> On Aug 15, 2016, at 19:54, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> On August 15, 2016 3:08:10 PM CDT, Mark Linimon wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:49:29PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>> I still don't understand what his motivation is.
>>
>> It could just be mental illness :-(
>>
>
> I thought it was jus
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From: "tony duell"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts"
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: 5150/5151 Video Card??
> > ...The common Zenith MDA monitor, ... The one that combines the efficiency
> > of a linear with the reliability of a switcher
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Rik Bos wrote:
> No, they just blow the main fuse.
> The thyristor is a 2N4441.
>
> -Rik
>
> Van: Paul Berger
In my experience, 'blow the main fuse' is the usual approach with a crowbar
- in other words, trigger the protection device that already exists.
--
Ia
Dear reader,
For a serious enthusiast or museum I have available:
* Olivetti Programma 101 calculator
* DEC GT40 grapic display terminal
* DEC VT05, first DEC terminal
* DEC PC04 paper tape reader/punch for PDP-8
* DEC TU60 DECassette dual tape drive with two tapes mounted
* DEC VR14
He also posted on Craigslist:
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Also said on the forum:
I think I will probably open up on Saturday from 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM, too. And
if there is still stuff left over I will have two more days of sales on Friday
the 26th and Sunday the 28th.
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cant see it
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Sam O'nella wrote:
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> Original message From: John Ames
> Date: 8/15/16 9:29 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cctalk
> Subject: Large Mac liquidation in Denver, 8/21
> https:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote:
The most likely to work solutions are to use $ SET FILE /ATTRIBUTES or
Joe Meadows' FILE utility to change the file attributes from fixed 512 to
stream format. The CR-LF pairs in the file will then be treated as record
delimiters and the file will then
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Date: 8/15/16 9:29 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cctalk Subject:
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https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/28206-everything-must-go-denver-mac-sa
On August 15, 2016 3:08:10 PM CDT, Mark Linimon wrote:
>On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:49:29PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
>> I still don't understand what his motivation is.
>
>It could just be mental illness :-(
>
I thought it was just autocorrect on Android.
--
Chris Elmquist
https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/28206-everything-must-go-denver-mac-sale-sunday-821/
Not mine, but I wanted to spread the word about this since it's one of
those "take it or it goes to the dump" affairs...hopefully somebody
can make it out there for this.
[Apologies in advance for this reply not appearing in the thread for this
subject - I read the digest form of cctalk]
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:08:39 -0400
> From: Douglas Taylor
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>
> Subject: VAX file format conversion
> Message
> > Indeed. Think 'PARRY meets Dissociated Press'.
>
> Thank you.
> That explained why the content looked ALMOST relevant.
>
> The word and phrase usage would seem likely to be able to fool a Salton
> style vector space (cosine) relevance ranking system!
>
>
> I still don't understand what his mot
On vms say something like this:
$ help analyze
(pay attention to the parts about /rms and /fdl)
$ help convert
build and and edit an fdl file and then say something like:
$ convert /fdl=foo.fdl foo.old foo.new
sigh.
CONVERT is great for taking a file wi
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:49:29PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
> I still don't understand what his motivation is.
It could just be mental illness :-(
mcl
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On matters of historical technical accuracy, I've pretty much given up
on WikiP. Oh, it's still useful, but I find myself muttering to myself
"Vass you dere, Shollie?" when reading some of the stuff.
It doesn't really matter--in a couple of decades, we'll
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote:
Indeed. Think 'PARRY meets Dissociated Press'.
Thank you.
That explained why the content looked ALMOST relevant.
The word and phrase usage would seem likely to be able to fool a Salton
style vector space (cosine) relevance ranking system!
I still do
On 08/15/2016 11:43 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>> CDC management went a bit bonkers, re-christening old hardware with
>> the "Cyber" tag.
>
> You might with perfect validity just put a period after "bonkers" and
> omit the limiting phrase. :-)
Probably. I do remember a watershed moment in CDC hist
On 08/15/2016 11:18 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> I just looked at Wikipedia, and found some amazing errors, such as
> statement that IBM mono came along much later than CGA, caling it
> MDA instead of MDP, that Hercules innovatively had a "Centronics
> port" (sic) because that was much faster than the
> > ...The common Zenith MDA monitor, ... The one that combines the efficiency
> > of a linear with the reliability of a switcher.
