Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > The parity change in the CPU was to change parity errors from vectoring > thru location 4 to vector through 114. Yes, but also, there was apparently rework of logic feeding the CONF console flag and associated abort signaling. Before the

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/31/2019 12:02 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > > I don't actually have anything that uses the M8110; I am mostly interested in > that one to understand how it co-evolved with the parity changes in the CPU > (sometimes its easier to understand if you can see both sides). > >cheer

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk > wrote: > > On 1/31/2019 12:02 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > > >> >> I don't actually have anything that uses the M8110; I am mostly interested >> in that one to understand how it co-evolved with the parity changes in the >> C

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I have completed my transcription of what I felt would be the most > salient entries and information in those entries of the PDP-11/45 > DEC-O-Logs. > > The transcripts are available on my Google Drive at > > https://drive.google.com/open?

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
I have completed my transcription of what I felt would be the most salient entries and information in those entries of the PDP-11/45 DEC-O-Logs. Curiously, there were no entries at all for the KB11-D. The transcripts are available on my Google Drive at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwIS

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I am working on transcribing some DEC-O-Logs - more than are on > bitsavers that relate to the KB11-A and its cards. Oooh! I'm excited again! :-) > In the process, I came across KB11A-B0008 - which indicates that NPG, > PA, PB, LTC, ACLO

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/27/2019 6:40 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here > will know that I've gotten to some corners of my 11/45 CPU now that don't > match up with the commonly available engineering drawings. > > My /45 is an early se

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-30 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
OK, my scanning of PDP-11/45 materials is done, at least for now. Materials can be found on my Google Drive at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwISEQRWWFFdVpCZWFTZEU In sub folders pdf/dec/pdp11/1145 and .../memory Everything is both directories is new EXCEPT for PDP11_FP11-B_Floati

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> The first batch of scanning is done... 600dpi, CCITT Group 4 except for > the cover pages which are LZW. > > You will find them in my Google Drive at > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwISEQRWWFFdVpCZWFTZEU > > In subfolder pdf/dec/pdp11/1145 Thanks, Jay! I note with some amusement

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:26 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > E.g. my M8100 prints are dated 2/72, and none contain any entries in the > 'Revisions' block (lower left). However, they are marked as Rev. D, which is > newer than the KB11-A prints at Bitsaver, which are marked as Rev. C. So

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/27/2019 9:07 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > > Let me know what you want me to scan - should be able to get to it later > this week. > > JRJ > > > On 1/27/2019 6:40 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: >> Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here >> wi

Re: Oh Darn (Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought)

2019-01-29 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > Dang it - the dates fooled me. (blush) Sorry to get your hopes up, > Fritz. Oh, darn! Well, thanks anyway for taking a look. And so the search continues... The later revisions and other docs are still quite a nice find, and it would cer

Oh Darn (Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought)

2019-01-29 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
Dang it - the dates fooled me. (blush) Sorry to get your hopes up, Fritz. Here is some more accurate information: The first set: The first page (the directory) is actually 6/76 in the revisions block. It is *later* than the one on bitsavers. Interesting, though: it actually shows TW

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/27/2019 11:01 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > Hi Jay, > >> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:07 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> >> I think I can help some... I DO have earlier PDP-11/45 CPU drawings... > > Man, this list is the absolute best! > > The '72 KB11-A drawings would be most immediately usef

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
From: Jay Jaeger > Here is what I have for drawings: Wow. You have some very desirable stuff there! Let me point at a couple of things of particular interest: > B-TC-FP11-C-6 FP11-C (Print Set MP00038) December 75 > [M8126, M8127, M8128, M8129] AFAIK, prints for the FP11-C are

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-28 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Fritz Mueller > I would really like to track down any of the following resources: > - PDP 11/45 system engineering drawings *earlier* than those currently > available on bitsavers (Jun '74) My KB11-A prints have an 'overall' date of "4/76" (on the front page), but prints w

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-27 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
Hi Jay, > On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:07 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I think I can help some... I DO have earlier PDP-11/45 CPU drawings... Man, this list is the absolute best! The '72 KB11-A drawings would be most immediately useful. If you only have time for a subset of pages, I would find the sch

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-27 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
I think I can help some. I have a PDP-11/45 From U. Wisc. ECE that claims to be S/N 1525 . * I do NOT have an actual wire list, it seems, but I will hunt a bit more tomorrow or Tuesday. * I DO have earlier PDP-11/45 CPU drawings, but no ECO info Here is what I have for drawings: B-DD-11/45-

early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-27 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here will know that I've gotten to some corners of my 11/45 CPU now that don't match up with the commonly available engineering drawings. My /45 is an early serial number (#152). So far I've verified hardware differences o