Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
When I expanded my network between floors in my own home, I dropped the 10Base$ stuff, moved to 10Base2 because I could drill a small hole with long 1/4" drill bit, just above the toe molding and snake the RG58 cable through it. RG8 would have required a much larger hole. Later, I used the RG8 to

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Those seem rather high priced to me. > > Ya. They are actually (just barely) higher than I can find them on eBay > ($20). > > Maybe I'm being a cheapskate. I like the $5 price a lot better. I think > that's much closer to what I paid at

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 11/17/20 3:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> That's true for either kind. Also remember to put the terminators only at >> the ends. I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator in the middle >> (on a T connec

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
I paid at Peoria Super Fest years ago for them. They were falling off the back of multiple trucks. These are not true AUI cables, but they are what I use for about 1/4 the price of the ones mentioned above: https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=480_494_495 (Tha

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 12:55 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: For those who might be curious, the screw-on type AUI were a requirement for TEMPEST installs back in the day. I used to have a bunch of them, too. TEMPEST PC's would have a short cable going from the network card (frequently Western Dig

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 4:22 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Biggest problem was keeping the building electricians from grounding the terminators at both ends. Didn't the building electricians know that they should not ground both ends of ground wire, lest they introduce sneak currents? Or am I gi

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 3:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: That's true for either kind. Also remember to put the terminators only at the ends. I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator in the middle (on a T connector)! How?! The T is inherently three points; up-stream (cable), NIC, down-stre

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread John-Paul Stewart via cctalk
sceiver&id=2041 > http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=TRAN-6 Those seem rather high priced to me. These are not true AUI cables, but they are what I use for about 1/4 the price of the ones mentioned above: https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?main_page=index&cP

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/20 5:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time not really much agony. (Sorry for the blank response, bu

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/20 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Agony?  Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time not really much agony. (Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!) At any rate, I'll tak

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 2:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: (Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!) If an extra blank reply is the worst that happens today, then I think it's a good day. At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC fittings I

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 2:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time not really much agony. Would you please enlighten me (us?) and regale some tales of agony? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 1:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: No, the AUI was the standard DA-15 to the 10Base5 transceiver; forgive my clumsy response. Thank you for clarifying. I considered it more likely that you had typed correctly and there was yet another thing that I was ignorant about. ;-) Y

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time >> not really much agony. > > (Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the but

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Agony?  Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time > not really much agony. (Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!) At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC fittin

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 11/17/20 3:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >>> On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated the

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/20 3:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors.   Never could figure out th

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual AUI style (slide > lock) connectors. > > There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular > screw lock DA-15 connectors. And of course cables with those connectors >

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated >> their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors.   Never could figure out >> the reason for that--it seemed like a very awk

Re: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/20 2:50 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a shielded (but untwisted) joystick extension cable. Ultimately, I found the actual bulkhead cable, but mine worked just fine. Granted, it was only 1-foot long, but untwisted probably wouldn't

Re: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
PM, "cctalk on behalf of Paul Koning via cctalk" > wrote: > > > >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to >>

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/20 2:46 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell? I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them f

Re: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
Rich On 11/17/20, 2:46 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Paul Koning via cctalk" wrote: > On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell?

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to > sell? > > I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need > them f

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors. Never could figure out the reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup. The /coax/ was terminated in a 15-pin AUI conne

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/17/20 10:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Too bad they weren't this valuable a few years ago.  When I was still > working my department moved to a new building at the University.  We > were seeing our space greatly reduced and being a pack rat was no longer > a valid option.  I

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/20 1:10 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/20 10:21 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: You can actually make these yourself if you can't buy them. There are, I think 5 twisted pairs in a shield. A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them right now. Interesting. T

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/20 10:21 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: You can actually make these yourself if you can't buy them. There are, I think 5 twisted pairs in a shield. A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them right now. Interesting. Thank you for the information Jon. I might prefer the

Re: WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/17/2020 10:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell? I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment. Yo

WTB: AUI cables

2020-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
Hi, Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell? I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment. In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business dir