the bottom piece of the socket to give better access to the pins. She didn't typically put the bottom piece back in since we used the PLCC socket to plug into an emulator pod so there was

Re: Tips For Soldering a Surface Mount PLCC Socket

2017-09-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 01:52 PM, shad via cctalk wrote: leaded solder = AgPb alloy Uh, no, that would be Silver-Lead. Regular old solder was SnPb, that is Tin-Lead. Jon

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
Lincoln had ETAOIN on his personalized MN license plate (on the very well worn Ford full size van he drove) and another guy had SHRDLU on his plates. I was told that the name came from this string which could be found in printed works and that people had always seen it but just read past it beca

Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a microcomputer

2017-09-11 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. As a historian is it worth the aggravation to please everyone? Does revisionism take away the honour(Cdn. Here!) Jerry Pournelle rightly deserves for pioneering work in our beloved computing gen

Re: Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a microcomputer

2017-09-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. It is EMPHASIS of individual words and phrases. THIS IS SHOUTING! FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE! As a historian is it worth the aggrava

Re: Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a microcomputer

2017-09-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >> Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a >> MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. > > It is EMPHASIS of individual words and phrases. > THIS IS SHOUTING! FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE! Zippy the Pinhead

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle - Firsts

2017-09-11 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > He seems to have been the first to mention ARPANET in a popular hobbyist-type > context like BYTE. (Leading him to get kicked off ARPANET!) Yes I remember reading something like that too. I would like to know the story of that. Mu

ETAOIN SHRDLU (Was: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a

2017-09-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Etaoin Shrdlu was most importantly one of Walt Kelly's characters in Pogo. ETAOIN SHRDLU ETA name On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: I was told that the name came from this string which could be found in printed works and that people had always seen it but just read past it

Re: ETAOIN SHRDLU (Was: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a

2017-09-11 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > (It is sometimes stated that Sholes deliberately chose QWERTY to slow down > typists to the speeds that the early typewriters could handle; that story > has been challenged, but a replacement story of how that layout was chosen > has

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 07:22 PM, Chris Elmquist wrote: > Lincoln had ETAOIN on his personalized MN license plate (on the very well > worn Ford full size van he drove) and another guy had SHRDLU on his plates. > > I was told that the name came from this string which could be found in > printed works and t

Re: ETAOIN SHRDLU (Was: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 08:35 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Etaoin Shrdlu was most importantly one of Walt Kelly's characters in Pogo. > > ETAOIN SHRDLU ETA name > On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: >> I was told that the name came from this string which could be found in >> printe

Re: Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a microcomputer

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 07:28 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a > MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. As a historian is it worth > the aggravation to please everyone? Does revisionism take away the > honour(Cdn. Here!) Jerry Pournel

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Ethan via cctalk
managed to bring a Convex C220 (dual vector CPU mini supercomputer from 1988) back to life. Both CPUs are working, but I¹m running with a single CPU because of the power it draws with two CPUs. Next challenges: the Convex C1, and quad vector processor C240 (not before I¹ve upgraded the power feed)

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctech wrote: > For a change, rather than a request for help, here¹s a success story: I > managed to bring a Convex C220 (dual vector CPU mini supercomputer from > 1988) back to life. Both CPUs are working, but I¹m running with a single > CPU because of the power it draws w

markup vs. word processing [ was RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...]

2017-09-11 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
I met Jerry once, at a BYTE-sponsored conference held at McCormick Place in Chicago. Colorful. I already knew his writing, of course. He will be missed. Now: From: Guy Sotomayor Jr Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:59 PM > I think it all depends upon how you define “word processing”. For me

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Laurens Vets via cctalk
On 2017-09-11 08:47, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctech wrote: For a change, rather than a request for help, here¹s a success story: I managed to bring a Convex C220 (dual vector CPU mini supercomputer from 1988) back to life. Both CPUs are working, but I¹m running with a single CPU because of the

Re: markup vs. word processing [ was RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Earl...]

2017-09-11 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > I didn't think of it as word processing, but I did something similar at Ohio > State in 1974... Hi, Rich, Did we ever discuss when you were at OSU? I know I've had conversations with Herb Johnson about when he worked at OSU. I

Re: Convex C220 lives

2017-09-11 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Laurens Vets via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> > There's something seriously wrong with your site > http://www.vaxbarn.com/index.php/other-bits/603-convex-c220 unless the > title of your work is indeed "Feel Like Having Sex Tonight | Best Legal > Viag

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle - Firsts

2017-09-11 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Charles Dickman via cctalk writes: >> He seems to have been the first to mention ARPANET in a popular >> hobbyist-type context like BYTE. (Leading him to get kicked off >> ARPANET!) > Yes I remember reading something like that too. I would like to know > the story of that. You should probably ask