[cctalk] Re: Q-bus, PDP8, VAX items

2025-06-26 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Hello, Do you by any chance have Vaxstation 4000 models or motherboards at hobbyist prices? Or anything like an inventory of your Qbus boards? Other than that, I'm interested in a BA23, disk controllers (RQDX3 or SCSI), DELQA/DEQNA. Also a KJD11-B (m7554) and some PMI memory for it, so I can r

[cctalk] Re: Wanted: DEC ba23 or ba123 chassis

2025-05-16 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Friday, May 16, 2025 at 12:13:30 PM PDT, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >They are hybrid -  BA23 has slots 1-3 as Q22/CD and then 4-8 are Q22/Q22 >I believe the BA123 is Slots 1-4 Q22/CD and 4-12 are Q22/Q22 BA123 has 4 Q22/CD slots and the rest are Q22/Q22. There is another slot be

[cctalk] Re: Classic computers with more than one stack pointer, but not FORTH machines.

2025-02-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, February 20, 2025 at 10:52:49 AM PST, paul.kimpel--- via cctalk wrote: > What is the problem with ISRs running in a user stack? The ISR runs, exits, > the stack is cut back, > and net effect on the user's stack is zero. In general, since the user can write their own address sp

[cctalk] Re: RS232 then and now (bitbanging)

2025-02-02 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 11:47:24 AM PST, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: > [...] "bit banging" (imo) is the > host system doing the work of producing the start/stop bits on its own. > Which seems to be a "lost art" and why I've wondered if anyone has tried > bit-banging on a modern-day 3

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-24 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 12:33:45 PM PST, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: > The theory that the earth is flat is clearly disproven. Aristotle worked > it it was basically spherical, yet crackpots believe it's flat to this > day - often because their scripture said otherwise. Aristot

[cctalk] Re: Delay slots, was: Re: Re: early microprocessor limited pipelining [was: Intel 8086 - 46 yrs. ago]

2024-06-13 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 03:00:22 PM PDT, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote: > The architecture designers cheated however even in the original ISA in > that moves from the MD accumulator did interlock.  I guess they figured > people (either doing it by hand or by writing a compiler) woul

[cctalk] Re: Delay slots, was: Re: Re: early microprocessor limited pipelining [was: Intel 8086 - 46 yrs. ago]

2024-06-13 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 12:56:09 PM PDT, Christian Kennedy via cctalk wrote: [[ ...compiler, or human writing assembler, responsible for avoiding hazards in MIPS delay slots ]] MIPS is of course (allegedly) an acronym for "Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stages". No

[cctalk] Re: The MAC at 40

2024-01-24 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 02:16:44 PM PST, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: [...] > But basically, Jobs never stole anything.  He was pretty much invited to > take a look, and then entered into some sort of exclusivity deal (I may be > wrong about this detail) to use Xerox tech.  Xer

[cctalk] Re: VAX 4000-200 in BA215 chassis. Can I install a KFQSA card and connect the cabinet disks to it?

2024-01-02 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 11:29:36 AM PST, thomasdzubin--- via cctalk wrote: > Can I install the KFQSA card in my 4000-200, disconnect the internal disks > from the SHAC and connect the disks to the KFQSA thereby allowing NetBSD >to > run? Oh wait, your "Vax 4000-200" is a KA660 in a

[cctalk] Re: VAX 4000-200 in BA215 chassis. Can I install a KFQSA card and connect the cabinet disks to it?

2024-01-02 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 11:29:36 AM PST, thomasdzubin--- via cctalk wrote: > Can I install the KFQSA card in my 4000-200, disconnect the internal disks > from the SHAC and connect the disks to the KFQSA thereby allowing NetBSD >to > run? Ive read (here?) that he BA430 has special magi

[cctalk] Re: Free Fujitsu M2444 6250 BPI tape drive

2023-09-28 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Hi, has this found a new home? If not, Is it Pertec-compatible? I live on the Peninsula and I have a pickup truck. I'll find it a hom if the alternative is landfill. thanks -Jonatahn Stone On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:05:04 PM PDT, Len Shustek via cctalk wrote: I bought t

[cctalk] Connecting MFM emulator as both 1st and 2nd drive in Microvax 2000?

