Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Sean Caron
Try pulling the accelerator board out of the PDS slot ... I've seen a lot of accelerator boards go bad over time but when removed, the underlying Mac is actually okay ... You should just be able to yank the board; it's all plug-n-play for the most part. There should be Macintosh ROMs on the mother

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Jules Richardson
On 10/27/2015 09:18 PM, Al Kossow wrote: here is a mirror of the tech note that describes the pinouts and sense codes https://web.archive.org/web/20040222182709/http://developer.apple.com/technotes/hw/hw_30.html The RBV ASIC in the SI only knows about the original 8 sense codes. I just got i

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/27/15 7:10 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: On 10/27/2015 08:36 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 10/26/15 8:30 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I've got a system here which makes encouraging startup noises, but isn't outputting any video to a VGA screen (adapter cable OK with my other Macs). The si an

VCF-Berlin, 2015

2015-10-27 Thread Jack Rubin
Here are some of my photos from VCF-Berlin - http://tinyurl.com/vcfb-2015 . More narrative is at the Vintage Computer Forum - http://tinyurl.com/vcfb-vcfd . Enjoy - I certainly did! Jack

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Jules Richardson
On 10/27/2015 08:36 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 10/26/15 8:30 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I've got a system here which makes encouraging startup noises, but isn't outputting any video to a VGA screen (adapter cable OK with my other Macs). The si and cx/ci are old enough that it doesn't support

HP Vectra stuff

2015-10-27 Thread Jon Auringer
All, Also while cleaning I found a box of HP Vectra docs & a couple disks. Docs: Getting Started With the HP BASIC Controller HP 24540B & HP 24541B - Installation Guide 35743 HP Enhanced Graphics Display Installation Guide HP Enhanced Graphics Adapter User's Manual Disks: VECTRA PC UTILITIES A

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/26/15 8:30 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I've got a system here which makes encouraging startup noises, but isn't outputting any video to a VGA screen (adapter cable OK with my other Macs). The si and cx/ci are old enough that it doesn't support VGA timing.

SCO Integra

2015-10-27 Thread Jon Auringer
Hi All, I ran across the following while cleaning: A set of "draft" manuals for SCO Integra database software. It looks to be a complete manual set in 4 hardbound volumes. Also in the pile are 4 sequentially labeled 5 1/4" floppy disks that have "Dewitt" written on them. I don't have the resour

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Jules Richardson
On 10/27/2015 07:27 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 10/27/15 4:42 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I don't know if it's just some lowly service processor nope, just the 68030. Thanks, Al. I'm reasonably confident that it's alive and well, then, but with no video output. Who knows, maybe someone plugg

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/27/15 4:42 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: I don't know if it's just some lowly service processor nope, just the 68030.

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Tuesday (10/27/2015 at 03:30PM -0400), Peter Cetinski wrote: > > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA > > wrote: > >>>Of course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ‘Fra-gee-lee') > >>> is > >>> Italian for “majo

Re: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread Jules Richardson
On 10/27/2015 12:54 AM, Sean Caron wrote: AFAIK there's nothing special about the video on the IIsi ... pretty sure that if the adapter and monitor will work with i.e. a standard Mac II 640x480x8 NuBus board (or equivalent) it should work with the IIsi. Hmm, looks like this one has issues, then

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/27/2015 05:23 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: I'm curious: Does the static from the peanuts noticeably affect electronics? Have you ever had them cling to your arms or whatever? Yes, definitely. That's why they have green and pink peanuts, those are supposed to be anti-static. Jon

Re: Order now ! PDP8 front panels

2015-10-27 Thread rod
Hi Price will depend on the total quantity of each type. A guess would be $120 for the 8/e and $130 for the /f or /m Shipping included. Rod On 27/10/15 22:43, Adrian Stoness wrote: curious about the price in general im working on a 8i thing but thats totaly different On Tue, Oct 27, 2015

Re: Order now ! PDP8 front panels

2015-10-27 Thread Adrian Stoness
curious about the price in general im working on a 8i thing but thats totaly different On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:12 PM, rod wrote: > An 8em ? Is that an PDP8/e or PDP8/m or both? > > > > On 27/10/15 20:08, Adrian Stoness wrote: > >> For a 8 e m >> On Oct 27, 2015 1:21 AM, "rod" wrote: >> >> H A

