Re: Commodore C2N datasette belts (was Re: Classics long overdue a Boot.)

2016-05-29 Thread drlegendre .
@ All I'm working on a deal for a batch of these.. so hold on to your hats / wallets for a little while, and we should have something to work with. On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Jason T wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Ethan Dicks > wrote: > > Thanks for your offer of assistance.

RE: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brent > Hilpert > Sent: 29 May 2016 02:50 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Monster 6502 > > On 2016-May-28, at 6:22 PM, drlegendre . wrote: > > > > Could someone al

RE: Mystery IBM processor

2016-05-29 Thread Malcolm Macleod
Mike / Dave / Paul, Thanks for the responses. It does look a lot like the processor photo on Jim Austin's IBM 3084 page. I can't see any FRU numbers on any of the modules, so this is probably as far as we can go in chasing it down for the time being. I might be able to get some more clues fr

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Mike Ross
On May 29, 2016 2:44 PM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: > > > From: drlegendre > > > Gawd, what a lovely piece of work that man hath wrought! > > I love the term he invented for it: "dis-integrated circuit"! :-) > > > Good FAQ page here: > > http://www.monster6502.com/ > > My favourite entry: > >

Re: PC/AT "power good" problems

2016-05-29 Thread Richard Cini
Chuck – My wording was probably less than precise, but “never comes out of reset” means that it never POSTs. Nothing on the screen. No cursor. No boot message. No BASIC. Keyboard does reset though (I see the three LEDs blink on, then off). I watched for a good 5 minutes before giving up

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread dwight
DRam is technically no slower to read than static. It is the house keeping functions that cost time. Typically the floating nets are designed to hold data for over 2 milliseconds. At todays higher speed processors, the refresh time is hardly noticed. As for the processors of this time, the primary

Re: PC/AT "power good" problems

2016-05-29 Thread dwight
Power to a load tester is not the same as power in a system. It is likely that one of the other voltages, other than 5V is being loaded down with a shorted tantalum capacitor in the system. I doubt there is a problem with the supply. Dwight From: cctalk o

Re: PC/AT "power good" problems

2016-05-29 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 10:30 AM 5/29/2016, Dwight wrote: >Power to a load tester is not the same as power in a system. That is why I never use a load tester. I built a system with a set of adaptors that lets me measure voltage and current, and check for ripple and noise with an oscilloscope, for each output of a p

Re: PC/AT "power good" problems

2016-05-29 Thread Richard Cini
Thanks guys. Looks like some detailed work to do on the mobo. Anyone want to buy a lost tester cheap? Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > > At 10:30 AM 5/29/2016, Dwight wrote: > >> Power to a load tester is not the same as power in a system. > > That i

Re: AT&T 5620 (Blit/DMD) software

2016-05-29 Thread Al Kossow
"Shattered" has been working on this. I assume you know about his SIMH simulator and how he's getting frustrated with nothing being available. http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=105737&Searchpage=1&Main=7894&Words=shattered&Search=true#Post105737 On 5/28/16 2:15 PM, Se

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Liam Proven
On 29 May 2016 at 11:13, Mike Ross wrote: > I'm sure I read of someone who was implementing an entire CPU as discrete > components on an even larger size... there were racks of the thing; it took > up most of a room. > > But I can't find the link http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~harry/Relay/ ...?

Re: Mystery IBM processor

2016-05-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/28/2016 05:45 PM, Malcolm Macleod wrote: Mike / Dave / Paul, Thanks for the responses. It does look a lot like the processor photo on Jim Austin's IBM 3084 page. Wow, this has to have cost IBM $250K or more. Maybe MUCH more, as it is the WHOLE processor system. I wonder if anybody is

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/29/2016 04:13 AM, Mike Ross wrote: I'm sure I read of someone who was implementing an entire CPU as discrete components on an even larger size... there were racks of the thing; it took up most of a room. But I can't find the link Mike There's a guy in Germany who did one, using all S

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-May-29, at 2:13 AM, Mike Ross wrote: > On May 29, 2016 2:44 PM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: >> >>> From: drlegendre >> >>> Gawd, what a lovely piece of work that man hath wrought! >> >> I love the term he invented for it: "dis-integrated circuit"! :-) >> >> >> Good FAQ page here: >> >> ht

Re: Front panel switches - what did they do?

2016-05-29 Thread Lionel Johnson
On 28/05/2016 11:27 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: Thanks Lionel, You just helped me start a new list! Hi Paul, and others You have stimulated me to drag out a couple more useful programs - basic stuff, I used them to demo to students, and get them started. Also the practical side to check

Re: TI Professional Computer (TIPC) Service Manual?

