On 5/1/16 1:36 PM, Lee Courtney wrote:
I have a vague recollection of this - have you reached out to Alan to
determine current status?
Lee C.
I actually ended up with Alan's 11/750 (which is now up and running,
thanks to help from people here), so I don't know if he's still
interested in runni
I just saw this was sent to the 750 email address I set up. I'll find the URL
this evening.
> On May 1, 2016, at 13:36, Lee Courtney wrote:
>
> I have a vague recollection of this - have you reached out to Alan to
> determine current status?
>
> Lee C.
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, To
I sold my VAX (and the buyer, Josh, has it running now!), but I am still
maintaining the registry. Only 4-5 people have sent me info.
I am away from my desk and don't have access to the URL/e-mail addr right now.
I will send it to you later.
alan
> On May 1, 2016, at 13:36, Lee Courtney wrot
I have a vague recollection of this - have you reached out to Alan to
determine current status?
Lee C.
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain
wrote:
> On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote:
>
>> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't
>> mind knowing who els
On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote:
Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't
mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you
are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com).
alan
Since I've heard of a few 11/750's having been
> Alan Perry [ape...@snowmoose.com] wrote:
> ... I was going to include a lot of 11/750-specific fields.
> Does it have a Unibus expansion cabinet?
That would apply to all 7xx VAXes, as well as many of the 8xxx family. I
don't think any others had a UBA option, but I could easily be wrong.
>Wh
On 7/10/15 10:10 AM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
Alan Perry [ape...@snowmoose.com] wrote:
... I was going to include a lot of 11/750-specific fields.
Does it have a Unibus expansion cabinet?
That would apply to all 7xx VAXes, as well as many of the 8xxx family. I
don't think any others had a UBA
>What control store does it have?
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you asking for the
> microcode revision? That would also apply to pretty much all VAXes.
>
>
Probably referring to the L0005 CPU Control Store vs. L0008 Patchable
Control Store. There's also a few types of L0008
In the registry that I was planning on creating, I was going to include
a lot of 11/750-specific fields. Does it have a Unibus expansion
cabinet? What control store does it have? From the responses that I have
received so far, I have already run into questions about what should be
listed as an
Isn't third world labor cheap enough to out-source Captcha answering in bulk?
Only if someone has a failure of imagination. Here’s the way the third-world
interface on that application will probably look:
“Exercises in applied colloquial English translation”
“Only 35 per hour"
:-(
lumosity.c
On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Isn't third world labor cheap enough to out-source Captcha answering in bulk?
Only if someone has a failure of imagination. Here’s the way the third-world
interface on that application will probably look:
“Exercises in applied colloquial Englis
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jay West wrote:
One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact
information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful)
then it's gonna become a target for SPAM.
Captcha?
Isn'y third world labor cheap enough to out-source Ca
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jay West wrote:
>>One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact
>> information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful)
>> then it's gonna become a target for SPAM.
> Captcha?
And if you add a simple question in plain engl
>Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done.
> Any
^
Chilling words. Are you TRYING to get Jay to withdraw his offer of hosting?
Hah. The classiccmp server is LAMP... so none of the above is a pro
>One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact
> information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful)
> then it's gonna become a target for SPAM.
Captcha?
J
Gotta give Rob credit for at least throwing something out there ... what
approach would you take?
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Toby Thain
wrote:
> On 2015-07-09 1:20 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>
>> But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and
>>>
>>
On 2015-07-09 1:20 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and
models.
Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any
^
Chilling words. Ar
> But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and
models.
Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any
volunteers ??? :-)
One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact
information (and it seems like it would need to in or
This may be hosted on the classiccmp server if you wish. There are already
plans afoot for a registry there that would include both public and private
listings, as well as measures to ensure entries that are desired to be
anonymous (but verified) can be presented as well. The initial idea was for
H
> I don't have any firm data, but I suspect it's way beyond that.
> Only among the people I know personally, and clubs, I'll probably be able to
> count around 20 (if not more). And that is a very small circle of people
> compared to the whole world.
Yes, the true number may be well beyond 1000. J
On 2015-07-09 15:13, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-07-09 5:28 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are
discriminating for no real reason.
Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one
mai
On 2015-07-09 5:28 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are
discriminating for no real reason.
Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one
maintainer then some limitations is probabl
On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are
discriminating for no real reason.
Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one
maintainer then some limitations is probably good.
But with an rdbms and a nice front then
On 2015-07-08 23:53, Sean Caron wrote:
I was wondering along those lines myself earlier this morning... I am
thinking, regardless of how many may have originally been produced, I bet
if you gathered up all the VAXen in the hands of collectors now; big and
small; bussed and bus-less, I bet you'd e
Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are
discriminating for no real reason.
Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one
maintainer then some limitations is probably good.
But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all
makes and models.
On 2015-07-08 19:21, Robert Armstrong wrote:
Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780?
Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-)
Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and
some of the 8000 machines.
The 8600 and 8650 are th
I was wondering along those lines myself earlier this morning... I am
thinking, regardless of how many may have originally been produced, I bet
if you gathered up all the VAXen in the hands of collectors now; big and
small; bussed and bus-less, I bet you'd end up with only a few hundred
machines, t
>
> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:25:01 +0100
> From: Antonio Carlini
> Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)
>
> If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and
> VAXstations should produce a list of VAXen
> that you probably ca
On 7/7/15 4:35 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote:
On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses
feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-)
If the intention is to avoid a huge list then
On 7/7/15 1:50 PM, tony duell wrote:
BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition?
I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be
restored, but
you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its
TU58 rollers
replac
How many microvaxen were made? I think that would be a lot more work,
wouldn't it?
alan
On 7/6/15 11:52 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
will this include micro vax also? Ed#
In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
Is there an
On 7/6/15 8:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote:
Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind
knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are
interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com).
On 7/8/15 12:59 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two
of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no
automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could req
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
> I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two
> of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no
> automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could require two, three or
> even four people
iscuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-
> > Topic Posts
> > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)
> >
> > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
> > >> Personally I think anything
>Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780?
Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-)
Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and
some of the 8000 machines.
Bob
I've never meet a full-size rack that didn't have casters ... otherwise
there'd be no way to move it around. :O There must have been? Of course,
you'd put the feet down once the equipment is situated.
Best,
Sean
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Toby Thain
wrote:
> On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred
And not consistent; under that criterion a BA123 or S-box would count but a
BA23-based system is disqualified, while the two could be identical systems
once you open up the card cage! No fair. :O
Best,
Sean
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wro
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Toby
Thain
> Sent: 08 July 2015 16:34
> To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-
> Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Cisin
> Sent: 08 July 2015 15:47
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul
On 2015-07-08 12:05 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
Personally I think anything with castors on
No.
I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters.
But,
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote:
>
> On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
>>> Personally I think anything with castors on
>>
>> No.
>> I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters.
>> But, it was nice to be able to
Oh yes they did! And screw down feet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=VAX#/media/File:SPEC-1_VAX_05.jpg
On 8 July 2015 at 16:34, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I think anything with castors on
>>>
>>
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 08:34, Toby Thain wrote:
>
> Plus I'm guessing (admittedly) that the Really Big VAX racks don't have
> castors either?
The VAX-11/780 has casters. Back in college, a friend and I pushed a
decommissioned 11/780 out of the computer room and into our boss's tiny office
whil
On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
Personally I think anything with castors on
No.
I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters.
But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 "full-height" drives.
Plus I'm guessing (admitte
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
Personally I think anything with castors on
No.
I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters.
But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 "full-height" drives.
On 2015-07-08 01:19, Antonio Carlini wrote:
On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Right. But I did say "some". :-)
Think 8978 for example...
Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for
cluster ...
Good question. The designation definitely existed, but yes, it's j
Personally I think anything with castors on
On Jul 8, 2015 7:37 AM, "P Gebhardt" wrote:
>
>
> - Ursprüngliche Message -
> > Von: Johnny Billquist
> > An: cct...@classiccmp.org
> > CC:
> > Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015
> > Betr
On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote:
Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote:
some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ...
Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2" chassis for
the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine sing
On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Right. But I did say "some". :-)
Think 8978 for example...
Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for
cluster ...
Antonio
- Ursprüngliche Message -
> Von: Johnny Billquist
> An: cct...@classiccmp.org
> CC:
> Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015
> Betreff: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)
>
> On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>>> Johnny Billq
>Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote:
>some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ...
Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2" chassis for
the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine single
or dual CPU BI bus VAXen. Of course, many o
On 2015-07-07 23:30, Robert Armstrong wrote:
P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote:
wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands
compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and
larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730
and /750
>P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote:
> wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands
> compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and
> larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730
> and /750 around. No idea if my gut feeling ref
There is a HECNET list
http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb?search=&field=0&sort=0
With that in mind, a more list of "live" VAXen of any type, operating
hours, IP/domain, hardware, owner, location. I realize it's not a list of
every known VAX out there, but "live/operational/networking status"
On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote:
On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses
feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-)
If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and
VAXstations should
On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses
feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-)
If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and
VAXstations should produce a list of VAXen
that you probably
On 2015-07-07 23:49, tony duell wrote:
I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should
qualify. I think that would include all the
7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a
9000...
