[cctalk] Re: VCF West August 1-2, 2025 - Mountain View, California

On 6/22/25 7:12 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: At 09:18 PM 3/11/2025, Jeffrey Brace via cctalk wrote: We're partnering with the Sacramento Amiga Computer Club and AmiWest to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Amiga and other special guests. I'm considering attending this Amiga 40th anniver

[cctalk] Tektronix XP214M X Terminal (1994) is supported by XpressWare 6.3 (1993)

I recently picked up a Tektronix XP214M - a MIPS-based, monochrome X terminal from late 1994. I thought I was going to need XPressWare 7 or later, but I haven't been able to turn up anything like that except the 8.1 patches shared on this list a couple years ago (thanks Doc!). And something abo

Re: VCF west is happening this weekend

On 8/5/21 5:57 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: It will be at the CHM. The museum is still closed but VCF will be happening. To be consistent with current Santa Clara covid conditions, bring your mask. see: https://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west/ I hope to see you all there.

Re: Keyboard storage

On 12/22/20 12:24 AM, Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: I’m storing keyboards openly in a shelf, vertical, standing on the small edge. I alternate them front-back so the slope of the keys array is compensating itself. Aside from some dust, the packing density is really good. And on 12/22/2

Re: The best hard drives??

On 11/16/20 7:27 PM, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:     In the opinions of you experts out there considering reliability being number one on the list with speed be number two on the list what would you folks consider to be the best SATA drives on the market? Not an expert, but I'm as depend

Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?

On 8/30/20 6:32 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the Sony factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next morning the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive. I've heard of "factory rust" and "factory oil leaks," bu

Network gear that supported StarLAN 1 (not 10)

I was wondering if anybody remembers which networking vendors supported StarLAN 1, or 802.3e / 1Base5, back in the 1980s? Hoping to get product names and/or model numbers. I've come across some references to Western Digital, Micom-Interlan, Cross Comm Corp (Massachusetts), and Fox Research (la

Re: Ok, got the Perq tapes

On 04/26/2020 16:33, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Ok, so this evening I went back to the house to do a quick evacuation of the most critical stuff and take some better pictures. This time I brought a massive xeon flashlight which helps to get quicker pictures with less shake. Thank you for do

Re: LINC-8

On 04/26/2020 13:38, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Wow: https://www.ebay.com/itm/353062352448 I've read manuals for these, but I've never even seen a picture of one before. They had one of these in use at the William Penn Charter School (K-12 prep school) in Philadelphia through the earl

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 3

On 01/05/2020 07:02, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: OS/2 was to be morphed into a cross-platform o/s, >> to wean folks from dos/x86. > True, but what few remember now is that as well as OS/2 1 (80286) and OS./2 2 (80386), there was also OS/2 3 (CPU-independent). It was initially developed

Re: PBXes at home

On 09/19/2019 19:27, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote: A number of years ago I picked up a Lucent Merlin Legend system. ... Around 2000 I picked up an expanded Nortel Compact ICS (CICS) with voice mail unit - might be the last thing I bought from a NetNews post. That was 8 analog CO lines and

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

On 08/15/2019 23:21, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: I have on several occasions posted appeals to this list for people to contribute content to it, and gotten almost no response (with one notable exception), in terms of added content; that was a large part of why I merely mentioned it in an offh

Re: VCF West?

On 07/30/2019 23:43, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? (other than Apple oneS) Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? On Tuesday a colleague at $WORK reposted the Hackaday announcement, and he's far from the ccmp crowd. So word is g

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

On 06/28/2019 11:11, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Canada also replaced the $1- and $2-bill with coins (26.5mm and 28mm, resp.). Oh, I know. I was questioned by the RCMP for spending a $2 bill that was in my leftover Canadian cash from a previous trip years before. Two weeks ago I was in Lo

Re: Process accounting - did anyone ever use it?

On 05/31/2019 08:58, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 5/30/19 11:57 PM, Warner Losh wrote: I had it enabled on my FreeBSD boxes and got monthly usage stats. I did it to make sure that there were no weird users with time, and that the typical usage was "what I expected". Never detected anything

Re: Nat Semi 16032 info discovered

On 04/29/2019 09:30, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: I just found a binder with about an inch of fanfold printouts of all the device drivers, low-level system routines, boot loaders, etc in c source format. So, it might be tricky to scan and OCR it without training the OCR. Not sure anybody wou

Re: Refillable spray can

> Looks like a great idea but the reviews say otherwise. Dangerous even. > How about a cheap airbrush kit? Reminds me of something I picked up years back, and haven't seen another of - a rechargeable compressed air sprayer. Works more or less like the disposable "canned air" sprayers you get b

gcc-1.34 source?, was Re: old gcc #pragma handling

On 01/29/2019 14:53, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote: But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed). Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34? I'm not positive that this is "pure" gc

Re: Books available ACM CALGO Vols I, II, III, loosleaf+microfice

n you unearth them, I'd provide a home. Be advised I'm heading to Japan for two weeks on Saturday, so I may ask that they be shipped to my office (well, I might do that anyway...). LMK, --S. -- Steven M Jones CRASH Computing e: s...@crash.com

Re: 70's computers

On 10/29/2018 05:28, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Does anyone know why they didn't catch on? Was it something like 'commodity 'ordinary' processors became so cheap one could build large parallel machines out of them, and each node had a lot more computing capability', or something like that?

