Re: Collectors pay big money for old tech

The down side is that some historically significant artifacts will be purchased by rich twits who will stick them in a closet or a display case. The up side is that those same artifacts didn't go to the skip, as they did all too often, all too recently. And history demonstrates that they will come

PDP-8/e Panel Differences

Hi Guy's The current debate has produced a growing list of differences between the front panels of just one model viz and towit the PDP-8/e Here's my list so far 1. Angle of selector switch positions 1 and 6 can change (change of switch detent angle) 2. The line around

Re: PDP-8/S

> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM. > The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion chassis for an 8/S. > Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but: S/N 127, Table Top, running, Sold on eBay 07/2003 for more than $3,000. Rhode Island Comput

Re: PDP-8/S

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 15:20:59 -0400 couryho...@aol.com wrote: > ok lets start a list of them by s/n and for those that have > surviving sales docs let us place sales dates with them to give > an snapshot sales volume and time. > I am going to try to get ours out of the tombs to sp

Re: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

Michael, David's product is outstanding! He also makes new foams for the inside alsofor the model 33 and 32 - Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/7/2015 6:58:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, michael.99.thomp...@gmail.com writes: W contacted

Re: PDP-8/S

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:11:21 -0400 Michael Thompson wrote: > > I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM. > > The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion chassis for > > an 8/S. > > > > Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but: > > S/N 127, Tabl

RE: PDP-8/S

From: Michael Thompson Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:11 PM > Living Computer Museum > Two, unrestored > http://www.pdpplanet.com ^ That address has not been current since 2010 or so. Please use http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org instead. Thanks!

Re: PDP-8/S

I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM. Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but: If somebody were to try to make a "complete" list, it would make sense to provide variable levels of anonymity, such as name but not contact info, state but no name, em

Re: PDP-8/S

I have one, restored, was running when stored but not powered up in some considerable time. Serial number unknown; IIRC correctly the tag with the serial number was missing so may remain unknown. Obtained from a collector called Erik in... Netherlands I think, circa 2004... who got it from John B

Re: PDP-8/S

On 6/10/15 12:11 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM. Last I heard, John Bordynuik still had one or two of them, but I haven't spoken to him in years.

Re: Looking for the Tek 465 of Logic Analysers

Hi Ken, I think that's a pretty good overview but just wanted to add a few notes: * The HP16500A (obsolete) ran completely from (DS/DD) floppies. There were two drives; one in front and one in back. The 16500A is capable of running only a limited subset of cards that were ultimately produced for

Re: X11 expertise on ancient HW sought... (4-plane visual (overlay) via X-server on MS-WIndows)

On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 08:24:31PM +0200, IMAP List Administration wrote: > [also posted to comp.graphics.x today] > > Hello Folks, > > I'm trying to get an application that currently uses a local display > on an ancient DEC Alpha workstation with a (for the time) > mid-to-high-end graphics contr

Re: PDP-8/S

Michael - Many thanks for the great start! Lyle ok added yours.. neat you have it working! what is the status of his other unit that was sold? ok here starts the registry ! Have started on for classic 8 and one for 8S It would be good to have some assistance in fig

Re: PDP-8/S

ok added! thanks Mike! In a message dated 6/10/2015 2:24:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, tmfdm...@gmail.com writes: I have one, restored, was running when stored but not powered up in some considerable time. Serial number unknown; IIRC correctly the tag with the serial number was mis

Re: PDP-8/S

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:43:51 -0400 couryho...@aol.com wrote: > Michael - Many thanks for the great start! > > Lyle ok added yours.. neat you have it working! > what is the status of his other unit that was sold? It's owned by another collector on this list. I suspect they'll add their

Re: PDP-8/S

Fred yes all valid. if we are to put them in the registry though we have to be sure that have one if they go nameless. like if we get a response like: my name is rick I have s/n 2 Ok we need a entry template for info that can be spread sheeted.. of course an

Re: PDP-8/S

On 6/10/2015 4:19 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:43:51 -0400 couryho...@aol.com wrote: Michael - Many thanks for the great start! Lyle ok added yours.. neat you have it working! what is the status of his other unit that was sold? It's owned by another collector on t

Re: PDP-8/S

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Fred yes all valid. if we are to put them in the registry though we have to be sure that have one if they go nameless. like if we get a response like: my name is rick I have s/n 2 OK, there would need to be SOME contact bac

Re: PDP-8/S

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 03:11:21PM -0400, Michael Thompson wrote: >Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but: Didn't see mine on there. PDP-8/S, serial # unknown (it's in storage), needs restoration. I got it in Michigan about 20 years ago. John Wilson D Bit

Re: PDP-8/S

John Wilson has a PDP-8/S in storage, unknown serial #, needs restoration. He got it in Michigan about 20 years ago. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:43 PM, wrote: > Michael - Many thanks for the great start! > > Lyle ok added yours.. neat you have it working! > what is the status of his other

