[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-02-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 11:01:34PM +, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 2/1/25 13:12, David Wise via cctalk wrote: [...] >> I used the 1488 and 1489 RS232 chips as level shifters on the >> semiconductor RAM board I designed for the IBM 1620. Handy. > In the 1970s/80s, there seemed to be two ca

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-01-31 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 08:23:18AM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > So when did serial printers show up? 1887 if we are to believe Wikipedia's article on teleprinters, although their citation doesn't quite support that date. It's not going to be much later though. The early teleprinters didn't

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now

2025-01-31 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 04:56:06AM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > I always wondered why one needed a 25 pin connector? > Now every thing seems to be just 3 wire TTL. > Before RS232, how many wires where needed for the current loop > and did they have standard connector? > I can see 2 wire pai

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-27 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 06:37:46AM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [...] > Perhaps, instead of gravity being .5 G back then, it was merely only on > half the time? Perhaps being done at a high enough frequency to not be > noticed, similarly to SCR "phase control lamp dimming"? Yoy may jest, bu

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 08:27:05PM +, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: [...] > My robot vacuum has taken to asking "Please empty my dustbin and clean my > filter" about 5 minutes after I did that. More annoyingly, it insists that > "I'm stuck. Please move me so I can recover my position" about 1

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-14 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:51:15PM -0800, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, 2025-01-13 at 17:16 -0800, Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote: >> FORTRAN was a dead end, both in syntax (line-oriented, line numbers) and >> semantics (common blocks, static arrays, very poor string support). > Fo

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-14 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 01:57:44PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > Funny when the 8 and 16 bit micros hit the market, Algol seemed to vanish > off the face of the earth. Was 64KB too small a address space? It's likely to be the same reasons why C never really became a thing on typical microco

[cctalk] Re: Running DOS executables on other versions of DOSRe: Looking for Sharp PC-5000 disk drive (CE-510F or possibly MZ-80B)

2024-11-06 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 11:05:13AM -0500, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > I use a strobe disk glued to a fridge magnet that I stick on the spindle > motor of 5 1/4" drives to confirm the speed; the trouble is that it's > becoming difficult these days to find lamps that emit light at 60 Hz. ;-) Thos

[cctalk] Re: NTE is dead

2024-10-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 12:31:53PM -0500, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: [...] > And, you are very lucky! We used to have two electronic stores, and now > both have closed up. If you need a connector, length of cable, or > something of that sort, there is no place local to get it! I can't even find a

[cctalk] Re: What's the going rate for 80286?

2024-09-23 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 03:43:01PM -0500, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: [...] > You should see what a DIP 8250-compatible UART costs... The venerable 16550 is an 8250-compatible, so that would be $4.47 from Digikey, plus another couple of bucks for a PLCC-to-DIP adaptor from wherever. DIP versions

[cctalk] Re: A little off-topic but at least somewhat related: endianness

2024-08-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 04:00:40PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-08-16 8:56 a.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: [...] >> This makes them a perfect match for a brain-dead language. But what does >> it even *mean* to "automaticaly promote smaller data types to large

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 11:42:01PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-08-16 12:11 p.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: [...] >> From what I can tell of a casual peruse of the documentation of CP/M-68K >> and CP/M-86, they support the full address space of 4GiB and 1MiB >&g

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-16 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 12:28:23AM -0500, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: [...] > I don't ever recall seeing 86-DOS on shelves, or ever really hearing about > it. But CP/M remained fairly popular to mid 1980s (I just mean I knew > various friends who daily used CP/M then). A couple issues with CP/M:

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-16 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 08:47:44PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, 3 Aug 2024, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] >> Not my country, not my continent. I've lived in Africa, 3 different >> countries in Europe, spent a lot of time and speak the languages of 4 >> more, but America is fa

[cctalk] Re: A little off-topic but at least somewhat related: endianness

2024-08-16 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 01:41:20PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > I don't know about the VAX,but my gripe is the x86 and the 68000 don't > automaticaly promote smaller data types to larger ones. What little > programming I have done was in C never cared about that detail. Now I can > see way

[cctalk] Re: 3d printer recreation question

2024-07-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 01:33:56AM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: > is anybody 3-d printing things that are often lost, or additional ones > needed, like disk caddies for sun and silicon graphics systems? Yes, and they often publish them for others to use for free on e.g. their GitHub reposi

[cctalk] Re: Neurodata Catwriter

2024-07-15 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 09:56:14PM +0100, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > https://imgur.com/a/GjiB44R > For all of those not in the group, images above. The back connectors are a couple of BNC connectors marked "VID [obscured]" and "VID1" so we can assume video, and a DB-25 with three wires connec