2023-08-12 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
I have a Gesswein MFM emulator from decromancer.ca; who offer an adaptor that yields a 2nd MFM data connector. I'll use mine in a Microvax 2000. Does anyone know how to hook it up as two MFM drives in a Microvax 2000? The vendor sold a 1in high adaptor box, BA40A, with DD50 connectors to a sec

[cctalk] Re: IBM RT Graphics

2023-06-08 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 05:20:28 AM PDT, Santo Nucifora via cctalk wrote: > I bought mine from this ebay auction:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/171649843131 >Specifically, the "D-SUB 3W3 Male" item.  [...] Note these are 50 Ohm impedance. I always assumed the OEM originals were 75 Ohm. I've

[cctalk] Re: ReGIS converter

2022-07-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Digital Equipment Corp. VK100, aka GIGI. Try searching for "DEC GIGI" On Thursday, July 21, 2022, 06:59:20 PM PDT, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 7/21/22 6:30 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > Indeed.  I've fiddled with Sixel in xterm, for example. I've got both Sixel and ReGIS

Also WTB: DEC VSXXX-AA Mouse or Compatible

2022-02-11 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
If available, I'd like to purchase a bunch. I am setting up a lab to work on X11 (and then accelerated X11) support for NetBSD, on: - Vaxstation II - Vaxstation II/GPX - vaxstation 2000 with 8-plane GPX, and mono if I can find another chassis - microvax 3100 with. mono, GPX, and/or SPX - DE

Re: 2 microvax 3800's for sale

2022-01-26 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 01:34:34 PM PST, devin davison via cctalk wrote: [...] >Im looking to get some offers and see what i can expect to get for them. [...] > For comparison purposes, recycledgoods.com has listed a couple of BA213 chassis, still unsold, for at least 18 months. (th

Re: 2 microvax 3800's for sale

2022-01-26 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
The first system says no storage. Second system is unspecified. A KA655 does not have onboard DSSI, so DSSI would be via KFQSA/M7769. I've expressed interest in at least one system, tho shipping to California will cost about as much as the hardware. On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:49:50

microvax/vs 2000 expansion base circuitry ?

2021-09-23 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
I've read that there is circuitry in the expansion base (BA40A?) has circuitry . Does anyone know what the circuitry does? Is it required for SCSI operation? (I hope not, or I'll have to kludge one up to make use of pk2k SCSI boot-roms!)

Re: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 01:37:28 PM PDT, Jonathan Chapman wrote: >> The DEC-badged Data-IO " on eBay is tempting, but expensive, and I don't >> know where to find software. >If it is just a regular Data I/O underneath, head over to the groups.io page: > >https://groups.io/g/Dataio

Re: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 05:39:23 AM PDT, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote: >I've tried this almost 2 years before..and it worked "somewhat". >An VS2000 booted up in the first stage but the NetBSD Kernel couldn't >mount root since nothing in the loader expected a disk at the NCR SCSI >inter

Re: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:02:38 AM PDT, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > My recollection is that the MicroVAX 2000 SCSI isn't complete and was > only intended for the tape unit. Whether its performance beats an RD54 > will be interesting to see. The ROM/VMB support certainly isn'

Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:04:22 AM PDT, Josh Dersch wrote: [...] >No, there's no QBus involved here.  The M7452 "UNIBUS Window Module" connects >the VS100 to the VAX via a fiber-optic link. thanks for the correction. I wonder what I was mis-remembering. maybe a QBus-to-Unibus?  

Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:17:33 AM PDT, Chris Zach via cctech wrote: > How the hell did I miss *that*? Cool beans device, I've never heard of a > VS100. Was it in a Rainbow sized box or a Pro/350 box? If old memories serve, you'd also need the Unibus-to-Qbus converter. I recall a

Re: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 09:15:20 AM PDT, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> On Sep 21, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Jonathan Stone via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> The RD53s in both Microvax 2000s are dead. I'm reluctant to buy more 30+ >> year old rotating m

Re: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-21 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
The RD53s in both Microvax 2000s are dead. I'm reluctant to buy more 30+ year old rotating media. If I'm going to buy a disk emulator, I'd much prefer SCSI to MFM, for the obvious performance reasons. Reseller price for a Maxtor XT-2190 (RD54) is just over US $1000. Disk Emulators are signific

Re: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
know what type of ROM/PROM is needed Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Jonathan Stone > via cctalk > Sent: 20 September 2021 20:02 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org; port-...@netbsd.org > Subject: Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM image

Burnable, patched Microvax-2000 SCSI-boot EPROM images?

2021-09-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
I recently rescued two Microvax-2000s but both have dead RD53s.  Does anyone have a ROMable image of the Microvax 2000/Vaxstation 2000 boot-PROM patches from Wolfgang Moeller at http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/vms/pk2k/ ?   I'm looking to install NetBSD, not VMS and I don't have any VMS systems on which

Re: Micropolis 1525 stuck heads

2021-09-19 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
I had suggested a hair-dryer, as recommended circa 20 years ago for drive "stiction" after disuse. It seems that worked. On Sunday, September 19, 2021, 08:58:57 PM PDT, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I have simply opened and physically moved the disk counter clockwise a turn, in a clea

John Foust via cctalk

2021-09-18 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Hello, You mentioned a VAXstation and a Microvax. What encosures are they in? (That will affect shipping costs). Is the micro-pdp/11 in a BA23 with complete skins? thanks -Jonathan Stone

Re: Ultrix-11 Networking

2021-08-28 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
The old-school way to do this is to install inetd, ensure it gets started up, and uncomment the line in its config-file (/etc/inetd.conf ?) for telnet. Setting up an ftp chroot area is painful. If you're using cleartext passwords (telnet) anyway, I'd set up rlogin/rsh, and use rcp. Same story:

VaxBrick (vax 4000-50, KA600 ) Owners manual/technical manual

2021-07-17 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Doe anyone have an "owners manual" or technical manual for the KA600 aka VaxBrick aka Vax 4000-50? I have most of a Vaxbrick, but I'd sooner run Unix on it that VMS. But I know of no open-source OS which supports the KA600. I'd guess most of the internal devices are similar to SCSI or DSSI on h

Re: VAXstation 4000/vlc mouse issue

2021-06-01 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 09:39:41 AM PDT, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote: >The described behavior is what you'd get in X11 if the middle-button is "stuck >on" (autorepeating) after being pressed the first time, >and you move the >mouse. Not sure if that helps,

Re: VAXstation 4000/vlc mouse issue

2021-06-01 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
The described behavior is what you'd get in X11 if the middle-button is "stuck on" (autorepeating) after being pressed the first time, and you move the mouse. Not sure if that helps, though.

Re: MicroVAX 3300/3400

2021-05-27 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021, 09:14:16 PM PDT, Zane Healy wrote: [[ reference to service manual for converting BA400 to BA400X ]] >Do you happen to know what Manual this is?  I’ve spent a lot of the last >couple days reading up on the BA430/B400X, and the :KA640/KA660. I looked for it before

Re: MicroVAX 3300/3400

2021-05-26 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021, 03:38:43 PM PDT, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote: Please ignore point 2. Even the KN220 uses an M9715 in the slot between its CVAX I/O board and the power supply.