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

> > Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and > massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted > OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since > buying the machine. Woohoo! > Excellent! > > For some reason, I was una

Re: PDP-8/e Panel Differences

From: Rod Smallwood: Friday, June 12, 2015 1:51 AM The current debate has produced a growing list of differences between the front panels of just one model viz and towit the PDP-8/e Here's my list so far ... It would be nice to be able to correlate the one list with the other Su

Wierd reply addresses

There seem to be a number of messages from various folks where the reply address has been rewritten to gene...@classiccmp.org;discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; instead of General discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; What is that about? Could it be re

Re: PDP-8/e Panel Differences

Yes most helpful Vince. The multitude of variants did rarther surprise me. As you say the switch change does have to be catered for. (its now a C or a D) I have had one very good scan of a B panel in from a prospective client with yet another variation. The title header for the EMA

Re: Need DZQ11 (M3106) Print Set

> From: Paul Anderson > OK, I have 10+ of the M3106 and M3107 boards The M3106 is the DZQ11; the M3107 is the DHQ11, a completely different beast (a sister to the DHV11, the quad version of the DHQ11, the dual version). We already have complete documents online for the DHQ11 (UG, TM and

Re: PDP-8/S

> From: Fred Cisin > If somebody were to try to make a "complete" list, it would make sense > to provide variable levels of anonymity > ... > Prob'ly some people would be more willing to discuss what they have IFF > they aren't opening themselves to theft risk, and/or a de

Re: Wierd reply addresses

On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > There seem to be a number of messages from various folks > where the reply address has been rewritten to > gene...@classiccmp.org;discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts; > instead of > General discuss...@classiccmp.org:O

IBM 9335 doc needed.

Hi, I am currently restoring an IBM 9370. The IPL drive needs to be re-initted. (The diag track fails.) How to do this I need the IBM 9335-A01 SERVICE GUIDE (probably SY33-0113, but not sure) Who can help me with a copy of this manual ? Regards Henk

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 04:01, Peter Coghlan wrote: > > If the machine just sits there indefinately after loading the MSCP disk > server, > you probably don't have enough cluster votes to proceed and the best thing to > do is perform a conversational boot which usually involves setting the least

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Found this: http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1078 Unfortunately, console halt isn't implemented on the 725/730, so I think a hard power off is my only option. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730? On 12 June 2015 at 15:44, Mark J. Blair wrote: > Found this: > > http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1078 > > Unfortunately, console halt isn't implemented on the 725/730, so I think a > hard power off is my only option. > > > -- >

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

> > Thanks, that works! I also turned off write lock, which makes it happier. > Great :-) > > Wow, that boot sure takes forever. What the heck is it *doing* for all of > that time? :) > If you want speed, you need an Alpha, not a VAX :-) There could be all sorts of stuff in the startup file (SY

Re: Wierd reply addresses

On 2015-06-12 16:16, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: There seem to be a number of messages from various folks where the reply address has been rewritten to gene...@classiccmp.org;discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; instead of Gen

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On 2015-06-12 17:00, Peter Coghlan wrote: Thanks, that works! I also turned off write lock, which makes it happier. Great :-) Great indeed. Fun that you can even get 7.3 running on that old hardware. I don't think that it was officially supported, but I would have been surprised if it out

Re: [Simh] [HECnet] Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

Aw, chucks. After reading the other day about someone who was talking about VMS and the wish for DHCP, I actually decided that it was time that BQTCP/IP also got DHCP. So, without further ado - I cut a new release. One bugfix for a bug in the TCP state machine, which could get stuck, but othe

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 07:57, Antonio Carlini wrote: > > Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730? It brings up the console prompt, but the (H)alt command just prints the PC rather than triggering a halt on the 725/730. Next time I work on the system (Tonight? Or maybe

Re: Wierd reply addresses

From: Chris Osborn: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:16 AM On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: There seem to be a number of messages from various folks where the reply address has been rewritten to ... What is that about? Could it be related to me getting delayed second copies of st

Re: Wierd reply addresses

On Jun 12, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > OK, though I'm unclear why a mail client would be rewriting the line > (as opposed to just copying it around). Because the mail client doesn’t know that it’s rewriting it, it thinks it found two email addresses. -- Follow me on twitter:

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! Now about VMS distros

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: > Eventually, I'd like to run an older version of VMS than 7.3 on it. > Preferably, something contemporary to when the 11/730 was still sold, or Gday Mark, it has been a long time since Rodondo Beach. Our VAX-11/780 came with VAX/VMS Version 2 on it and

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! Now about VMS distros

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 08:48, Richard Loken > wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> Eventually, I'd like to run an older version of VMS than 7.3 on it. >> Preferably, something contemporary to when the 11/730 was still sold, or > > Gday Mark, it has been a long time since R

Re: Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

Argh. And no matter how much you test things, there is always something you might miss. If anyone already downloaded the new dist, please pick the new version I just cut. There is an error in the generated IPINS command file when using DHCP, which cause it to not work right. Johnny On

Amiga Fans

+1 to you Amiga fans http://woodtv.com/2015/06/11/1980s-computer-controls-grps-heat-and-ac/ I love the part about the high school student who originally programmed it and still maintains it to this day!

