On 8/14/16 10:14 PM, Steve Bez wrote:
My English commuter wrote that
Can someone remove this git off the list, please?
My English commuter wrote that,I know you won't believe me whatever you
do,but Latin 3 isn't a Television man?
Why ?cape Rozzetta,no GCHQ
Chess us.
Cards got trump ?
Ed
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 08/14/2016 06:19 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > Could you get that translated i
You must be as crazy as listened too yers English tea cheers who Z HAS you
back in nineteenth century standing ON words where you big your LiVV,leper
key Id boss shrink biz kits,yeah?
IBM,the company 5150-Apple NY
No states.
The end
Monkey swing in tree,no nana aka pied pipe York key hill March bac
That one has a lightpen connector, which his dorsn't.
Not usually important, but it might have other differences, such as
different functions for the switchrs.
There were some MDA boards without printer.
Plugging 5151 into CGA could damage the 5151.
Even plugging it into EGA with wrong switch
My apologies for my previous post; I have not yet received the original
post. Thank you, Matt, for having quoted it.
It does, indeed look like an aftermarket CGA.
The DE connector on there is 9 pin (see solder side), and is probably CGA
RGB. (NOT VGA!!)
The "real" OEM IBM CGA does not have
should work fine u got rca and vga on that card might not be colour but it
> should work
>
This board is not likely to be VGA. The card says "CGA-IV", so it's likely
a DE-9 RGB connector.
An FCC ID search reveals it to be a Chinese product, from Yangtech Electric
Co. Ltd.; the FCC action date
is S
Looks to be a later 8 bit CGA card, non IBM.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Win Heagy wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any info on this video card? I wasn't able to find much.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/TjIzL
>
> The card came in a 5150, but whatever monitor they were using did n
On 08/14/2016 08:04 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> What is RCA and VGA??
Didn't RCA make computers? Don't know who VGA was, though. Vertical
Gizmo Authority?
On 08/14/2016 06:22 PM, Win Heagy wrote:
> Does anyone have any info on this video card? I wasn't able to find
> much.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/TjIzL
>
> The card came in a 5150, but whatever monitor they were using did
> not come with the 5150. I'd like to see if it's possible to use this
> car
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Adrian Stoness wrote:
should work fine u got rca and vga on that card might not be colour but it
should work
??
What card is that?
The IBM 5150 was the PC.
The IBM 5151 was the IBm green screen "Monochrome" monitor. The card for
that ("Monichrome Display and Printer Ca
should work fine u got rca and vga on that card might not be colour but it
should work
"should work fine u got rca and vga on that card might not be colour but it
should work"
Nope. Looks like a CGA card. It may also run in monochrome mode if you set the
correct dip switches. The composite output can be used w a std TV set.
Does anyone have any info on this video card? I wasn't able to find much.
https://imgur.com/a/TjIzL
The card came in a 5150, but whatever monitor they were using did not
come with the 5150. I'd like to see if it's possible to use this card
with a 5151.
Thanks,
Win
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote:
If you are importing files into VMS, you need to become familiar with the
EXCHANGE command.
I was a bit puzzled by this. I thought the main use of EXCHANGE was to
to copy files to or from disk or tape volumes which are not in a native
VMS format but
On 08/14/2016 06:19 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Could you get that translated into English, please?
Sure, Fred:
"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod
tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim
veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco labor
On 15/08/2016 03:25, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 07:43:21PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Thank you all very much. I'm collating all of this most useful data.
I think I have sent you this:
http://pdp8.se/slask/front_paneler
Not complete but it has som odd color variations a
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 07:43:21PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> Thank you all very much. I'm collating all of this most useful data.
I think I have sent you this:
http://pdp8.se/slask/front_paneler
Not complete but it has som odd color variations and OEM version. It has
the chocolaty csis1170.
whats really a shame is our economic system requiring a growth rate of X
percentage no mater how much money u make like a multi billion dallor
company sees 500mill growth from the yr befor but its shy 2% of what was
expected stock tanks yet it made 500million more in proffit thats whats
wrong what
I downloaded the site and the zip file today (in the last 6 hours or so,
Sunday PDT US time, I saw your don't mirror warning after i'd taken a
lot, so continued.
many thanks for the stuff there. I had some things from the profolder,
but not the floppy images.
thanks
jim
On 8/14/2016 3:17
Could you get that translated into English, please?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years wh
No manufacturer in the proms, just "C-8080 KEYBOARD/DISPLAY TERMINAL" in the
setup code.
