[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 9:16 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > We can unsubscribe? > > No -Once you give your email over, it's there forever :-) > > Kindest regards, > > Doug Jackson 1997 OG ClassicCmp'er represent. Sellam > >

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I vote for cat. Julf On 30/08/2024 04:02, cz via cctalk wrote: ED! ED MAN! MAN ED! Ed is the standard text editor.. On 8/29/2024 9:50 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk wrote: On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious war

[cctalk] Re: Antonio's call for donations (was LCM auction)

On 29/08/2024 23:28, Mychaela Falconia via cctalk wrote: Specifically: I am potentially willing to donate my equipment and/or my cash only to those who are Pureblood, meaning UNvaccinated. I assume you are aware that child mortality was 50% well into the 20th century, and was still 25% in 1950.

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

We can unsubscribe? No -Once you give your email over, it's there forever :-) Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 at 13:49, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > Help. Unsubscibe. Jane, get me off

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Help. Unsubscibe. Jane, get me off this crazy list.

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> Ed's dead baby. Ed's dead. Dave? Dave's not here, man. mcl

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We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: Apple II vs. IBM PC vs. Commodore 64 vs. Atari 800 vs Radio Shack TRS-80 vs... DOSPLUS vs NEWDOS-80 Electric Pencil vs. Scripsit Pre-CP/M Electric Pencil vs TRS80 releas

[cctalk] Re: VCFMW items available upon request

I think most people here would disagree with you. How many people would scrap a KI10, 11/20, PDP8 or any piece of classic computer equipment if it was not "working in proper order"? I usually discuss this with the potential buyer. I have never heard a technically skilled person say that. Paul O

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 6:29 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. > > -- > Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com Apple II vs. IBM PC vs. Commodore 64 vs. Atari 800 vs Radio Shack TRS-80 vs... Sellam

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On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 9:02 PM cz via cctalk wrote: > > ED! > > ED MAN! Ed's dead baby. Ed's dead.

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ED! ED MAN! MAN ED! Ed is the standard text editor.. On 8/29/2024 9:50 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk wrote: On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. Now you've done it ;)

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 8/29/24 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [snip] We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. Now you've done it ;) -- Christian Kennedy, Ph.D. ch...@mainecoon.com AF6AP | DB0692 | PG00029419 http://www.mainecoon.comPGP KeyID 108DAB97 PGP finger

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And then there's the story in the bible about Jesus throwing the people selling indulgences (and other things) out of the temple?😮 That kind of thing has been going on for thousands of years.  It predates Catholicism but became a part of the Catholic Church in the 11th and 12 centuries. This

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Carnegie (and Gates) were only figuratively "buying their way into heaven". I don't think that either did it for religious reasons. Although most would assume that it is a religious issue, that was not my intent. The specific example that I gave is non-religious. "I have learned that no goo

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 8/29/2024 2:46 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? He might collect something but I doubt it has anything to do with computers. I don't think he ever had any interest in computers other than as a means to get rich. And at the time he s

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Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Yes He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds with a large part of the money. Look at the Carnegie libraries. On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Paul Koning wrote: In a

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> On Aug 29, 2024, at 7:21 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: >> Hasn't he promised to give his money away... > > Yes > He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, > and then "buy your way into heaven

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Yes He is a follower of Carnegie. Ruthlessly make an enormous amount of money, and then "buy your way into heaven" by doing good deeds with a large part of the money. Look at the Carnegie lib

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

Hasn't he promised to give his money away... Dave > -Original Message- > From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 7:55 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Cc: Wayne S ; Sellam Abraham > > Subject: [cctalk] Re: LCM auction > > Yes, he

[cctalk] Antonio's call for donations (was LCM auction)

Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > If everyone on this list sends me just 0.5% of their total wealth, I > promise to try really hard to preserve some retro computing stuff. Honest. If total wealth means cash or assets that can be readily and reliably converted into cash (i.e., if giant stashes

