[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 2024-07-02 6:42 p.m., Ali via cctalk wrote: Totally opposite. GSP rates from the US to UK were crazy cheap. I sold a bunch of items. Compared to USPS rates they were 1/3 often. Again I am talking about getting stuff from the UK to the US. Generally speaking it seems like shipping from th

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

> Totally opposite. GSP rates from the US to UK were crazy cheap. > I sold a bunch of items. Compared to USPS rates they were 1/3 often. Again I am talking about getting stuff from the UK to the US. Generally speaking it seems like shipping from the US to anywhere (except maybe China) is chea

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:28 PM Ali via cctalk wrote: > > seller.* While some categories are excluded from eIS, there is > > absolutely positively no reason for US sellers to not sell abroad the > > majority of categories with it. > > Except cost, time, and of course poor tracking. I haven't used

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

> seller.* While some categories are excluded from eIS, there is > absolutely positively no reason for US sellers to not sell abroad the > majority of categories with it. Except cost, time, and of course poor tracking. I haven't used eIS to ship from the US but GSP (which I believe the same thing)

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

> Yes, the Chinese government does subsidise exports. So do > most countries. >=20 Actually my understanding was the other way around. That is, the US = government is subsidizing (or at least providing preferential rates) to = China for shipping. It actually came up as a point of contention during

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 2024-07-02 16:47, Yeechang Lee via cctalk wrote: ben says: Things have not improved for shipping to CANADA from the USA. Now it is $80 for $2.0 chip from the USA. Several points for you and others who buy or sell from the US: If shipping from the US to CA, ask the shipper to use USPS. C

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On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 09:06:47PM -0400, cz via cctalk wrote: > Actually I am travelling to France in a few weeks and there is an RM80 > platter HDA I could pick up. What is the complexity of just checking it as > baggage? Do I have to declare it at Customs if the value is like zilch? I don't kno

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Postal rates between countries have long be determined by treaty. Used > to be the IPU (International Postal Union), but is now the UPU > (Universal Postal Union), which is an agency within the UN. The general > idea is for postal

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 2:02 PM Yeechang Lee via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > * By default, eBay US listings since last year have eBay International > Shipping (eIS) enabled. Any international sale goes to a US eBay depot, > which forwards the item to the customer, and handles customs

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On 7/2/24 13:40, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > I was once told that the Chinese government subsidises post in exchange for > getting prompt tax returns. Don't know how true that is. > > There's also some sort of agreement between postal services that means > every country gets uncharged local

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

ben says: > Things have not improved for shipping to CANADA from the USA. Now > it is $80 for $2.0 chip from the USA. Several points for you and others who buy or sell from the US: * Tell your sellers about Pirate Ship, and tell them to enable Simple Export rate

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

I was once told that the Chinese government subsidises post in exchange for getting prompt tax returns. Don't know how true that is. There's also some sort of agreement between postal services that means every country gets uncharged local deliveries in the destination countries in exchange for unc

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 2024-07-02 1:05 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2024, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: Chinese to UK shipments are still relatively cheap but have also risen somewhat with more sellers charging for postage. eBay Chinese shipping seems impossibly low. Keep it that way, I ne

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

It becomes a political discussion. On one hand the US is all about "free trade" (when it is an issue of selling US products abroad) but then the US imposes trade barriers against other countries. Yes, the Chinese government does subsidise exports. So do most countries. Julf On 02/07/20

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Tue, 2 Jul 2024, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: Chinese to UK shipments are still relatively cheap but have also risen somewhat with more sellers charging for postage. eBay Chinese shipping seems impossibly low. Does the Chinese guvmint sunsidize shipping exports? Does that influence the b

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"I'd be glad to find a way to access US sales at reasonable cost" Might be worth investigating MyUS. On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:42 AM Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > > Brexit made a big difference to postage costs from EU to UK but I don't > think affected US costs much. However eBay's US all-in

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Not an unreasonable idea with today's drones... On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 10:51 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/1/24 19:04, Wayne S wrote: > > Hda weighs about 50lbs so you aren’t carrying it very far. > > Well, a trebuchet then. How wide is the Detroit river at its narrowest? > > Serious

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

International shipping is black magic and voodoo. I live in the US and own two cars from the other side of the Atlantic that were not sold new in the US. Because of this, I buy a lot of parts from international vendors, mostly from three in the UK. If I get stuff from them, it usually arrives

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Ha, cool, Fred. I just recently in 2022 I showed up for my Pennsylvania to San Francisco flight with a 1969 VW MicroBus crankcase (with its guts) in a large box, hand carried it (oof) into the airport and sent it through as an additional checked bag for, I think, $50 additional on the spot. Astou

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Brexit made a big difference to postage costs from EU to UK but I don't think affected US costs much. However eBay's US all-inclusive postage seemed very expensive compared with USPS, and many sellers using independent methods have now got very expensive too. I'm not sure if prices have risen to ma