[cctalk] Re: Neurodata Catwriter

2024-07-15 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 05:51:50PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > This seems to be a Belgian computer that draws a total blank on Google. > https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagecomputerclub/posts/8562290167137607/ > Anyone ever heard of it? Unfortunately, that link is also a total blank

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

2024-07-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 09:06:47PM -0400, cz via cctalk wrote: > Actually I am travelling to France in a few weeks and there is an RM80 > platter HDA I could pick up. What is the complexity of just checking it as > baggage? Do I have to declare it at Customs if the value is like zilch? I don't kno

[cctalk] Re: Intel 8086 - 46 yrs. ago

2024-06-12 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 05:18:56PM +0100, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: [...] > DEC came across another issue with the PDP-11 vs the VAX. Although the > pipelined architecture of the VAX was much faster than the PDP-11, the > actual time for a single instruction cycle was much increased, which led

[cctalk] Re: interlace [was: NTSC TV demodulator ]

2024-05-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:06:13PM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: [...] > so, just curious. how do digital TVs (and monitors) work? I presume the > dots are a rectangle, not sloping down to the right, no half a line at the > top and bottom. Do they just assume the brain can't tell that (for t

[cctalk] Re: interlace [was: NTSC TV demodulator ]

2024-05-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:13:38AM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: [...] > many games and entry pcs with old style tv analog format, don't interlace, > and tube TVs nearly all (except maybe a few late model high end ones?) are > fine with that, but I seem to recall that most or all digital/fla

[cctalk] Re: BASIC

2024-05-03 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 02:51:06AM +, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: > BASICs available at bootup were nice, but really were only useful with 8 > bit micros. IBM ROM BASIC was hobbled until you ran BASICA from disk. And > if you had a floppy it only made sense to buy a cheap compiler (Quick > Basi

[cctalk] Re: Z80 vs other microprocessors of the time.

2024-04-23 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 01:06:42AM +0100, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: [...] > This was implemented by a humble 6502 running at (mostly) 2MHz, with one 8 > bit arithmetic register, two 8 bit index registers, one 8 bit stack > pointer, a 16 bit program counter and a few flag bits. > I would have

[cctalk] Re: Last Buy notification for Z80 (Z84C00 Product line)

2024-04-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 09:34:42PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 4/19/24 19:39, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] >> Now is a good time to stock up for any z80 projects or repair, while they >> are $10 or less on epay. Unless people start panic-buying them, Z80 chips are likely to languish i

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-10 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 05:44:59PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] > No idea of the CPU performance. 4MHz Z80A but whether there was any > contention or anything I have no idea. I believe one of the > interesting bits of the design is that there's no ROM at all. They > came with a dedica

[cctalk] Re: Friden (was Silly question about S-100 and video monitors)

2023-09-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 04:32:57PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > I think that way has been for a while. Having a hard time finding a 68B50 > on ebay. All the modern serial devices (I can buy) seem to be serial > interfaced. Sigh. I see the 68B50 on AliExpress, and they're probably even genu

[cctalk] Re: Apple 1

2023-08-04 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 08:51:31AM -0500, John Herron via cctalk wrote: [...] > That price is interesting. Does that imply the value has gone down after > some skyrocketed close to 1 million? One still has to make the decision of > a owning a house or an apple 1. Well, both of them are treated as

[cctalk] Re: Greaseweazle part 2

2023-06-12 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:21:52AM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > I would of thought the AMIGA would have a say here, as it reads a disk > track as just a bunch of flux transitions. The Amiga has a choice of two fixed clock rates, both of which happen to correspond with common DD disk format

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-27 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 12:52:39PM +0100, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: [...] > USB interfacing is hard, but SD cards are a lot simpler. So use a card > reader thing to transfer the files to an SD card and design an > interface for that to ISA bus. No need even to design anything or faff around cop

[cctalk] Re: ST-251 Data Recovery for Glenside Color Computer Club (GCCC)

2023-05-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 12:02:05PM -0500, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > That is because Amiga uses GCR recording rather then FM or MFM. Nope. You may have gotten confused with the Commodore 64 drives, which were very Special, or perhaps early Apple gear. The Amiga's disk controller supports both

[cctalk] Re: Knockoffs, was: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-15 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 09:16:02PM +, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: [...] > It's nice to support the designers in some capacity, but buying knockoffs > fuels the ecosystem that creates knockoffs. With our stuff, it's never > been that a single knockoff operation eats our lunch, it's that t

[cctalk] Re: Chatgpt : I had a retro dream

2023-02-07 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 12:27:33PM +0100, Cedric Amand via cctalk wrote: > I've looked at the problem a bit, there are two issues to solve at first > glance ; (A) there doesn't seem to be a telnet server library in python, > so whatever you do you have to write your own telnet server, which is a >

[cctalk] Re: USB Attached 5.25" drives?