> Double take, resulting in coffee in nasal cavity ... ;-)
I am not joking. This PSU is a 'classic'. Let me describe the circuit.
The monitor circuitry needs 12V D
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, tony duell wrote:
In any case it rarely costs you the monitor if you get it wrong. A
horizontal output transistor, sure. But they are not that expensive.
Yes, readily repairable, and therefore "cost a monitor" is an
exaggeration.
But, somebody who is still unaware of the p
> On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> On 08/15/2016 10:03 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/16 9:21 AM, william degnan wrote:
>>> one last commentlearning here, did not know the connection
>>> between cyber 70 and the 6600. Thanks
>>>
>>
>> yes, it's confusing and you are
On 08/15/2016 11:09 AM, Stephen Kitt wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:45:23 -0600, Warner Losh
> wrote: [...]
>> There was a raindrive.sys, iirc, that did this well enough for DOS
>> to access the files, but I can't find any copies of it now.
>
> The SimtelNet CDs had a RainDOS driver written by S
On 08/15/2016 10:03 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 8/15/16 9:21 AM, william degnan wrote:
>> one last commentlearning here, did not know the connection
>> between cyber 70 and the 6600. Thanks
>>
>
> yes, it's confusing and you aren't the first person confused by it.
If you had a 6400 and a Cyb
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:45:23 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
[...]
> There was a raindrive.sys, iirc, that did this well enough for DOS to
> access the files, but I can't find any copies of it now.
The SimtelNet CDs had a RainDOS driver written by Sydex; the last version I
can find is 1.21 (although th
If your looking for a new solution, Casparcg.com is high end freeware worth
looking at that was developed for on air work. For SGI Blender also free is the
weapon of choice. When it comes to legacy, Video Toaster was the thing that put
an A/B edit suit on a desktop and even did some on air work
- Original Message -
From: "tony duell"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts"
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: 5150/5151 Video Card??
> ...The common Zenith MDA monitor, ... The one that combines the efficiency of
> a linear with the reliability of a switcher.
D
> Does THIS particular board handle BOTH CGA and MDA frequencies?
> If not, telling him to connect his 5151 or "hercules" monitor, is going to
> cost him a monitor.
> If so, telling him to connect his 5151 or "hercules" monitor without the
> right switch settings, is going to cost him a monitor.
We are adressing this issue.
> Am 15.08.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Robert Ferguson :
>
>
>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>> On 8/15/16 6:58 AM, asw...@t-online.de wrote:
>>> A 6085 can run Viewpoint, GlobalView and Lisp.
>>
>> And Smalltalk-80 on the MPB 1, if we can figure out
On 8/15/16 9:52 AM, Brad H wrote:
> I've tried nailing down what terminal it came from looking at hundreds of
> pictures but no dice.
thanks. The keycaps are quite unique.
from looking at the text in the eproms, it was some remote forms-based dialup
display terminal
On 8/15/16 9:21 AM, william degnan wrote:
> one last commentlearning here, did not know the connection between
> cyber 70 and the 6600. Thanks
>
yes, it's confusing and you aren't the first person confused by it.
I will confess that was me that bought that thing. I've become a bit of a
keyboard aficionado ever since getting into my TVT project. Where they are of
a certain vintage I collect them either just to enjoy as a visual piece or to
use in some future project. $80 is up there but not at all unus
> On Aug 15, 2016, at 12:21 PM, william degnan wrote:
>
> one last commentlearning here, did not know the connection between
> cyber 70 and the 6600. Thanks
It's a bit confusing if you don't know the CDC model numbering.
The 6000 series (of which the 6600 is the first) was also called the
Sorry, that was my fault, it was sitting in the moderation queue. No
more, promise!
On 15/08/16 17:38, Jay West wrote:
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Checking
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Alexandre Souza wrote:
This is a CGA clone.
Apparently
It can work with CGA [monitors]
Presumably
and Hercules monitors/modes, and
really?
connecting a "hercules" monitor, such as a 5151 to CGA can damage the
monitor.
usually were switched by a program called MONO
>> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/cdc/
>
> That's odd -- I thought there used to be CDC 6600 material here?
it's under Cyber
No, they just blow the main fuse.