Re: ISO: Blue (usually) Silicone? tape retainer material

On 08/07/2018 18:54, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I recall that new tapes would often come with a strip of (usually blue) silicone-ish tape ... Yes, I remember those. Don't have a source for exactly equivalent material, but you might be able to use 3-5 mil sign vinyl if you could get it wit

Re: LISP microcode for an 11/730? Was Re: Modifying microcode

On 06/15/2018 08:28, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > I wasn't able to find a reference to back it up, but ... Sorry for the delay - that was stuck in my Outbox over a two week business trip...

LISP microcode for an 11/730? Was Re: Modifying microcode

On 06/02/2018 11:08, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote: I've heard a persistent rumor over the years that the WPS/8 and PDP-8 software group at DEC had modified the 730's microcode to support a PDP-8 emulation [...] I wasn't able to find a reference to back it up, but if we're sharing fa

Re: Unix-PC

On 03/23/2018 14:32, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I will take it if no one else does, but where is it, missed this thread Most recent reference I could find was May 2017: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2017-May/034691.html Bill appears to be located near Scranton, PA. If I

Re: 8" floppy drives from AMD development system?

On 02/07/2018 08:46, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: AMD made a whole Multibus product line covered in http://bitsavers.org/pdf/amd/multibus in particular AMD_Multibus_OEM_Products_May84.pdf Spot-on, thanks Al! Pictured on page 3-2 (aka 95 in xpdf). When in doubt, check Bitsavers... ;)

8" floppy drives from AMD development system?

Anybody notice this eBay auction? https://cgi.ebay.com/itm/222816138475 I'd guess it was part of a packaged AMD development system, maybe somebody recalls some specifics...? Or maybe that it was something else? Google is returning a lot about Age-related Macular Degeneration, and other misses

Re: CX laser printers (Was: Sun3 valuations?

On 01/22/2018 11:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: For a brief while, the LaserWriter was the fastest, most powerful computer in Apple's limeup.  If you are crazy enough, You can communicate directly with it and program in Postscript (similar to Forth) Heck, it was faster than the Macs, PCs,

Bringing up the Sprite OS (Berkeley)

I'm not sure where one might normally expect to discuss research operating systems from the 1980s and 90s, but since it ran on Sun-2 through Sun-4 and DECstations, I'll start here. I have the Sprite disk image for the DECstation 5000/200 running under GXemul (see https://github.com/OSPreservProjec

Re: Tubbs fire consumed the collected archives of William Hewlett and David Packard

General comment to several earlier replies re: Bitsavers-type efforts. The tragedy here is not that some copies of uncommon but otherwise extant product documentation were lost. From the description, there were a large number of unique, individual documents created by significant historical figure

Re: A Mystery

On 10/10/2017 12:17, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > The /RC was (apparently) for "Reduced Connectivity" or some such. The RC stood for Restricted Configuration. (I didn't remember it correctly either.) https://books.google.com/books?id=Sr4cRFxEX7QC&lpg=PA15&ots=5XAty8lkUd&dq=VAXstation%

VCF West: 90's Workstations On Consignment for $5 each

I've loaded up the car and will be putting the following in the Consignment Room at VCF West in the morning. These were all rescued from Mesa Electronics a couple months ago. I'm asking for a $5 donation to VCFed for 24 of these items, just to support the event (one is free). There are multiple ex

Re: post from classiccmp.org: Dr. Dobb's Developer Library DVD 6

On 07/17/2017 14:36, John Greve via cctalk wrote: > > Did you ever find a usable source? I never did find an ISO image of DDJ DVD 6. I had found numerous torrent links too, but none that I checked were still retrievable. Haven't checked the link(s) Graham Toal offered. --S.