2023-01-21 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 07:55:50PM -0800, geneb via cctalk wrote: [...] > I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the AppleSauce yet. Yes, it requires a > Mac. Yes, they're currently out of stock, but Yes, it's absolutely the > best solution out there for disk imaging. https://applesaucefdc.com/ It's c

[cctalk] Re: AI applied to vintage interests

2023-01-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:16:18AM +, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: [...] > How about translating code from Z80 which has several registers to 6502 > with rather fewer? That would seem to need some more intelligent thinking > on how to simulate the unavailable registers without causing additi

[cctalk] Re: long lived media (Was: Damage to CD-R from CD Sleeve

2023-01-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 05:42:55AM +, Chris via cctalk wrote: [...] > The only answer that anyone can provide is redundancy. Keep 2 or 3 copies > of everything on seperate external drives. Every 3 to 5 years buy new > drives and transfer the data to them. Or just run checkdisk twice a year > an

[cctalk] Re: Pertec controller; was: anybody need 1/2" tape drives?

2022-12-01 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 08:10:27PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: [...] > 5V tolerant does not mean 5V compatible. I have right now some 5V devices > I want to control, and it's not exactly clear whether a 3.3V device will > drive outputs high enough to reliably make 5V devices see them as hi

[cctalk] Re: Inline Serial Device?

2022-11-12 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 10:28:09AM +, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: [...] > The other day I saw a product with a flashing LED, the flash rate was set > with a knob. Yes, a microcontroller with a pot connected to an analogue > input and LED hung off an output port. This is the sort of thing I'd d

[cctalk] Re: Bubble Memory

2022-10-21 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:15:02PM +1100, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: [...] > Yet another American seler who doesn't understand how simple overseas > shipping is. As far as I can tell, the price to ship anything overseas from the USA is twice the value of the item, plus fifty bucks, plus ten bu

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: Philips P2000C carrying strap

2022-09-30 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:39:46AM -0500, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:26 AM Tony Duell via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >> Does anyone have a Philips P2000C CP/M luggable with the carrying strap? >> I will be restoring such a machine in the near-ish fut

[cctalk] Re: Cell phone as a dial up modem.

2022-08-11 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 11:53:34PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible, or -- better -- have experience using a > cell phone as a dial up modem? I did it routinely in the late 1990s and early 2000s. I stopped once I got a GPRS-capable handset, since that was m

Re: Cctalk subscription disabled

2022-05-11 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 07:14:23AM -0400, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > I get these every so often despite my gmail account. I believe when you're > on a thread that has an email address within in it that gets flagged, all > associated emails are also.flagged, based on how the reply all setting i

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-22 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 07:12:07PM -0400, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote: [...] > Agree here. I loved the 68K and have fond memories of writing programs in > it. But while the x86 has been Frankensteined into 64 bits, I don't think > I can see the 68K ever being a 64-bit architecture. I don't think t

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-01-31 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 07:51:28PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: [...] > Yes, RT-11 is a somewhat unusual file system in that it doesn't just > support contiguous files -- it supports ONLY contiguous files. That makes > for a very small and very fast file system. > The only other example I

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-01-31 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 02:21:19PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [...] > That limit lasted until MS-DOS 3.31 / PC-DOS 4.00 After that, the limit > was bumped up to 2GB. (Probably would have been 4GB if they had used an > UNSIGNED 32 bit number, and given up the option of having negative file

Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 04:47:36PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 1/18/22 2:21 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: >> https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/ > I like it! The ratios are wrong: it's about twice as thick as it ought to be. It's apparently been designed by som

Re: VAX 780 on eBay

2022-01-03 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 06:59:47PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2022-01-02 6:28 p.m., Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: [...] >> On that note a Raspberry Pi 2b running SIMH/VAX is about 1.6 VUPS. > But can the Pi handle a gazillion students all time sharing at once @ > 2400? How long was the VAX ti

Re: Women of Computing

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 06:20:33PM -, Chris Long via cctalk wrote: > Great.not. > > Why do we need woke Lego? To annoy people who use dogwhistles.

Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 01:09:34PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk > wrote: >> I assume you've already attempted to throw the usual household stuff at it >> as if it was a phone or TV. If not, dig out the glass

Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:34:19PM +0100, jacob--- via cctalk wrote: > I got a Apple cube here as part of a larger haul, at some point someone > placed a bit of tape on the clear polycarbonate case, the tape is long > gone but the yellow glue remains. > Am unsure about the hardness of it, if I cou

Re: Linux and the 'clssic' computing world

2021-10-25 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:18:51AM +0200, Sijmen J. Mulder via cctalk wrote: [...] > It's especially frustrating when, after having put in the work, projects > refuse even trivial patches for Solaris and derrivatives or sometimes even > BSDs because 'who uses that anyway'. (I include the patches in

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-28 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 01:14:54PM -0700, Yeechang Lee via cctech wrote: > Liam Proven says: [...] >> If you were going to spend as much as a new car on an early home >> computer, > If you're going to exaggerate for effect, don't exaggerate so much that > your meaning is lost. I went and looked up

Re: Linux and the 'clssic' computing world

2021-09-28 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 09:55:08AM -0400, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > [...] WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows versions. [...] Windows 11 hasn't even been released yet, so this cannot be known. Any claims of "much more secure" comes from press releases and other marketing m

Re: VAX4000 VLC diagnostics/console

2021-09-05 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 09:34:30AM -0400, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: > On 2021-09-04 08:30, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: >> "Digital Diggings" couldn't get BlueSCSI to work on either VAX or Alpha: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFEh7owqHxU&t=36s. That's a pity as it's >> much cheap

Re: Ultrix-11

2021-08-26 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:04:34PM -0400, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: [...] > In the video on youtube and in my experience the screen formating codes > seem to be incorrect.  You can see this in the video when a man page is > brought up.  The bolding does not occur.  I get the same result afte

Re: Extremely CISC instructions

2021-08-24 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 08:47:33AM -0500, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 04:13 AM 8/24/2021, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: >> move.b ([0x12345678, %pc, %d0.w*8], 0x9abcdef0), ([0x87654321, %sp], %a0*4, >> 0x0fedcba9) > And which language and compiler case was this aimed at?

Re: Extremely CISC instructions

2021-08-24 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 01:38:33AM +0100, Tom Stepleton via cctalk wrote: > For the sake of illustration to folks who are not necessarily used to > thinking about what computers do at the machine code level, I'm interested > in collecting examples of single instructions for any CPU architecture > t

Re: WTB: Amiga 3000 front/floppy

2021-08-16 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 11:10:47AM -0400, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote: > Scored an A3000. Prior owner cut a hole where the floppy goes and mounted > a PC floppy in there. Looking for an original front plate and the matching > floppy drive to restore machine to original look. Those funky 150RPM

Re: Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-15 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 01:29:37AM -0400, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: > On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 12:55, Kevin Parker wrote: [...] >> ...but on my limited understanding it required support from the web >> server to actually give effect to this. > I believe that's right. At least all of the

Re: Install Floppies (Was: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from

2021-07-26 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 11:46:17AM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 7/24/21 10:26 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> My recollection of the DMF Microsoft period was that if you purchased a >> retail MS product using the DMF format and couldn't get it read on your >> system, a call to MS

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-21 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:30AM -0700, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote: [...] >> Regarding your "IDE HDDs were extremely rare" comment, did *anyone* other >> than Quantum release an IDE drive in that 5.25" form factor? I can't >> think of any, everything else was 3.5", although some early vendor's

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-21 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 06:48:08AM -0500, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: [...] > Regarding your "IDE HDDs were extremely rare" comment, did *anyone* other > than Quantum release an IDE drive in that 5.25" form factor? I can't think > of any, everything else was 3.5", although some early vendor'

Re: VT340 Emulation

2021-06-26 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 04:53:08PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 6/25/21 2:48 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: [...] >> The other is in the software layer: the standards are a mess and the >> full gamut of serial protocols are not available and/or not implemented &

Re: VT340 Emulation

2021-06-25 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 06:46:41PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: [...] > The 4k monitors that I've worked with have been ultra high DPI. This means > that things that don't have DPI settings end up being tiny on the screen. It works fine on MacOS, except for various garbage ports from Wind

Re: On compiling. (Was a way off topic subject)

2021-06-23 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:42:22AM -0700, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: [...] > I have a vague recollection of a story about a FORTH processor that put > the addresses of the functions to be executed on the return-address stack > (68000?) and then executed a RETURN instruction. I was initially goin