The thyristor is a 2N4441.
-Rik
Van: Paul Berger
What's the application? Is this for a museum installation or for a current live
production or post production? SGI's were used for high end work in the past,
but have been replaced by more commodity hardware.
-Rich Torpey
-Original Message-
From: Matt Patoray mspproducti...@gmail.com [OLD
Hello all,
I know that SGI machines are well know for high end 3D graphics that are
not real time (Jurassic Park, Forrest Gump and the like. But was there ever
any real time 2D/3D graphics programs for title generation to replace a
stand alone Chyron unit for making opening/closing titles and low
On 2016-08-15 10:58 AM, william degnan wrote:
I was checking bitsavers for CDC 6600 manuals. There are a lot of other
models but nothing for the 6600. There is not on the web technically about
the 6600 other than excerpts of Gordon Bell's book (which I have been
reading "Computer Structures Rea
one last commentlearning here, did not know the connection between
cyber 70 and the 6600. Thanks
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:19 PM, william degnan
wrote:
> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/cdc/cyber/cyber_70/
>
> has 6600, found it, thanks.
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:12 P
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/cdc/cyber/cyber_70/
has 6600, found it, thanks.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:12 PM, william degnan
wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:10 PM, william degnan
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:10 PM, william degnan
wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/16 7:58 AM, william degnan wrote:
>> > I was checking bitsavers for CDC 6600 manuals.
>>
>> they are under Cyber
>>
>>
>
> Where? I looked there too.
>
> --
> Bill
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> On 8/15/16 7:58 AM, william degnan wrote:
> > I was checking bitsavers for CDC 6600 manuals.
>
> they are under Cyber
>
>
Where? I looked there too.
--
Bill Degnan
> On Aug 15, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
> On 8/15/16 6:58 AM, asw...@t-online.de wrote:
>> A 6085 can run Viewpoint, GlobalView and Lisp.
>>
>
> And Smalltalk-80 on the MPB 1, if we can figure out how to start it.
>
I noticed that software in the archive, and it was one of my speci
Hello all,
I know that SGI machines are well know for high end 3D graphics that are
not real time (Jurassic Park, Forrest Gump and the like. But was there ever
any real time 2D/3D graphics programs for title generation to replace a
stand alone Chyron unit for making opening/closing titles and low
This account was unsubscribed not sure how this got through subsequently.
Checking
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bez
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:13 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re:
On 8/15/16 7:58 AM, william degnan wrote:
> I was checking bitsavers for CDC 6600 manuals.
they are under Cyber
On 8/15/16 6:58 AM, asw...@t-online.de wrote:
> A 6085 can run Viewpoint, GlobalView and Lisp.
>
And Smalltalk-80 on the MPB 1, if we can figure out how to start it.
Wow that is a nicely done add-on, It looks like it monitors +5 and +12
and crowbars the RAW +20. Did they insert any fuses? or do they rely
on that blowing the main fuse? That should be easy to duplicate even on
a breadboard
Paul
On 2016-08-15 11:35 AM, Rik Bos wrote:
https://flic.kr
I was checking bitsavers for CDC 6600 manuals. There are a lot of other
models but nothing for the 6600. There is not on the web technically about
the 6600 other than excerpts of Gordon Bell's book (which I have been
reading "Computer Structures Readings and Examples, chapter 1-2, 39 touches
on t
https://flic.kr/p/L8SNPJ
Done.
-Rik
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens Curious Marc
> Verzonden: zondag 14 augustus 2016 21:08
> Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
> Onderwerp: Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825
>
> Would you
Don't know if would possibly work n those as isn't bviosly NT,but there's a
disk for pound fifty eBay.uk open V box?!!
On Monday, August 15, 2016, jim stephens wrote:
> I downloaded the site and the zip file today (in the last 6 hours or so,
> Sunday PDT US time, I saw your don't mirror warning
Is iCl VME sound too use toward VMS from Mac?
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Richard Loken wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote:
>
> If you are importing files into VMS, you need to become familiar with the
>>> EXCHANGE command.
>>>
>>
> I was a bit puzzled by this. I thought the main
> My apologies for my previous post; I have not yet received the original
> post. Thank you, Matt, for having quoted it.
>
> It does, indeed look like an aftermarket CGA.
I assume the 'CGA' in the name in the silkscreen is relevant!