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 8:28 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-07-01 6:04 p.m., Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > Hey, I sent you a motherboard from Toronto all the way to the South > > Pole, remember? Well, OK, via San Francisco, but It wasn't too bad > > then. Mike, I do remember. I still have

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Airline baggage used to be a good deal. Size limit on carry-on, weight limit on checked. Sending a tech with parts on a plane was often much cheaper than rush shipping. On Mon, 1 Jul 2024, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I often took the "noon balloon" out of San Jose with a Samsonite case loaded

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 7/1/24 20:18, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Airline baggage used to be a good deal. > Size limit on carry-on, weight limit on checked. > > Sending a tech with parts on a plane was often much cheaper than rush > shipping. I often took the "noon balloon" out of San Jose with a Samsonite case lo

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Airline baggage used to be a good deal. Size limit on carry-on, weight limit on checked. Sending a tech with parts on a plane was often much cheaper than rush shipping. I remember flying cross country with a pair of VW cylinder heads, two clutch disks, some hand tools, and a loaf of french b

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On 7/1/24 19:04, Wayne S wrote: > Hda weighs about 50lbs so you aren’t carrying it very far. Well, a trebuchet then. How wide is the Detroit river at its narrowest? Seriously, the US-Canada border is over 5,000 miles long, with plenty of opportunity for slipping stuff across, even if it's just t

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@classiccmp.org Cc: Chuck Guzis Subject: [cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures" I've long thought that it would be a practical idea to set up a catapultin Detroit with a receiving station in Windsor to serve as a shippingarrangement between the US and Canada."Honest, C

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Hda weighs about 50lbs so you aren’t carrying it very far. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2024, at 18:43, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > I've long thought that it would be a practical idea to set up a catapult > in Detroit with a receiving station in Windsor to serve as a shipping > arr

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

I've long thought that it would be a practical idea to set up a catapult in Detroit with a receiving station in Windsor to serve as a shipping arrangement between the US and Canada. "Honest, Constable, the stuff just fell out of the sky..." --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Could you just carry it, and tell them that it is the disk for your "Personal Computer"? :-) 'course you might need to carry the computer with you to convince them :-) On Mon, 1 Jul 2024, cz via cctalk wrote: Actually I am travelling to France in a few weeks and there is an RM80 platter HDA

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Chris, the baggage handlers don’t handle things gently so if you could check it ( it’s probably too heavy anyway) it would get broken. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2024, at 18:08, ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via cctalk > wrote: > > Mike wrote: > Hey there must be lots of vintage stuff

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Mike wrote: Hey there must be lots of vintage stuff at the south pole nobody ships stuff back. :) There is, and in the past I've acquired vintage stuff shipped back from an Antarctic Base junk cleanup campaign via someone who was posted there periodically. Not vintage computers though. Also I'

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Actually I am travelling to France in a few weeks and there is an RM80 platter HDA I could pick up. What is the complexity of just checking it as baggage? Do I have to declare it at Customs if the value is like zilch? CZ On 7/1/2024 8:41 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2024-07-01 6:31 p.m., Mike

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Date: 2024-07-01 5:32 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: Sellam Abraham , Mike Stein Subject: [cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures" I've had the same experience with folks in Australia & NZ,accumulating stuff in t

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 2024-07-01 6:31 p.m., Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: I've had the same experience with folks in Australia & NZ, accumulating stuff in the US until there's enough to ship it down under. I suspect today still shipping is better than it was in the 70's. It is just nobody wants to box and crate the

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Ask Ethan; I suppose a lot of stuff did actually get left behind. On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 8:28 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2024-07-01 6:04 p.m., Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > Hey, I sent you a motherboard from Toronto all the way to the South > > Pole, remember? Well, OK, via San Francisco,

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Odd; in my experience shipping US to Canada is generally cheaper than in the opposite direction. I'm still amazed by the rates from China; maybe it's cheaper to send from Canada to someone in China and have them send it back to the US ;-) On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 8:02 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk w

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I've had the same experience with folks in Australia & NZ, accumulating stuff in the US until there's enough to ship it down under. On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 8:07 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 2:12 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 7:58

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 2024-07-01 6:04 p.m., Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: Hey, I sent you a motherboard from Toronto all the way to the South Pole, remember? Well, OK, via San Francisco, but It wasn't too bad then. Hey there must be lots of vintage stuff at the south pole nobody ships stuff back. :)

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A few years ago some kind soul sent me a couple of 5 1/4" HS Vector Graphic diskettes from Minnesota to Toronto; as I recall, it cost him about U$2.00. After copying them I forwarded them to another VG owner in Winnipeg, a few hundred miles from the original sender, and it cost C$10.00! Australia

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Hey, I sent you a motherboard from Toronto all the way to the South Pole, remember? Well, OK, via San Francisco, but It wasn't too bad then. Canada to US customs forms (just one, actually) have actually been simplified, but alas, postage rates are still outrageous. m On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 5:12 

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 4:12 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > > Things have not improved for shipping to CANADA from the USA. > Now it is $80 for $2.0 chip from the USA. > I expect to pay for shipping from China for bulk things like > bypass caps, the same as the cost of the part. > It was $5.00 for shi