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

On 05/24/2017 02:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > I'm surprised to see a swedish keyboard there :) And I thought it was important to include that keyboard, because somebody somewhere must be in a real jam if they need one... > What is a PCM-12 ? It appears to be a PDP-8 clone based on the Inters

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

>> Link to some photos I took: >> https://www.flickr.com/... > > The link is 404 for me. > will look for the other post. Sigh. Looks like default permissions weren't "public", but Flickr/Yahoo is also suggesting this heretofore alien URL format: https://www.flickr.com/gp/smj_crash/4bgzj2

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

Sorry, forgot - Alphas! Two DEC 3000 model 400, one DEC 3000 model 600, one DEC 3000 model 600S, and an AlphaServer 600 IIRC. VAXserver 3300 VAX 4000 model 300 DECtalk DTC01 numerous DEC BA42 DEC "leprechaun" boxes (think VAXstation 2000) Mac 7200/90 5-10 color CRTs - VRT19, VR299, VR290 Couple s

No food/drinks in the terminal room, was Re: Looking for Apollo Workstations for TV show

On 03/13/2017 14:09, js--- via cctalk wrote: > > ... except > some of the actors have a penchant for putting food or beverages on top > of various units which -- I don't know about you -- makes me fidgety. In other words, the same penchant -- and response -- as when these units were new... Some t

Joking, was Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

On 01/17/2017 10:58, Alan Frisbie wrote: > > ... getting rid of all the stuff > I accumulated over my almost 50 years in the computer industry. I > have three rental storage units full of stuff and the cost is > killing me! Is it OK to post ads on this list? No, no it isn't! Best you send me

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

On 01/10/2017 14:09, Andy Cloud wrote: > > I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the > rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? Rare and unusual? That disqualifies a lot of things that are neat, maybe uncommon, but mainstream. Wicat S-2000 server.

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? [Tek 4132]

On 01/15/2017 08:23, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 1/14/17 7:20 PM, allison wrote: > >> If the 32016 had a second generation > > It had several generations. The 32532 saw some use in laser printers. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS320xx This kind of "buries the lead," however -- the NS32532 i

Looking for Dr. Dobb's Developer Library DVD 6

Greetings all, I always figured I'd order one of the compilations of Dr. Dobb's Journal on CD/DVD One Of These Days... Then they went and stopped publication. While a lot of DDJ content is still online at drdobbs.com, I'd still like to pick up that DVD. So like the Subject says, I'm looking to ac

Re: Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

On 10/21/2016 18:22, william degnan wrote: > > Stoned Monk is still detectable by modern anti virus software, 25 or > whatever years later, at least last time I tested using a win 7 machine. > So, that was maybe 4 or 5 years ago. Well, glad to hear there's nothing to worry about. Like I said, not

Archived viruses, was Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

On 10/21/2016 14:15, william degnan wrote: > Any disk or archive you come upon from the early 90's should be scanned for > viruses before use on a vintage machine. USe a modern PC as it's no biggie > to clean old viruses that way. Scan before you use on an older machine, > scan inside of ZIP file

Re: Are DEC TK50/TK70 tapes worth hanging onto?

On 10/18/2016 08:32, Thomas Dzubin wrote: > > But, I also have two big rubbermade containers (about half a cubic > meter) filled with TK50 and TK70 tapes which I have never used. > > In the past 25 years that I have had them, I have not once ever used > my TK50 or TK70 drives...I've always either

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

On 10/16/2016 15:38, Glen Slick wrote: > > Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally > removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure. By my previous viewing of the pics in that auction - yes, somebody ripped the platters out of the HDD, breaking the a

Re: Getting out of the hobby

On 10/15/2016 19:39, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > My point blew right past you, apparently--yet I stated it as clearly as > I could. I got your point, Chuck, one hundred percent. It's a depressing perspective, but I acknowledge the truth of it in my own life. Almost every day I'm reminded that nothing

Re: Getting out of the hobby

On 10/15/16 12:49, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I can read about using arsphenamine > to treat syphilis, for example (historically important), without > contracting the disease and treating it myself just for "the experience". Well, thanks for not drawing a *direct* comparison between those of us still

Re: Anyone have any info on a Tektronix X221CHT?

On 09/15/16 22:24, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Hi, All, > > I unearthed what appears to be a Tektronix X terminal, marked on the bottom: > > MODEL: X221CHT I'd guess that the human-readable model is probably XP221, though that doesn't lead to a lot via Google. However you might find a usable PSU under

Subjects, Topics and Threading

On 09/14/16 09:52, Dale H. Cook wrote: > > Please do not change the subject line in a thread. The subject line > of this thread has been changed twice since it began as "68K Macs > with MacOS 7.5 still in production use..." When you change a subject > line the header information concerning the subj

Re: Recovering 4mm tar tapes

On 09/12/16 16:35, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I tried using different blocksizes with no luck. Debian does have the > mt command and I was able to use it to get the tape status, rewind and > was able to have it move the tape forward a number of records (not sure > what a record is) > > #mt -f /de

MicroPDP-11/73, was Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

On 09/07/16 05:02, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > The other thing that makes no sense is that the KDJ11-B (M8190) has all that > extra circuitry on it to support PMI, etc - all of which is unused in the > 11/73 application! Why not just plug in a (presumably cheaper) M8192? In Marketing-land, the VAXsta