> The DE connector on there is 9 pin (see solder side), and
> From: Fred Cisin
> Could you get that translated into English, please?
Indeed. Think 'PARRY meets Dissociated Press'.
Noel
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Jay West wrote:
Yes. Done.
\o/
g.
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
You must be as crazy as listened too yers English tea cheers who Z HAS you
back in nineteenth century standing ON words where you big your LiVV,leper
key Id boss shrink biz kits,yeah?
IBM,the company 5150-Apple NY
No states.
The end
Monkey swing in tree,no n
The tape drives are from a 3000 system.
I do have an original cdc 170 series console and it would be a big deal and a
nice project to get the console and the tape drives connected to dtcyber, since
I lost almost any hope to get a real cy17x or 18x.
I'll be back home tomorrow and have a detailed
A 6085 can run Viewpoint, GlobalView and Lisp.
But beware, there are two CPU Versions: MBP 1 and MBP 2.
Bitsavers Lisp is running on one version, as I remember on MBP 1 only.
-- Andreas
> Am 15.08.2016 um 15:23 schrieb Robert Ferguson :
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Are there any hardware differences be
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 08:12:43AM -0500, Jay West wrote:
> Yes. Done.
thank you.
Hi Folks,
Are there any hardware differences between a Xerox 6085 (Daybreak configured to
run Viewpoint) and a Xerox 1186 (Daybreak configured to run Lisp), or can they
run each other’s software?
In particular, is there anything preventing a 6085 from running the stuff on
bitsavers in /bits/Xe
> I don't know about now, but SGI used to have a lot of Govt contracts
> and a lot of oil companies as customers. HP buying that also means
> they now have the ears of those customers when their solutions are old
> and they need to migrate to new equipment.
>
> I predict a lot of late model Irix e
Yes. Done.
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:55 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: R: HP to acquire SGI
On 8/14/16 10:14 PM, Steve Bez wrote:
> My English commuter wrote that
Can someone re
Major thing is ,what thought was read anyway, is the cycles followed by
what is or was a long time ago that SGI and dev with HP were beneath a
layer of pascal that IBM and the clones 'documented' before www internet
existed as a whole, Reason constantly given for these acts that you read
about but
Hey read ,it's not about persons,the me,hang boss spam off yer troll
e.read,or leave it alone.
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 8/14/16 10:14 PM, Steve Bez wrote:
>
>> My English commuter wrote that
>>
>
> Can someone remove this git off the list, please?
>
>
>
--
Sent from Gm
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 07:40:32AM -0400, Christian Liendo wrote:
> I don't know about now, but SGI used to have a lot of Govt contracts
> and a lot of oil companies as customers.
IIRC Unisys eventually turned into a government contractor.
The thing is, if you build an organization big enough to
I don't know about now, but SGI used to have a lot of Govt contracts
and a lot of oil companies as customers. HP buying that also means
they now have the ears of those customers when their solutions are old
and they need to migrate to new equipment.
I predict a lot of late model Irix equipment com
On 08/14/2016 10:15 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> why the unnecessary switches? (CGA does mode switching in software,
> and enables simultaneous composite and RGB, hence the IBM vetsion
> dorsn't need switches)
I think that the switches mostly relate to output configurations; that
is, they don't change
sad when you think of all the cards that have been scrapped over the
last 20 years for early PC
Ed#
In a message dated 8/14/2016 10:55:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ccl...@sydex.com writes:
On 08/14/2016 10:15 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> why the unnecessary switches? (CGA does mode s
That one has a lightpen connector, which his dorsn't. Not usually
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Take another look--the one in the photo has the header in the same place
as that in the cited drawing.
You're right.
I only sae the resistor pack.
That does look like the one.
why the u
This is a CGA clone. It can work with CGA and Hercules monitors/modes, and
usually were switched by a program called MONO.COM.
I Believe I have some boards like that. Possibly I have the manual and
disk.
2016-08-15 1:53 GMT-03:00 Chuck Guzis :
> On 08/14/2016 09:21 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > That
On 08/14/2016 09:21 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> That one has a lightpen connector, which his dorsn't. Not usually
> important, but it might have other differences, such as different
> functions for the switchrs.
Take another look--the one in the photo has the header in the same place
as that in the ci
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