[cctalk] Re: VCFMW items available upon request

In article you write: >Here is a list of some items I can bring to VCFMW if requested. [...] Unless they are qualified as working in proper order, they are just scrap and should be priced accordingly. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book The

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 29/08/2024 17:27, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? Let me start by saying

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

> On 08/29/2024 2:56 PM EDT Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > > > I know and he’s good at it! > Besides money though. > Sent from my iPhone > politicians > On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:55, Sellam Abraham wrote: > > > > Yes, he collects money. > > Sellam > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM Wayne S

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

I know and he’s good at it! Besides money though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:55, Sellam Abraham wrote:  Yes, he collects money. Sellam On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM Wayne S via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he colle

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Yes, he collects money. Sellam On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:11, ben via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >>

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Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2024, at 11:11, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? >> For a few decades, we have been saying that >> "We must do

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? For a few decades, we have been saying that "We must do whatever it takes to make Bill Gates into a millionaire." it is called TAX!

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 2024-08-29 10:27 a.m., Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? Doug Find a billio

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Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? For a few decades, we have been saying that "We must do whatever it takes to make Bill Gates into a millionaire."

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>> Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? > > The joke doesn't work as well this way, but the old Texas joke > was "how do you become a Texas oil millionaire? Start by being > a Texas oil billionaire." Insert Ross Perot joke here. -- personal: http://ww

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> Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? The joke doesn't work as well this way, but the old Texas joke was "how do you become a Texas oil millionaire? Start by being a Texas oil billionaire." mcl

[cctalk] Re: 8P8C but width of an RJ-11

>>> It's 8P8C with a little offset snag >>> reminiscent of a DEC MMJ, but it's the width of an RJ-11: while an "RJ-45" >>> Ethernet cable is too wide, a phone handset cord is the right width even >>> though >>> it obviously doesn't have enough connectors. I messed around with filing >>> down

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

The solution is right in front of us.   One of us here has to become a multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff!  Let the fighting and bickering begin! Any ideas on how to become a billionaire? Doug

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I used to think museums were the only right place for historic items, and despite being a collector myself, I used to kind of not love things disappearing into private collections.  But I realize now private collections are a fairly efficient, cost effective and safe way for things to be preserv

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> > > Maybe we need a new law, we will call it Allen's law and it is directly > related to Moore's law. As computers become obsolete faster and faster > the space, time and money to preserve them increases respectively. > > > ooo! That's good! Bill

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Unless the museum has an large enough endowment to take care of itself and grow it will fail. I'm sure even the Smithsonian discards items that is can no longer afford to house.  And that is after it has sat in storage for years. Whether publicly, privately or government funded expenses and t

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

> On Aug 29, 2024, at 10:45 AM, John Foust via cctalk > wrote: > > At 07:11 AM 8/29/2024, cz via cctalk wrote: >> The purpose of a museum is to destroy history. > > Ridiculous. Do the math. If there was a computer so magical and historically > significant because only 100 of them were made

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

At 07:11 AM 8/29/2024, cz via cctalk wrote: >The purpose of a museum is to destroy history. Ridiculous. Do the math. If there was a computer so magical and historically significant because only 100 of them were made, and 95 of them were scrapped long ago by individual and corporate owners, and

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

> On Aug 29, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 8/29/2024 8:11 AM, cz via cctalk wrote: >>> Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare >>> artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for >>> themselves. >> Nev

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 5:12 AM cz via cctalk wrote: > > Then when the ignorant mobs come they have a single place to torch to > remove the heresy and treason counter to the current "beliefs". And it's > all gone. > ...visions of the Computer History Museum being sacked by Mostly Peaceful protesto

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 8/29/2024 8:11 AM, cz via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. Never have been. If there is one thing in life I have learned it's that the purpose of a museu

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. Never have been. If there is one thing in life I have learned it's that the purpose of a museum is not to preserve history. The purpose of

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. See Paul Allen’s Living Computers: Museum article. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/paul-allens-living-computers-museum-labs-will-cl