2016-05-29 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/28/16 1:42 PM, Martin Peters wrote: > The TIPC is an early, not really compatible clone of the IBM PC 5150. I > wonder if I need to do some reengineering and/or disassembling or if > there is a service manual out there. > I bought a copy last year. It doesn't look like I've scanned it yet

TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mattis Lind
I have been fiddling with a TU58-EX device, dual TU58 drives in a small box. The capstans is replaced. I used silicone tubing which I glued on and then sanded down a bit. PVC tubing in a size that would fit seems to be unavailable in Sweden. The two capstans were a little bit different in diamet

NEC ProSpeed 386

2016-05-29 Thread Chris Hanson
I just acquired an NEC ProSpeed 386 portable from WeirdStuff. http://imgur.com/a/vUTvd The system boots fine off floppy, and after running the setup program—that can still be downloaded from NEC America’s FTP site!—I was able to boot DOS and Windows 3.11 from the inte

Re: TI Professional Computer (TIPC) Service Manual?

2016-05-29 Thread Martin Peters
Hi Al! Al Kossow: > > On 5/28/16 1:42 PM, Martin Peters wrote: > > > The TIPC is an early, not really compatible clone of the IBM PC 5150. I > > wonder if I need to do some reengineering and/or disassembling or if > > there is a service manual out there. > > I bought a copy last year. It doesn't

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/29/16 10:03 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > Would it be possible to use a Floppy Tape (QIC-117) tape drive to read > them? No. The heads are movable on floppy tapes, and the format is completely different. If you send me your address, I can send you a chunk of tubing that Brad Parker and I hav

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mark J. Blair
My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my TU58 rollers was also unsuccessful. Maybe the material I used is too soft? Your experience suggests to me that I should hook up an oscilloscope to measure bit timing, and then adjust the roller composition and diameter to arrive close to the c

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/29/16 11:34 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my TU58 rollers was also > unsuccessful. Maybe the material I used is too soft? Your experience suggests > to me that I should hook up an oscilloscope to measure bit timing, and then > adjust the roll

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-05-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 Al Kossow : > > > On 5/29/16 10:03 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > > Would it be possible to use a Floppy Tape (QIC-117) tape drive to read > > them? > > No. The heads are movable on floppy tapes, and the format is completely > different. > Yes. I am aware of that. But that

RE: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Paul Birkel
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:00 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: TU58 yet one more time. On 5/29/16 11:34 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my T

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-05-29 20:34 GMT+02:00 Mark J. Blair : > My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my TU58 rollers was also > unsuccessful. Maybe the material I used is too soft? Your experience > suggests to me that I should hook up an oscilloscope to measure bit timing, > and then adjust the roller

Re: AT&T 5620 (Blit/DMD) software

2016-05-29 Thread Seth Morabito
If I may follow up to my own post here, I've done some experiments, and made some discoveries. I first installed "DMD Core Utilities 2.0". The demo programs all work beautifully in stand-alone mode (not running under Layers). But when I try to fire up /usr/dmd/bin/layers, the 3B2 crashes _hard_.

Re: AT&T 5620 (Blit/DMD) software

2016-05-29 Thread Seth Morabito
* On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 08:18:13AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote: > "Shattered" has been working on this. I assume you know about his SIMH > simulator > and how he's getting frustrated with nothing being available. Absolutely, he's been contributing patches back to my 3B2 simulator project. His wor

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2016-05-29 Thread wulfman
http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the named a

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2016-05-29 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are intended

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century

2016-05-29 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 5/29/2016 7:02 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view -- The contents of

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2016-05-29 Thread wulfman
I figured some of you might have had an interest. Excuse me if i was wrong. On 5/29/2016 5:02 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: >> http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hack

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Mike Ross
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 05/29/2016 04:13 AM, Mike Ross wrote: >> >> I'm sure I read of someone who was implementing an entire CPU as discrete >> components on an even larger size... there were racks of the thing; it took >> up most of a room. But I can't find the lin

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2016-05-29 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: I figured some of you might have had an interest. Excuse me if i was wrong. WITH a sentence or so of commentary. An email with NO content other than a URL and an impersonal signature, but no personal description, and with a subject line of the URL looks mo

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2016-05-29 Thread Evan Koblentz
http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view Did you have anything to say about it? Or are you just dumping a URL on us? Oh come on. He didn'

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2016-05-29 Thread Fred Cisin
http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view Did you have anything to say about it? Or are you just dumping a URL on us? On Sun, 29 May 2016,

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2016-05-29 Thread wulfman
You either have a stick up your ass, are too stupid to know the difference between a malware link and a real link OR both. Now go back to your worrying about the 0.1% of links that contain malware. On 5/29/2016 5:48 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletype

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2016-05-29 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: You either have a stick up your ass, are too stupid to know the difference between a malware link and a real link OR both. Now go back to your worrying about the 0.1% of links that contain malware. I'm glad to hear it. OK, initially, I was glad that you'

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century

2016-05-29 Thread jwsmobile
On 5/29/2016 5:15 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: Wulf: this link would have worked as well : "http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century"; Tangent: is it true as written that *all* "teletypes speak 5-bit ITA2 code "?

