Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-19 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/19/2016 08:23 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote: > I would check, even with the help of a smartphone's sensors, what it > shows when you enable thermo-blue-tooth-why-fi and what when you > disable them. BTW, do you have bt keyboard in your house? Your > neighbour(s)? No danger there--I can't even *

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-19 Thread Geoff Oltmans
On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > > I intentionally kept the old T87-type thermostat when I bought this > house because I understood its properties well and it was completely > predictable. > > My sister, against my request, bought me a Nest. It's still in the > box. I thi

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-19 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:32:53AM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 09/15/2016 07:54 AM, tony duell wrote: > > > My thermostat contains about 2 dozen parts, even if you count every > > nut , bolt, and washer. It does the job and is not hard to understand > > or repair if/when it needs it. > > > > Q

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/15/2016 07:54 AM, tony duell wrote: > My thermostat contains about 2 dozen parts, even if you count every > nut , bolt, and washer. It does the job and is not hard to understand > or repair if/when it needs it. > > Quite why I would want a thermostat with presumably several million > compon

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > I was a bit surprised to > > find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. > > My thermostat contains about 2 dozen parts, even if > you count every nut , bolt, and washer. It does the job > and is not hard to understand or repair if/when it needs > it. I intentionally kept the old T87-t

RE: Linux at 25

2016-09-15 Thread tony duell
> I was a bit surprised to > find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. My thermostat contains about 2 dozen parts, even if you count every nut , bolt, and washer. It does the job and is not hard to understand or repair if/when it needs it. Quite why I would want a thermostat with presuma

Re: Linux at 25 [lawyers involvement]

2016-09-14 Thread jim stephens
On 9/14/2016 6:40 PM, Ian S. King wrote: >And technology is always better when the lawyers get involved, right? Linux went a long time with no lawsuits that were legally precedent setting. I thought it interesting that the busybox folks were the first ones to raise a fuss. There has always

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Ian S. King
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:18 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > > On 9/14/2016 4:14 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > >> I was a bit surprised to >>> find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. >>> >> s/surprised/alarmed/ >> >> Remember, it's going to be the Internet of Pwned Things before too long. >>

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/14/2016 05:57 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 09/14/2016 01:18 PM, Murray McCullough wrote: Linux at 25 - created 25 years ago. Has it changed computing or is it 'better' than WIN or MacOS? Right--I really want Windows or Mac OS running the firmware in my routers and DSL modem... I'll posit th

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/14/2016 03:18 PM, Murray McCullough wrote: Linux at 25 - created 25 years ago. Has it changed computing or is it 'better' than WIN or MacOS? Not really part of classic computing world but nonetheless it can be used today in emulators. ( I use it for ADAM emulating. ) I don't want to get i

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Jules Richardson
On 09/14/2016 06:14 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I was a bit surprised to find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. s/surprised/alarmed/ Remember, it's going to be the Internet of Pwned Things before too long. Time to rebrand it as NosyBox? :-)

Internet of Things (was Re: Linux at 25)

2016-09-14 Thread Eric Smith
Chuck Guzis wrote: > I was a bit surprised to > find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. Cameron Kaiser wrote: > s/surprised/alarmed/ > Remember, it's going to be the Internet of Pwned Things before too long. Unfortunately most people elide the first two letters of the initialism, leavin

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread jim stephens
On 9/14/2016 4:14 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I was a bit surprised to find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. s/surprised/alarmed/ Remember, it's going to be the Internet of Pwned Things before too long. Busybox is the first big lawsuit over GPL as well, wonder if these folks compl

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I was a bit surprised to > find that my home thermostat was running BusyBox. s/surprised/alarmed/ Remember, it's going to be the Internet of Pwned Things before too long. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * w

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/14/2016 01:18 PM, Murray McCullough wrote: > Linux at 25 - created 25 years ago. Has it changed computing or is it > 'better' than WIN or MacOS? Right--I really want Windows or Mac OS running the firmware in my routers and DSL modem... I'll posit that Linux has made a bigger splash not as

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Al Kossow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_TfBbR6L0M On 9/14/16 1:48 PM, ben wrote: > 'ASK IDIOT BEN' >

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread ben
On 9/14/2016 2:30 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Murray McCullough wrote: Linux . . . is it 'better' than WIN or MacOS? Don't you hate rhetorical questions? 'ASK IDIOT BEN' A: No. Everybody is point and click. The real American OS is point and shoot.

Re: Linux at 25

2016-09-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Murray McCullough wrote: Linux . . . is it 'better' than WIN or MacOS? Don't you hate rhetorical questions?