RE: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

> Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and > massaged into a usable state > by another list member, I just booted OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my > VAX-11/730 for the first time since > buying the machine. Woohoo! Well done. The 11/730 is, to me, an inte

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

I don't remember exactly what I have, but the binders that came with my system might include an R80 manual (to be scanned, of course!). -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! Now about VMS distros

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > > On Jun 12, 2015, at 08:48, Richard Loken > > wrote: > > Gday Mark, it has been a long time since Rodondo Beach. > Great to hear from you again! Still have those ARS33 teletypes? I must > say, when I decided I needed to be an ASR33 owner again a ye

RE: Looking for the Tek 465 of Logic Analysers

> * The HP 16500B and 16500C use a different '030 based logic board and also [...] > * Generally anything the "C" can do, the "B" can do and vice versa. The big > difference between the two is that they switched from HP-HIL peripherals on > the "B" to standard PS/2 peripherals on the "C", if you w

Re: Amiga Fans

Hehe, I read about this a few minutes ago after receiving a message about it on another email list. It'll go viral around all the Amiga forums and lists over the next few days :) Regards, Andrew Burton aliensrcoo...@yahoo.co.uk www.aliensrcooluk.com - Original Message - From: "Peter

RE: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

> I don't remember exactly what I have, but the binders that came with my > system might include an R80 manual (to > be scanned, of course!). Bitsavers has the service manual, pocket service guide and printset. The service manual is, as I would expect, a module replacement level manual. It is

Re: PDP-8/S

> > If somebody were to try to make a "complete" list, it would make sense > > to provide variable levels of anonymity > > ... > > Prob'ly some people would be more willing to discuss what they have IFF > > they aren't opening themselves to theft risk, and/or a deluge of "I'd >

Need help: Reading 800 bpi NRZI 9 track tapes

My Qualstar 3418 has gone kaput and I need to find someone to read single (Unix) tape written on a TU16 at 800 BPI. I can handle 1600, 3200 and 6250 just fine, but not 800. Would anyone in the US be willing to help out? I can ship some money your way if that matters. The tape has been baked

Re: Need help: Reading 800 bpi NRZI 9 track tapes

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 14:54 , Chuck Guzis wrote: > > My Qualstar 3418 has gone kaput and I need to find someone to read single > (Unix) tape written on a TU16 at 800 BPI. I can handle 1600, 3200 and 6250 > just fine, but not 800. > > Would anyone in the US be willing to help out? I can ship

Re: Need help: Reading 800 bpi NRZI 9 track tapes

On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 12, 2015, at 14:54 , Chuck Guzis wrote: My Qualstar 3418 has gone kaput and I need to find someone to read single (Unix) tape written on a TU16 at 800 BPI. I can handle 1600, 3200 and 6250 just fine, but not 800. Would anyone in the US b

Re: Looking for the Tek 465 of Logic Analysers

Yes, the documentation of the HP 1630 series is phenomenal. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:52 PM, tony duell wrote: > > > * The HP 16500B and 16500C use a different '030 based logic board and > also > [...] > > * Generally anything the "C" can do, the "B" can do and vice versa. The > big > > differen

Re: PDP-8/S

been told of one in winnipeg. havent seen it to confirm though (winnipeg canada) thats still in use On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > > > If somebody were to try to make a "complete" list, it would make > sense > > > to provide variable levels of anonymity > >

ISO: Sun lunchbox vertical stand

Last year or so someone offered up one or two vertical stands for Sun lunchbox chassis. I put my hand up for one and never heard more about it. Might that original person still have the stands? Does anyone else have some stands available? -- David Griffith d...@661.org A: Because it fouls

Re: Need help: Reading 800 bpi NRZI 9 track tapes

Might check with Al over at CHM - I have been told he has every format known to man covered. Ed# SMECC.org In a message dated 6/12/2015 4:02:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ccl...@sydex.com writes: On 06/12/2015 03:23 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> On Jun 12, 2015, at 14:54 ,

Re: Looking for the Tek 465 of Logic Analysers

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > * Generally anything the "C" can do, the "B" can do and vice versa. The 16500C can accept the 16533A and 16534A DSO options, while the 16500B cannot. The 16500A, B, C, 16600 series, 16700 series, and 16900 series each support different subsets

Re: Ebay GT-40 in the Netherlands

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rik Bos wrote: >> The seller is Erik Brent. > > Isn't that the guy that [...] I was asking, not asserting as fact, but Erik Brens sent me email and apparently disputes the claims that I'd heard. I definitely d