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 2:12 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 7:58 AM Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > ... vendors mostly > > refuse to ship internationally and buyers won't look at stuff that's > > abroad. > > If you aren't used to customs declaration forms, it can be

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On 2024-07-01 3:06 p.m., Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 7:58 AM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: ... vendors mostly refuse to ship internationally and buyers won't look at stuff that's abroad. If you aren't used to customs declaration forms, it can be a pain. Back in the 80

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 7:58 AM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > ... vendors mostly > refuse to ship internationally and buyers won't look at stuff that's > abroad. If you aren't used to customs declaration forms, it can be a pain. Back in the 80s, I bought an Amiga accessory from a 2-man shop in C

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 19:28, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Look in the for sale forums at vcfed.org. > > The Vintage Computer Federation. In my experience this is effectively US-only, or perhaps at best North America only. There is a lot more of the world than the USA+Canada and I've lived in

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On 6/27/24 21:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The ones that I don't like are ones (particularly flea-market) where the seller refuses to give any indication of what they want, and demands that the potential buyer make the first offer. That goes to a lesson I learned long before the intern

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 8:46 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, js--- via cctalk wrote: > > I'm interested in this, but.. > > > > - How would they be compensated? > > presumably by some sort of percentage commission, such as done by art > brokers, real estate agents, etc. > R

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On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 8:18 PM js--- via cctalk wrote: > On 6/27/2024 10:09 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Regardless I think Sellam is on to something here, there is need for a > > service to manage the vintage computing collections of this who are not > > predisposed to do so themselves

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At 10:46 PM 6/27/2024, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >THAT's a tough one, and it is likely to go up or down, as things develop. And >in fact, it might be necessary to have that be a function of how difficult it >will be to move the stuff. >Most inheritors, and even owners, of collections would pro

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, js--- via cctalk wrote: I'm interested in this, but.. - How would they be compensated? presumably by some sort of percentage commission, such as done by art brokers, real estate agents, etc. - How would it be ensured that they didn't have a conflict of interest, or bia

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 6/27/2024 10:09 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Regardless I think Sellam is on to something here, there is need for a service to manage the vintage computing collections of this who are not predisposed to do so themselves. At a minimum an objective consultation and report produced by an e

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 10:53 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> I generally don't like "make an offer", unless the seller has already > >> stated an offer. If so,then I can decide whether what I want to pay is > in > >> a range that they would discuss it. > >> Otherwise,it is usually futile to

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

I generally don't like "make an offer", unless the seller has already stated an offer. If so,then I can decide whether what I want to pay is in a range that they would discuss it. Otherwise,it is usually futile to start a discussion. On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: I make

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On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 7:04 PM John Herron via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > One thing (if not already making some hardware list and maybe a description > of the history and price of the item for your family) that was recommended > was just walking around with a video camera and talkin

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 1:35 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >>> Sounds like we more need a "make offer" page. Is there somewhere on > >>> the net that already does this? > > On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > The problem with this is it gets tedious from a buyer's perspective. The

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

One thing (if not already making some hardware list and maybe a description of the history and price of the item for your family) that was recommended was just walking around with a video camera and talking about what what. An archive video of the collection will be a huge help to family if they kn

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Sounds like we more need a "make offer" page. Is there somewhere on the net that already does this? It is important to realize that there are two kinds of shopping browsing: have decided to buy one, and looking for best deal or looking for bargains, and will buy if there are any exceptional de

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Sounds like we more need a "make offer" page. Is there somewhere on the net that already does this? On Thu, 27 Jun 2024, Ali via cctalk wrote: The problem with this is it gets tedious from a buyer's perspective. The way I see it either of three scenarios are occurring when I see make an offer

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

> > Sounds like we more need a "make offer" page. Is there somewhere on > the > > net that already does this? The problem with this is it gets tedious from a buyer's perspective. The way I see it either of three scenarios are occurring when I see make an offer: 1. You are fishing to see what t

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 27/06/2024 19:30, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: As I previously stated I tried that just a month or two ago. Got zero offers. Scrapped a whole bunch of stuff cause keeping everything I have now just isn't an option anymore. An extra problem for us living outside the US is that freight/

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 6/27/2024 11:46 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: On 06/27/2024 9:36 AM CDT Bill Gunshannon via cctalk To date, I have sold nothing. I once went back to the list that suggested I use ebay to report my failure only to be greeted with, "Well, what did you expect. You are not an established seller."

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

Look in the for sale forums at vcfed.org. ' The Vintage Computer Federation. On 6/27/2024 10:46 AM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: On 06/27/2024 9:36 AM CDT Bill Gunshannon via cctalk To date, I have sold nothing. I once went back to the list that suggested I use ebay to report my failure only

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

> On 06/27/2024 9:36 AM CDT Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > To date, I have sold nothing. I once went back to the list that > suggested I use ebay to report my failure only to be greeted with, > "Well, what did you expect. You are not an established seller." I also have a whole pile of stuff that n