Re: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 08:06:26PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > My latest gripe, is I still am looking for a algorithm to generate code > for a single accumulator machine for an arithmetic expression. Parenthesis > need to evaluated first and temporary variables allotted, thus a two pass >

Re: Hard To Believe This Person Is Serious

2021-03-26 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:02:20AM +0100, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: [...] > Why is the price marked in GBP and why doesn't he ship to Germany? Assuming anything gets shipped at all. Perhaps they don't want to take money from anybody too local who might cause them some grief. I note they a

Re: 80286 Protected Mode Test

2021-03-14 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 04:32:20PM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, 7 Mar 2021, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: >>> The 286 can exit protected mode with the LOADALL instruction. [...] > The existence of LOADALL (used for in-circuit emulation, a predecessor > technique to modern J

Re: Any interest in a Floating Point Systems AP-120 array processor?

2021-03-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 01:06:24PM +0100, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: [...] > I'll say. Modern kit gets 1 FLOPS per MHz per core [...] And indeed with the speed of modern machines with clock speeds in the GHz and TFLOPS, and thousands of cores in some devices, we use large SI multip

Re: Any interest in a Floating Point Systems AP-120 array processor?

2021-03-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 10:40:41PM -0800, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk wrote: [...] > Out of curiousity, decided to benchmark one of my old, really cheap PC > laptops that got in 2010 and it managed 30 Mflops using double precision > arithmetic. 10 Mflop performance no longer as impressive as it u

Re: Greaseweazle

2021-02-03 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 01:09:50AM -0800, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > On 2/2/2021 11:51 PM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: >> The Raspberry Pi Pico has a similar price to the Blue Pill and seems a >> much better machine for this task, although I haven't combed through its

Re: APL\360

2021-02-03 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 08:50:56PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2/1/2021 6:07 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: [...] >> You're describing a failing in C and similar languages stuck in the >> 1960s. Here's a Rust method that does add-exposing-carry: >> https:

Re: Greaseweazle

2021-02-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 09:20:01AM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: [...] > When I last proposed the STM32F407, I was met with "Oh, but the Blue Pill > is cheaper". Okay, use the Blue Pill, but my code won't work with it. Not > once has anyone contacted me and said "I'd like to try my hand at d

Re: APL\360

2021-02-02 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 08:15:25PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 20:00, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: >> I had always been told, "A pint is a pound, the world around." "The world" meaning "the USA", of course. > Aha! Does that mean a pint of water weighs 1lb? Yes

Re: APL\360

2021-02-01 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 01:12:55PM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: [...] > Most old (pre S/360) digit/character-addressable architectures were > big-endian (i.e. higher-order characters occupied lower addresses) > Even PDP-11 isn't strictly little-endian, though Intel X86 definitely is. I not

Re: APL\360

2021-02-01 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 02:05:37PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > I don't see languages in general have improved since the the mid > 1960's. Hardware and language models don't reflect each other, > and don't have extendable data sizes and types. > PL/I seems to have been the best,but too tied

Re: APL\360

2021-01-29 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: [...] > In 1999, a fellow student in a UML course worked for a large information > company (Reuters, I think?) and told me that they had embarked on an > expensive s/w conversion project. Their back-end systems were implemente

Re: APL\360

2021-01-29 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 07:43:13PM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: [...] > APL was difficult for those used to traditional programming languages, not > primarily because of the character set, but because it's basically a > vector/matrix programming language. It is *also* the use of symbols. F

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2021-01-01 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 07:43:12PM -0800, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: > Disclaimer: I don't speak for Google ... > The thread shows a lot of Google bashing. Insinuating that Google makes it > difficult so that people follow the path of least resistance is part of > that. I didn't insinuate

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:13:40AM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: [...] > Attempting to pull in this thread a tad, there are relatively simple > measures that can be taken to bring a private mail server into compliance > with gmail, Amazon, Microsoft level mail server protocol and > authentic

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-29 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:12:09PM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: [...] > For those of you who run your own mail servers please consider updating > your DNS / authentication to match gmail standards. Google has more resources than me. How about they update their systems to match Internet ema

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 08:09:04PM +0100, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > On 15-12-2020 10:40, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> It's nothing new. 15y ago or something, there were umpteen Communities on >> Livejournal for any conceivable subject or interest -- most created by >> kids without th

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-22 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:34:10AM +0100, mazzinia--- via cctalk wrote: > Interesting read, > What is your opinion of the Seagate exos 7e8 units ? (and does SED make any > difference in ensuring a bit more quality of the platters) I've not used them, but Exos disks ought to be be just fine. You d

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: [...] >>> It also turns out that £1 ≈ €1 ≈ $1. > Close, but no cigar. I just bought something from Europe 3 days ago. This rule of thumb only applies to stuff imported from the USA to Europe, or from anywhere to the UK. It

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 02:54:27PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: >> Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very >> nice. >> The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is

Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??