Re: MicroVAX 3300/3400

2021-05-26 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021, 02:35:32 PM PDT, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: [] two points: 1. MS650-AA 8mb modules from a KA650 will work in a KA640. They won't work with a KA655 or a kA660 (or a KN210_. Those need the MS650-BA, or the 16MB MS650-BB, or the third-party 32MB modules. S

Re: Mounting ULTRIX CDROMs on Linux

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
e-block CD-ROM ? If the former, I guess I'll have to find an old, 512-byte-block jumperable SCSI CD burner. On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 02:15:39 PM PDT, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote: On 5/20/21 11:05 PM, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote: >  MacOS (Mojave) can mount an ima

Re: Mounting ULTRIX CDROMs on Linux

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
MacOS (Mojave) can mount an image read from a 512-byte UFS CD. What does one have to do (Linux, MacOS, *BSD) to write such an image to the CD with 512-byte blocks, so it can be read by a DEC boot-ROM?

Re: Mounting ULTRIX CDROMs on Linux

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Ultrix UFS is 4.2SD plus some big fixes. It's definitely pre-4.3BSD. So 44BSD won't work. I hit fsck errors anytime I mounted Ultrix FFS read-write with (very early NetBSD). You may be better off if you can try with *BSD. OSF1/Digital Unix/Tru64 has a newer FFS, definitely 4.3BSD or newer -- p

Re: VAXstation 4000 Mice?

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Speak of the devil: https://www.ebay.com/itm/393325339070

Re: VAXstation 4000 Mice?

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 11:53:50 AM PDT, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 20/05/2021 18:22, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote: > It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round puck) or a VSXXX-AB > tablet (or compatible). \ > I recently checked both installation guide an

Re: VAXstation 4000 Mice?

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 10:38:56 AM PDT, Malte Dehling via cctalk wrote: > The VSXXX-GA mouse or VSXXX-AB tablet is the correct model for the 4000 > series, but the older puck mouse (VSXXX-AA) will work as well. Exactly, since the -GA is compatible with the -AA. And the MoseTrack model M5

Re: VAXstation 4000 Mice?

2021-05-20 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 10:16:03 AM PDT, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >. What sort of mice does a VAXstation 4000 (vlc/60/90) take?  I’m pretty sure >they don’t need a DEC “hockey puck” mouse. It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round puck) or a VSXXX-AB tablet (or compatible). \

Re: LK201 emulator for PS-2 keyboard

2021-05-12 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:12:15 AM PDT, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 12/05/2021 17:53, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > The normal mouse specs are in VCB02 Video Subsystem Technical Manual, > EK-104AA-TM-001 (appendix C). > >The LK201 is in there too. It's possibly in the VCB0

Re: LK201 emulator for PS-2 keyboard

2021-05-11 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 10:49:05 AM PDT, Paul Koning via cctech wrote: > Last year I created an LK201 keyboard emulator that uses a USB keyboard. Just curious; have you thought of adding VSXXX-?? mouse emulation, using input from either USB or PS/2 mouse? With a mini-DIN output? These ar

Re: That VAXStation4000vlc 3W3 video connector

2021-05-03 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
You need a video cable with a 3W3 connector on one end. Original was likely a DEC BC29G-10. That, plus 5BNC-to-VGA cables, and 3 F/F BNC barrels, will work with a multisync monitor that handles sync-on-green. I just went through this with several DECstations, where the Turbochannel graphics op

Re: Digital DEC 3000

2021-04-26 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
Hello Rob, If you end up parting this out to others who have dying motherboards or PSUs: How much RAM does it have? I bought a 3000/700 last week on eBay, it's supposed to arrive this week. For what it's worth: I have about a dozen Turbochannel machines that I'm slowly reviving, to work on Net

Re: DEC H8575-A DB25 to MMJ

2021-04-02 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
 Google Shopping shows the PA2067 MMJ die available at 3 online stores.  Digi-Key lists it too. What are the pros and cons of the die and a PA8000 CrimpALL, versus the IEC  tool ( https://iec.net/product/modular-crimp-tool-for-rj11-dec-mmj-connectors/)  ? If one either already has an RJ45 crimp to