The modem appears to be Bell 202 1200 half-duplex.
On 8/14/16 2:31 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
> I think it may be a Courier. I bought the pcb, which has "C8080" on the sn
> label
>
On 8/14/2016 6:35 PM, geneb wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine
tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing
certain
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing certain
machine yells like that causing thi
Jules:
If you don't mind doing a little hardware / software:
I've been using a module from FTDI that 'talks' TTL level RS232 at
baud rate up to / past? 115Kbaud, and 'talks to' USB thumb drives.
Go to digikey / etc, and look at the 'VDRIVE3' from FTDI.
It does all the grunt work in handling
Well the frogs never were usable as a async ASCII terminal..
for some reason I think they were intended for IBM... The white later
ones with detachable large keyboards definitely were for IBM and were
used with a cluster terminal controller if memory is correct...
if they
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 05:35:21PM -0400, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> we used to call green frogs and would scrap as fast as we ended up
> with them... now as a memento sort of wish we had saved one of the
> old evil things...
Heh, that sounds like the description of the Hazeltine terminals we
wer
> > I noticed you have a Pro folder as well, any chance you could zip that
too?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> I zipped all so you have it .
>
Ah, I hadn't actually opened it to look inside and thought it was just the
Rainbow folder. Thank you very much!
Regards
Rob
Yes Al, That is a green Frog! Cool! gladat least one still
exists... I am in hopes there is still in one of existing in one the aux
buildings here... I should display some Courier stuff.
the later model was all while and had a detachable keyboard.
We had a surplus
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing certain
machine yells like that causing this reaction up too the point of watch it
l
On 08/14/2016 10:59 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to do a raw
image
dump out the serial port.
That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have.
I would think someone would have already written this in the MS-DOS world.
In
On 8/14/16 2:35 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> I am looking for the old green terminals we used to call green frogs
we got one a couple years ago
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102716411
Hi Al - if they are itt courier was after my days of buying scrap
there.
I am looking for the old green terminals we used to call green frogs and
would scap as fast as we ended up with them... now as a memento some of
wish we had saved one of the old evil things...
also loo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172299367709 (kb)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172290512799 (pcb)
I think it may be a Courier. I bought the pcb, which has "C8080" on the sn label
so I'm guessing it's Courier. Quite unusual with build-in modem. Will be dumping
the eproms soon, hopefully some text strings in the
On 8/14/16 12:04 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
> No need for wikis or CMSes or any of that junk.
>
Such things are useful, Richard's RSS feed of bitsavers, for example
but they can be added later.
I am a VERY strong believer in keeping the content flat and not dynamically
served, so that it can be rs
VCF West last weekend saw more than 1,000 attendees. Huge thank-you to
everyone!!!
We are processing the videos and will post links here when they're ready.
Meanwhile there are some excellent pictures / articles / etc. already
online. A few are here:
- TechRepublic (by me):
[url]http://www.
On 08/14/2016 13:08, Ian S. King wrote:
>
> Grab all the SGI docs/bits you can, before HP sends them to /dev/null and
> 404
SGI "retired" their excellent TechPubs system not very long ago when
they outsourced customer support, thereby removing all the docs and
patches that still covered many
Paul,
It is a small extra pcb( with hp logo). Both my machines are build in Germany,
which is logic because I’m living in the Netherlands and aquired both in Europe.
So it could be a local modification made by the Boeblingen factory or even HP
Netherlands.
I’m happy with it😉
-Rik
Van: Paul Ber
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote:
>
> ...
> Is there a linux program that will do the serial terminal emulation/logging ?
> I have a laptop
> that I am using as the console I am thinking of changing it over to Debian
> Linux. I was
> using an old Dell Mini but the keys we
Would you pictures of it and where it sits in the machine by any chance?
