Re: Logic Analysers

2017-02-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Adrian Graham > wrote: >> >> Whilst looking for better quality units I came across a couple of >> 'proper' HP/Agilent analysers, a 1663A 34 channel and 1661A 102 >> channel which seem complete apart from the chip leg grabbers. Am I >> right to assume some of you

Re: Logic Analysers

2017-02-01 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: > > Whilst looking for better quality units I came across a couple of 'proper' > HP/Agilent analysers, a 1663A 34 channel and 1661A 102 channel which seem > complete apart from the chip leg grabbers. Am I right to assume some of you > might have

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
> > > > Just to check, you have 128KB of memory, and 2 RL02 drives, right? That > will > make it all really easy, if so. > > I have a 1/2 populated M7891 > Like I said, I'll make you a mini-disk that will be quick to load with > GUI11, > with only the only files on it the few you need to be able

Re: Logic Analysers

2017-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2017 05:18 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: Evening folks, I have two so-called Logic Analysers, both cheap Chinese clones of other more expensive units that hook up to the host via USB2 and stream readings direct to software, in one case the open source Sigrok and in the other genuine Saleae L

RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > Yes, GCC should do that correctly. ... Dealing with the output might be > a nuisance ... You may need some post-processing to cast the output > into the syntax that V6 "as" expects. Actually, dealing with the _input_ is going to be a PITA (so my suggestion wa

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > if possible can you help me to link in m40.o instead of m45.o? Sure; tomorrow, though, not tonight. Just to check, you have 128KB of memory, and 2 RL02 drives, right? That will make it all really easy, if so. Like I said, I'll make you a mini-disk that will be q

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 1, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: William Degnan > >> I do not have an EIS installed. I have one however, I can try it. I am >> unsure if it's good or not, but I guess I am going to find out. > > Oh yeah, without that, you're totally hosed, Unix-wise. The V6 C compil

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
> > > you'll also need to recompile the kernel > > Actually, I don't think you need to re-compile anything, just link in m40.o > instead of m45.o; I think all the C code checks for 'cputyp == 40' or > whatever, as the case may be. > > Noel If I get farther with an EIS, if possible can

Logic Analysers

2017-02-01 Thread Adrian Graham
Evening folks, I have two so-called Logic Analysers, both cheap Chinese clones of other more expensive units that hook up to the host via USB2 and stream readings direct to software, in one case the open source Sigrok and in the other genuine Saleae Logic. I'm getting different and inconsistent r

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > I do not have an EIS installed. I have one however, I can try it. I am > unsure if it's good or not, but I guess I am going to find out. Oh yeah, without that, you're totally hosed, Unix-wise. The V6 C compiler puts out MUL etc all over the place (e.g. for str

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:08 PM, william degnan wrote: > > > > > > > > That sounds like the bootstrap isn't running properly. > > > > Oh, I remember an issue I had with the boostrap when first trying to > bring > > up > > Unix in Ersatz-11 - does your -11/40 have the EIS board? Is the EIS > > wor

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:08 PM, william degnan wrote: > >> >> That sounds like the bootstrap isn't running properly. >> >> Oh, I remember an issue I had with the boostrap when first trying to >> bring up >> Unix in Ersatz-11 - does your -11/40 have the EIS board? Is the EIS >> working? >> If not

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
> > > > That sounds like the bootstrap isn't running properly. > > Oh, I remember an issue I had with the boostrap when first trying to bring > up > Unix in Ersatz-11 - does your -11/40 have the EIS board? Is the EIS > working? > If not, the bootstrap won't run - it uses the MUL instruction. (MUL

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> William Degnan > It "boots" to the ! prompt at least there's that. Yeah, but not much has to be working for that to happen! :-) > I am unsure if one can put an M7891 into a slot that has no NPG jumper > installed Yes, you can - but having a slot with no NPG jumper, and either

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
> > > I'd like to get another M7891, mine is only 1/2 populated. > > Oh, so that must have been 64KW - 128KB. That will give you plenty of room > for > a decent-sized kernel, and user processes. Wonder why it won't boot, then? > > It "boots" to the ! prompt at least there's that. > Anyway, th

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > > 64K. > > That's 64KB, right? DEC used to talk of PDP-11 memory in words, back in the > day, so it's never quite clear unless the 'B' or 'W' is specified. > > Anyway, 64KB out to be enough to run most thing

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > 64K. That's 64KB, right? DEC used to talk of PDP-11 memory in words, back in the day, so it's never quite clear unless the 'B' or 'W' is specified. Anyway, 64KB out to be enough to run most things. I have't looked to see how big a system with just RL and DL driv

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread ben
On 2/1/2017 1:26 PM, william degnan wrote: The build just finished. When I boot I get the ! prompt, but when I type rlinux the system bombs and I can go no farther Bill sorry I mean rlunix, but typing anything kills the CPU and I have to restart the system.. b That is "the something bet

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:13 PM, william degnan wrote: > >> >> Anyway, try it, and let us know what happens. How much memory does the >> system >> have on it now? >> >> > 64K. I'd like to get another M7891, mine is only 1/2 populated. > > >> >> If it doesn't work, I can do some experiments and s

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
> > > > Anyway, try it, and let us know what happens. How much memory does the > system > have on it now? > > 64K. I'd like to get another M7891, mine is only 1/2 populated. > > If it doesn't work, I can do some experiments and see what's the least > amount > of memory one needs. > > There are