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

On 08/19/2016 11:08, Chris Hanson wrote: > > Back in the day, did anyone produce an X11 server for DOS-based > 8086/8088 systems, say with support for Hercules or CGA graphics? > Or was that strictly a 286-or-better thing, given the overall > constraints of the 8086 architecture? I realize this pr

Re: R: HP to acquire SGI

On 08/14/2016 13:08, Ian S. King wrote: > > Grab all the SGI docs/bits you can, before HP sends them to /dev/null and > 404 SGI "retired" their excellent TechPubs system not very long ago when they outsourced customer support, thereby removing all the docs and patches that still covered many

Re: MicroVax II

On 08/02/2016 19:49, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I had 3 different types of SCSI CDROM's and none of them worked [...] > Is there a SCSI CDROM to look for? That's unfortunate. The DEC badged drives would be ideal, but you should be good with Sun-, HP- or SGI-badged drives, or Plextor and Toshiba dr

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: > On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: >> >> They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it > a third party? I seem to remember third party TCPIP software, > Multiware, etc.

DEQNA and VMS 5, was Re: MicroVax II

On 07/29/2016 19:30, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > Note that DEQNA will not work (at all) on either version. > You’ll need a DELQA. On 07/30/2016 08:50, Paul Koning wrote: > > Yes, VMS stopped supporting the QNA at some point because, even > after 12 ECOs, it could not be made to work properly. If I >

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

On 07/16/2016 15:21, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > In the mid 80s our Uni teaching 11/780 running VMS would groan and creak > under the strain of 50 students logged on. I was told that over at Sydney > Uni, their 11/780s were running a very modded and tweaked Unix and could > have a hundred or mo

Re: DEC PDT-150 software

On 07/10/2016 14:13, Fred Jan Kraan wrote: > > On 2016-07-10 07:00 PM, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: >> >> I have a restored and (I think) functional PDT-150 with dual 8? floppy >> drives but no software. [...] >> >> Any assistance would be appreciated. Happy to pay for OS/Application >>

Re: BA23 fan noise

On 02/01/2016 08:22, Warner Losh wrote: > [...] All you can do about that is to get a smaller fan that can turn more > slowly. If you couldn't tell from the rest of his post, Warner meant "get a larger fan," not "smaller." This is why main PC case fans can now be had in excess of 5" / 12cm. The

Terminals in the WC, was Re: TK50/TK70 Info

On 08/28/2015 11:09, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-08-28 20:07, Fred Cisin wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, tony duell wrote: I realised the other day that I do not live in a normal house. Apart from the toilet, every room on the ground floor contains at least one PDP11 (some not set up yet). Ni

TS05 is re-badged Cipher? was Re: Pre-VCFMW Sales and Free Stuff

On 08/26/2015 23:50, Jason T wrote: It's definitely creeping up on a hundred. I believe they are rebadged Cipher drives, although I don't know what model. j I thought the TS05 was a 1600bpi drive, so I would have guessed the F880. But there seem to be a few sites saying it was an 80MB drive

Re: Fwd: Old gear avail in NY

On 07/23/2015 18:18, Tapley, Mark wrote: forwarded from Cindy at Electronics Plus. Contact eaustin in NY directly [...] Please email eaus...@sunnking.com if you are interested in purchasing these or similar items in quantity. Sounds suspiciously like it might be

SGI Indy available for collection in Sao Paolo, Brasil

I think we've got a few active list members in Brasil, and somebody's got a nicely configured SGI Indy available for collection in Sao Paolo. it has irix 6.2 installed (maybe) and (may still have) Maya and Photoshop 1 with licenses. and medias for irix only. two hdds inside. maxed ram. externa

Re: Masscomp MC-500 - Re: cctech Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5

On 07/06/2015 16:24, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-06 3:33 PM, Clem Cole wrote: ... One other note about the MC-500. If was the first commercial Multiprocessor UNIX ... display processor, a number of 29000's in the FP and APP's units, more 29000 logic in the Data Acq Unit, ... Pretty cool for

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

On 06/07/2015 10:02 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: And... All diagnostics pass! Woohoo! Great to hear, well done Mark! I hope one of these days soon I'll join you - my 730 was able to boot the last time I powered it up in the early 90s, but I have no idea what I'll find when I finally amass the n

Re: 54 TK50 tapes on eBay

On 05/23/2015 10:04, Mark J. Blair wrote: I'd like to get a modern DLT drive for my modern computer backups The current hotness is LTO (Linear Tape Open), I think LTO-5 gives you 3.0TB assuming 2:1 compression - and LTO-6 is probably the current flavor. (after I sell a few more kidneys, tha