Marc
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Rik Bos wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> It is a small extra pcb( with hp logo). Both my machines are build in
> Germany, which is logic because I’m living in the Netherlands an
On 14/08/2016 21:25, Paul Anderson wrote:
Does this mean you don't want to know about the 8 and 11 blue and red
industrial control panels?
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 14/08/2016 12:48, Michael Thompson wrote:
Date: Sat, 13 Aug
Am 14.08.2016 um 21:07 schrieb Rob Jarratt:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
fritz_chwo...@web.de
Sent: 14 August 2016 19:14
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow
Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt:
Does this mean you don't want to know about the 8 and 11 blue and red
industrial control panels?
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 14/08/2016 12:48, Michael Thompson wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400
>>> From: Christian
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:09 PM, ben wrote:
> On 8/12/2016 9:15 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
>>
>>> It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed palm. Now they
>>> want to destroy also what's left of SGI ?
>>> Better I don't say what I'm really
> From: Jay West
> I had already offered to host the panels... I just didn't want to
> create full blow web content
I'd be happy to create some Web V0.1 content for it - similar to my other
simple Web pages, e.g.:
http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html
Let me k
I had already offered to host the panels... I just didn't want to create full
blow web content as that's not my bag.
But if you want just directory listing format - I can do that easily.
J
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod Smallwood
Thanks that's interesting
Rod
On 14/08/2016 20:04, Ian Finder wrote:
My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid.
Set up an HTTP server or a web host that does directory listings, and and
dump all the stuff into a sensible folder structure a-la Bitsavers.
When you get more stuff jus
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> fritz_chwo...@web.de
> Sent: 14 August 2016 19:14
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow
>
> Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt:
> > Thanks for that link with
My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid.
Set up an HTTP server or a web host that does directory listings, and and
dump all the stuff into a sensible folder structure a-la Bitsavers.
When you get more stuff just file it accordingly.
No need for wikis or CMSes or any of that junk.
Hi Guys
I'd like to catalog my growing list of panels etc. and
the data I have on them.
Some of course I may never make and others I will.
A number of you are connected to museums and would have come
across this issue.
Perhaps you could advise.
Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt:
Thanks for that link with the files, that looks really useful. Is there a
zip of the whole lot anywhere or an FTP site, to make it easier to download?
Regards
Rob
Hope it works...
http://oldcomputers.dyndns.org/public/pub/mirror/os2site/
Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt:
Thanks for that link with the files, that looks really useful. Is there a
zip of the whole lot anywhere or an FTP site, to make it easier to download?
Regards
Rob
From: fritz_chwo...@web.de [mailto:fritz_chwo...@t-online.de]
Sent: 14 A
I've read Rainbow disks with both Linux and FreeBSD's floppy drivers. However,
the track layout is 'weird' and I never hacked together anything to cope so that
mount and friends would be able to read the disks.
There was a raindrive.sys, iirc, that did this well enough for DOS to access the
files,
On 08/14/2016 08:59 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to
> do a raw image dump out the serial port.
>
> That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have.
>
> I would think someone would have already written this in the MS-DOS
>
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Rob Jarratt
wrote:
>
>
>> > Oh dear. VMS would not let me MOUNT/FOREIGN, it said:
>> >
>> > %MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
>> >
>> > So I couldn't mount it to do the BACKUP/PHYSICAL.
>> >
>> > What options do I have to image this disk?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I
Thanks for that link with the files, that looks really useful. Is there a
zip of the whole lot anywhere or an FTP site, to make it easier to download?
Regards
Rob
From: fritz_chwo...@web.de [mailto:fritz_chwo...@t-online.de]
Sent: 14 August 2016 17:27
To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Di
> > Oh dear. VMS would not let me MOUNT/FOREIGN, it said:
> >
> > %MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
> >
> > So I couldn't mount it to do the BACKUP/PHYSICAL.
> >
> > What options do I have to image this disk?
> >
> >
>
> It appears that the format used by the Rainbow disk controller is n
Am 14.08.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Rob Jarratt:
I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk
before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and
appears to have 4 partitions on it.