2020-11-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:20:36PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [...] >> But yesterday, I discovered that the 'L' in words such as "palm", "balm" and >> "psalm" is _no longer_ silent and is actively pronounced in some regions of >> the US, and mere surprise was no longer adequate and I was f

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:37:23AM -0500, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote: [...] > HGST. 4TB seem really good. I have a half-dozen of those in raidz2 on my workstation and can confirm. HGST disks are good enough that WD bought them, declared them to be so good that they are clearly Enterprise drive

Re: non-shunting jumpers?

2020-10-23 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:30:40AM -0700, brian--- via cctalk wrote: > Oddball question here: has anyone ever seen a way to cap off or protect > standard 0.1" pin header jumpers? I prefer to not leave boards in places where stuff like pin headers can be damaged. And really, pin headers are the lea

Re: Digitizing video frame for printing

2020-09-28 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 03:12:50PM +0200, Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk wrote: > Sorry I accidentally deleted this message from Dag Spicer, so here it is > for cctalk. Reply to him or the list, not me! [I'm not going to attempt to clean-up the top-quoted mess; check your archive if you can't remem

Re: Exploring early GUIs

2020-09-22 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:29:14PM -0500, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote: > The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late 1985. > AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows. Er, no. The Amiga's operating system is a pre-emptive multitasking microkernel which us

Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-30 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:02:50AM -0500, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: [...] > I found it next to impossible to find information on what - if any - > technology a particular SSD uses to extend lifespan; while manufacturers all > compete on things like capacity and speed, very few of them seem

Re: Herbert Schildt C code from books

2020-08-27 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 07:11:05AM +, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: [...] > I hope you say no, because I will probably learn more by keying in the code > in the text, and finding my errors. The errors in the code will not be yours. You will learn more by throwing everything written by Herbert

Re: Alto II keyset connector plug identification

2020-08-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 04:38:49PM +1000, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: [...] > I had a thought, that if the pin spacing was on par with say a common 15-pin > VGA male connector I could buy a bunch of dirt cheap Golden Dragon ones, set > them up in the mill and run a high speed slitting saw diag

Re: Adventures online

2020-07-24 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:59:51AM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I would think to be a mainframe, it has to have a I/O processor. That is > about all I can think of. Contemporary PCs satisfy that description: GPUs are the most visible I/O processor, and all of the other bus interfaces such as

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-17 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 01:09:21PM -0700, Ali via cctalk wrote: [Hardware RAID controllers] >> There is no good use case for them in 2020, which is why they're all >> suddenly quite cheap. > Why do you say that? Not disagreeing per se but just wondering the reasoning > behind it. On the "no good u

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-16 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 08:52:16AM -0700, Ali via cctalk wrote: [...] > This is an article (for the layman) written in 2010 predicting the lack of > usability of RAID 6 by 2019: > www.zdnet.com/article/why-raid-6-stops-working-in-2019/. I found the math in > it interesting and the conclusions prett

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-15 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:47:11AM -0700, Ali via cctalk wrote: [...] > Is there any reason a Smart Array controller can't be used as a simple SCSI > controller? I.E. No array, just using it to drive a tape library? TIA! In general, hardware RAID controllers cannot be used as ordinary controllers.

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-09 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 01:24:11PM +0200, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote: [...] > Vikt (tittade pga frågan om diskarna på vad frakten från Nederländerna skulle > kosta dvs ca 250 SEK) ? According to Google Translate: "how much to Sweden?" For Sweden specifically, about €10 or SEK100. For Europe

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-08 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 03:54:10PM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: [...] > If I needed one of those drives, I'd be willing to pay $1 / GB plus shipping > and handling if they were known to be good. (If I needed them) I would buy > them sight unseen if you ran SpinRite level 2 on the drives an

Re: On: raising the semantic level of a program

2020-06-28 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 01:32:02PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: [...] > Why is byte-granularity in addressing a necessity? Because C's strings are broken by design and require one to be able to form a pointer to individual characters. > It's only an issue if you have instructions that ope

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