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > doesn't hurt to try I suppose Absolutely. > My fear is that it will not have enough RAM on top of whatever other > issues are present. Oooh, good point - I hadn't thought of that. I couldn't quickly find a 'minimum memory required' in the release notes

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > > Can one be made using simH to dump and set up for RL02 that can then > be > > ported as a RL02 disk image to actual RL02 drive? > > I see someone has already provided a pointer to someone who ha done t

Re: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread dwight
I think it is a register board. Something to hold data through a power down. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Paul Koning Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:06:55 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Please identify this cir

Re: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 1, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 1, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: >> >> Mr. Havermout wrote: >> >>> Can someone identify this circuit board? It's some sort of magnetic core >>> memory. I've had this for ages and I've always wondered what it is and >>> w

Re: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 1, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: > > Mr. Havermout wrote: > >> Can someone identify this circuit board? It's some sort of magnetic core >> memory. I've had this for ages and I've always wondered what it is and >> where it comes from. >> >> http://lookpic.com/O/i2/366/iAFq4mLF

RE: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-02-01 Thread dave . g4ugm
It fails DMARC verification. AOL has published. Google knows the original sender was an AOL.COM address. It faILS. Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Peter > Coghlan > Sent: 01 February 2017 10:36 > To: General Discussion: On-To

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > Can one be made using simH to dump and set up for RL02 that can then be > ported as a RL02 disk image to actual RL02 drive? I see someone has already provided a pointer to someone who ha done this; I'm not sure if that system will boot on a hardware 11/40, or

Re: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
Looks like a driver board (row or column) for an EMM core memory. A lot of stuff has been scavenged from the board, which makes ID more difficult. --Chuck

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM, william degnan wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Angelo Papenhoff wrote: > >> On 01/02/17, william degnan wrote: >> > I thought this question was answered recently but I can't find the >> answer. >> > I have the RK disk version of UNIX6 for PDP 11/40

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Angelo Papenhoff wrote: > On 01/02/17, william degnan wrote: > > I thought this question was answered recently but I can't find the > answer. > > I have the RK disk version of UNIX6 for PDP 11/40 but I could not find an > > RL02 version. does this exist? Can one

Re: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/31/2017 02:46 PM, ilco havermout wrote: Hi, Can someone identify this circuit board? It's some sort of magnetic core memory. I've had this for ages and I've always wondered what it is and where it comes from. http://lookpic.com/O/i2/366/iAFq4mLF.jpeg Best regards That is certainly a par

RE: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread Rick Bensene
Mr. Havermout wrote: > Can someone identify this circuit board? It's some sort of magnetic core > memory. I've had this for ages and I've always wondered what it is and > where it comes from. > > http://lookpic.com/O/i2/366/iAFq4mLF.jpeg > Whatever this was, it appears that it has been scavenge

RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
I thought this question was answered recently but I can't find the answer. I have the RK disk version of UNIX6 for PDP 11/40 but I could not find an RL02 version. does this exist? Can one be made using simH to dump and set up for RL02 that can then be ported as a RL02 disk image to actual RL02 dr

Re: RL02 version of UNIX6?

2017-02-01 Thread Angelo Papenhoff
On 01/02/17, william degnan wrote: > I thought this question was answered recently but I can't find the answer. > I have the RK disk version of UNIX6 for PDP 11/40 but I could not find an > RL02 version. does this exist? Can one be made using simH to dump and set > up for RL02 that can then be po

Re: RT-11 Basic source available

2017-02-01 Thread Noel Chiappa
> Here: > http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/macro.tar > is a tar file with the whole works, along with the MACRO-11 source. BASIC is not ready yet, and won't be for a few days. The problem is that I can't get it to assemble into a working version, which I would like to do, bef

Re: Looking for Eyring PDOS for TMS-9900

2017-02-01 Thread Walter Schubert
Hi Camiel Vanderhoeven I nearly got all about PDOS and the TM990 system..however only on 8" floopy disks. I also have the complete documentation and a TM990/100M system with a DRAM and a Floppy-Controller board. best regards Walter Schubert -- MicroSys Electronics GmbH, M?hlweg 1, D-8205

Re: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-02-01 Thread Mouse
>>> Can someone please fix the mailing list software? This has been >>> reported every once in a while by a bunch of people for over ten >>> years. >> Bounces aren't caused by the mailing list, they're caused by the >> destination mail server. Depends on how you view `cause'. My own mailserver i

Re: Please identify this circuit board

2017-02-01 Thread william degnan
On Feb 1, 2017 1:12 AM, "ilco havermout" wrote: > > Hi, > > Can someone identify this circuit board? It's some sort of magnetic core > memory. I've had this for ages and I've always wondered what it is and > where it comes from. > > http://lookpic.com/O/i2/366/iAFq4mLF.jpeg > > Best regards Could

Re: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-02-01 Thread Peter Coghlan
a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) wrote: > > Can someone please fix the mailing list software? This has been > reported every once in a while by a bunch of people for over ten > years. > I got "server failed" several times when I tried to look up the MX records for gnu.org. It seems to be working n

Re: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

2017-02-01 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > It's COURYHOUSE[sic]'s fault. His email setup doesn't comply with best > practices and so Gmail and other mail systems reject messages from him. > What you say may be true but I do not believe this is the root of the problem. (I also find it hard to see how you know whether Gmail and other mai