Regards
Rob
I can't help but you make me remembering some files
On 8/13/2016 3:14 PM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Oh and if you are doing serial transfers, yes, keeping the baud rate
low is a good strategy.
I had to spend some time working on the DECnet-DOS DDCMP driver
developing better character overrun recovery strategies. Yes, you may
be coming in via a termin
On 14/08/2016 12:48, Michael Thompson wrote:
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400
From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels -
PDP-11
There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too.
E.g. there's a brown-and-
>
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400
> From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
> Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels -
> PDP-11
>
> There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too.
> E.g. there's a brown-and-white '70 panel used in OEM typeset
Thanks!
Marc
> On Aug 13, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Rik Bos wrote:
>
> Marc,
>
> Building a crowbar is easy, just take a Zener a little higher than the psu
> voltage eg 5.2V for 5V rail put a resistor of 1k in series take a Thyristor
> big enough to take about 150% of the schort current and connect it
If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to do a raw
image
dump out the serial port.
That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have.
I would think someone would have already written this in the MS-DOS world.
On 8/14/16 8:54 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> O
On 8/14/16 3:55 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
> I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk
> before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and
> appears to have 4 partitions on it.
>
MAME supports it. It was a bear to get working correctly.
I ran into (possibly whenthis trying to send some files to the LCM TOPS-10).
Found this:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckcbwr.html
C-Kermit 7.0 is the first release of C-Kermit to use fast (rather than
robust and therefore slow) protocol defaults: long packets, sliding windows,
control-ch
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 14 August 2016 13:42
> To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow
>
> Looking at
>
> http://www.vaxarchive.org/hardware/mfm/index.
I think I've registered with you before, but I'm interested in a PDP-11/70
panel and if you do them, a bezel for it.
John H. Reinhardt
On 8/12/2016 4:49 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi Guys
Well my panels made to VCF. I have had some feedback and I
expect more.
Currently I have
>
> >
> > Linux, using dd?
> >
>
> This did cross my mind. I suppose I am not sure how to get Linux onto the
> machine. With VMS I know I can netboot, I don't have enough Unix knowledge
> to netboot a MicroVAX II. I will try to research how to do it, but if anyone
> has any nice pointers that wo
>
> >
> > For imaging my first thought is to put the disk into a MicroVAX II, net
> > boot the
> > MicroVAX into VMS and do a BACKUP/PHYSICAL, copying the image to a
> > SIMH tap file. There shouldn't be any issues with this I assume?
> >
>
> Oh dear. VMS would not let me MOUNT/FOREIGN, it said
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre
> Souza
> Sent: 14 August 2016 13:40
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> ; r...@jarratt.me.uk
> Subject: RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow
>
> Linux, using dd?
>
This
Looking at
http://www.vaxarchive.org/hardware/mfm/index.html
the RD51 is a 10Mb Seagate ST412 disk with a DEC label on it. I think you
should therefore be able to image it with one of these:-
http://www.vaxarchive.org/hardware/mfm/index.html
Now I have two bare boards for these obtained at gre
Linux, using dd?
Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
Em 14/08/2016 09:22, "Rob Jarratt" escreveu:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob
> Jarratt
> > Sent: 14 August 2016 11:55
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob
Jarratt
> Sent: 14 August 2016 11:55
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow
>
> I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want t
>
> I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk
> before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and
> appears to have 4 partitions on it.
>
> For imaging my first thought is to put the disk into a MicroVAX II, net boot
> the MicroVAX into VMS and do
I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk
before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and
appears to have 4 partitions on it.
For imaging my first thought is to put the disk into a MicroVAX II, net boot
the MicroVAX into VMS and do a BACKUP/P
Amazing! Thanks, Rod. You're really on top of this.
On Sunday, August 14, 2016, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
>
>
> On 14/08/2016 06:57, Ian Finder wrote:
>
>> Registering interest for 11/40! Also, one comment after playing with my
>> panels...
>>
>> We should laquer the back of them to prevent the black
On 14/08/2016 06:57, Ian Finder wrote:
Registering interest for 11/40! Also, one comment after playing with my
panels...
We should laquer the back of them to prevent the black back-coating from
scratching off...
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> w
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