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2016-05-29 Thread wulfman
I did not start the fire. On 5/29/2016 6:43 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: >> You either have a stick up your ass, are too stupid to know the >> difference between a malware link and a real link OR >> both. >> Now go back to your worrying about the 0.1% of links t

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?...

2016-05-29 Thread COURYHOUSE
I will comment... make anything talk to a tty. The designer is wonderful. Keep him encouraged. I like to see people actually doing something ! We are implementing thee boards in some of our in house displays at the SMECC museum and several offsite journalism displays incorporating

Finally! Opened my TeleVideo TPC-1

2016-05-29 Thread Ian S. King
Hi all, A while back I asked if anyone knew how to open the case of this early luggable, and there were crickets. Well, I pulled it out today with the intention of poking and prodding, and I magically got it to open! There's a top piece that is fastened to the front bezel with two apparent screws

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century

2016-05-29 Thread COURYHOUSE
it converts codes send and recv... 5 to 8 8 to 5? can preprogram messages in stand alone mode and more... when I see things like this and giant 6502my faith in things is renewed ed In a message dated 5/29/2016 6:52:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, j

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century

2016-05-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/29/2016 08:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote: On 5/29/2016 5:15 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: Wulf: this link would have worked as well : "http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century"; Tangent: is it true as written that *all* "teletypes speak 5-bit ITA2 code

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2016-05-29 Thread Adrian Stoness
brilliant :) thanks On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 8:54 PM, wulfman wrote: > I did not start the fire. > > > On 5/29/2016 6:43 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Sun, 29 May 2016, wulfman wrote: > >> You either have a stick up your ass, are too stupid to know the > >> difference between a malware link and a

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2016-05-29 Thread Jason Scott
If rockets ran on butthurt, we be colonizing Mars. And I'd have some awesome candidates for the first round. On May 30, 2016 09:32, "Evan Koblentz" wrote: > >>> http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hack

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2016-05-29 Thread William Donzelli
> You either have a stick up your ass, are too stupid to know the > difference between a malware link and a real link OR > both. There are a lot of ways that malware links can slip through. My eyes are getting old and failing, so that some m's and look like n's. or There is a smudge on my scree

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century

2016-05-29 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 05/29/2016 07:09 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > ASR33 is an 8-bit machine. The 5-level machine is a 32. Used lots for sending Telex and whatnot back in the day. Conversion between 7-level and 5-level is a bit messy; the LTRS/FIGS thing. --Chuck

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2016-05-29 Thread Jason Scott
Special shout-out to the two well-meaning buttercups who emailed me off list to mansplain me about how to conduct myself in an arena that appears to have the emotional stability of a brain-damaged toddler. On May 30, 2016 11:28, "Jason Scott" wrote: > If rockets ran on butthurt, we be colonizing

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2016-05-29 Thread Jay West
Top posting because It takes two (at least) to start it, and you certainly played your part. While it is not "forbidden" to just post a URL without any explanation, it would be a good idea to include something with it so that we know if we want to click on it or not. Otherwise, it's going to

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2016-05-29 Thread Jay West
Keep it friendly. The last few posts on this do not comply. Last warning -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jason Scott Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:39 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: http://hacka

Re: vintage computers in active use

2016-05-29 Thread Alan Perry
On 5/27/16 7:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: It hasn't seen battle yet (and I hope it doesn't have to) but I'm a little worried about the fact that it's beaten (badly) in simulations and exercises with much older fighter aircraft with much more "primitive" tech, including Russian aircr

Xerox Star install floppies

2016-05-29 Thread David Griffith
Over the past six months or so, I've been selling install floppies for the Xerox 8010 Star. I had no idea if I had a full set or not. I'd just put together a set of as many unique floppies that I could find from my stash. Then last week I was asked if I had a full set. This person then stat

Re: http://hackaday.com/2016/05/29/dragging-teletypes-into-the-21st-century

2016-05-29 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 29 May 2016 at 20:15, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > Tangent: is it true as written that *all* "teletypes speak 5-bit ITA2 code > "? > As Ed, Jon, and Chuck said; no not *all* teletypes speak 5-bit code. The "most common" machines in the classic comp

Re: Monster 6502

2016-05-29 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:42:30AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > > There's a guy in Germany who did one, using all SMT parts. Could it be Dieters MT15 you are thinking of? Quite inspiring project: http://6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15.htm http://6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15_cpu_front.jpg /P