9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember r
> >I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should
> > qualify. I think that would include all the
> > 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in
> > a 9000...
>
> 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember right. SDI on the other
On 2015-07-07 20:54, Robert Armstrong wrote:
I'd vote for "big VAX" list.
I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify.
I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines.
I don't really know what was in a 9000...
9000 is also XMI
> BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition?
I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be
restored, but
you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its
TU58 rollers
replaced, or an 11/780 that needs somebody
>I'd vote for "big VAX" list.
I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify.
I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I
don't really know what was in a 9000...
BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable con
Should the requirement be weight,
physical size,
or what tools are lost in it?
BTU requirements.
I'd vote for "big VAX" list. The minutiae of marketing names is
pretty boring and irrelevant to such a list isn't it?
Should the requirement be weight,
physical size,
or what tools are lost in it?
>> Sorry for the scope creep; but perhaps it might be more
>> useful/interesting to make it a registry of any VAX that has a name of
>> the form "VAX-11/7xx"? (Which could also include the VAX 8600 and
> VAX
>> 8650, since were originally to be called the VAX-11/790 and
>> VAX-11/795.)
>
On 2015-07-06 11:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote:
Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind
knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are
interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.co
will this include micro vax also? Ed#
In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't
mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you
are inte
Great idea! Ed#
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Original message
From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Date: 07/06/2015 8:17 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Revivin
On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote:
> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind
> knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are
> interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com).
>
Sorry for the scope creep; but perhaps it might
Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't
mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you
are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com).
alan
On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote:
Well. Desp
As a random guy who thinks that VAX-11 machines are neat, I also salute you!
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote:
Well. Despite all recent VAX-11/750 bashing it actually booted both VMS 6.1
and Ultrix-32 4.0 today. ...
BTW. The CPU of the 11/750 is contained on five extended HEX boards,
(L0002, L0003, L0004, L0008, L0011/L0016/L0022). Then there is the optional
RMD
Well. Despite all recent VAX-11/750 bashing it actually booted both VMS 6.1
and Ultrix-32 4.0 today. Yes, the gate arrays can be a problem. But until
now I haven't found one that is faulty. The problem is usually bad contact
in the sockets which can be solved easily by removing them and clean the
c
In my efforts to understand the problem with the Cache/TB Diagnostics I
tried to run it under 11/750 simulator in SimH. It fails too!
ECKAL -- VAX 11/750 Cache/TB Diagnostic
HALT instruction, PC: 2608 (MTPR #F,#26)
Although not the same location.
On the real machine:
@?ECKAL -- VAX 11/750 C
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:59 , tony duell wrote:
>
>
>> I also may dump the console firmware PROMs at some point. I've already done
>> some preliminary
>> disassembly of the TU58 firmware.
>
> I am pretty sure I dumped all the PROMs and PALs in the CPU of my 11/730 (but
> not the ones in the
> I also may dump the console firmware PROMs at some point. I've already done
> some preliminary
> disassembly of the TU58 firmware.
I am pretty sure I dumped all the PROMs and PALs in the CPU of my 11/730 (but
not the ones in the
R80) long before there was a bitsavers. I can see if I can fin
On my phone right now. Might type more after lunch.
I think I have some 730 manuals that are not yet on Bitsavers. Some original
and some photocopies. I plan to scan all of them.
I also may dump the console firmware PROMs at some point. I've already done
some preliminary disassembly of the TU
> > The bad thing with the 11/750 is that is has so many socketed TTL gate
> > array chips. Sockets are bad. And gate arrays are bad. In that sense I
Years ago I was offered an 11/750 and turned it down as soon as I saw
inside the cardcage. No way would I want to maintain that mass of
custom gate
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:06 , Mattis Lind wrote:
>
> Well. I am probably working on to much simultaneously.
I am very guilty of that, too! :)
> Then I compiled your fork of tu58em on github. And it worked perfect. I
> didn't need to use the special vax mode that you have implemented though.
>
2015-06-15 17:32 GMT+02:00 Mark J. Blair :
> I wasn't aware that you are working on a 750 repair. Congratulations on
> the progress you have already made! Are you using real console tapes,
> tu58em, or something else?
>
Well. I am probably working on to much simultaneously. But this machine is
10
I wasn't aware that you are working on a 750 repair. Congratulations on the
progress you have already made! Are you using real console tapes, tu58em, or
something else?
The revival process of the 11/750 continues. The power supplies is working
good and then I started testing the actual machine. But that was not a very
smooth journey to success. I have in total at least three complete CPU
board sets and just after quite a lot of board swapping it got running (I
thi
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