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Oct 27, 2015 3:59 PM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: > > > From: Guy Sotomayor > > > Peanuts do *nothing* .. The heavy item will "settle" and have nothing > > surrounding it. The peanuts act a fluid during shipping. > > I can attest to this. I bought a largish disk drive, and it was shipped

Re: Order now ! PDP8 front panels

2015-10-27 Thread rod
An 8em ? Is that an PDP8/e or PDP8/m or both? On 27/10/15 20:08, Adrian Stoness wrote: For a 8 e m On Oct 27, 2015 1:21 AM, "rod" wrote: H Adrian For the 11/70 ? Rod On 27/10/15 01:48, Adrian Stoness wrote: how much? On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jörg Hoppe wrote: Rob, Here is a

Re: Trying to get my RLV11 working

2015-10-27 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Ben Sinclair > I'm trying to get my RLV11 working Oh, I was going to mention this about the RLV11 - it's a Q18 device. So it _probably_ won't work in a system with more than 256KB of memory (which you don't, at this point, have, though). It would all depend on the OS, whether it u

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Guy Sotomayor > Peanuts do *nothing* .. The heavy item will "settle" and have nothing > surrounding it. The peanuts act a fluid during shipping. I can attest to this. I bought a largish disk drive, and it was shipped in peanuts. It came out the box at 45 degrees to the sides -

Distilled water (was re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads)

2015-10-27 Thread Craig Ruff
Just to be pedantic, as this is the Internet after all :-), distilled water is a pretty good insulator, but not a "perfect" one. Neutral (pH 7.0) water always has a very small amount of the molecules disassociated into H+ and OH- ions. However, as others have stated, the effective value of the wa

Trying to get my RLV11 working

2015-10-27 Thread Ben Sinclair
I'm trying to get my RLV11 working to eventually run my RL02, and am having some trouble. I have a PDP-11/23 in an H9273 backplane. I just got it working reliably without the RLV11 boards installed, so now I'm giving them a try again. Here's my configuration: Down the left side: M8186, M8044, M8

Re: Order now ! PDP8 front panels

2015-10-27 Thread Adrian Stoness
For a 8 e m On Oct 27, 2015 1:21 AM, "rod" wrote: > H Adrian > > For the 11/70 ? > > Rod > > > On 27/10/15 01:48, Adrian Stoness wrote: > >> how much? >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jörg Hoppe wrote: >> >> Rob, >>> >>> Here is a high quality PDP-11/70 foto: >>> ftp://jhoppe.ddns.net/blin

videotex projects / was Re: Oddball question: really small terminals

2015-10-27 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Oct-25, at 8:29 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 10/24/2015 08:54 PM, Mike Ross wrote: >> For reasons too abstruse to explain in detail I'm on the lookout for >> terminals that are, physically, really small - especially serial and >> coax 3270, and possibly twinax 5250. >> >> > I had a thing tha

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Jarratt RMA
> > On 27 October 2015 at 19:30 Peter Cetinski wrote: > > > > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA > > wrote: > >>> Of course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ‘Fra-gee-lee') > >>> is >

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA > wrote: >>>Of course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ‘Fra-gee-lee') is >>> Italian for “major award”. :) >> >> I suspect I am missing a joke here, but "fragile" in Italian has

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA wrote: >> Of course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ‘Fra-gee-lee') is >> Italian for “major award”. :) > > I suspect I am missing a joke here, but "fragile" in Italian has exactly the > same meaning as "fragile" in English. "Major awar

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Jarratt RMA
> > On 27 October 2015 at 18:06 Peter Cetinski wrote: > > > > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:59 PM, tony duell > wrote: > > > >> experience. An 'UP ARROW' means nothing, nor does 'FRAGILE' > > > > I thought 'Fragile' meant 'Use this package for playing American > > Foot

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread rod
OK Here's my two cents worth. First put tape across the area. Make sure it wont take the silk screen printing off. Get a small drill. A 1mm PCB drill is a good choice. Drill through with the drill set to a fast but not too fast speed. Turn the work over and re-clamp it. open up the hole but don

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/27/2015 10:58 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: Another alternative that I’ve used prior to expanding foam packages is to use foam padding. Again you want to fill up *all* the space so that the item can’t move. I like to use extruded polystyrene insulation panels. Here it's available from most

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:59 PM, tony duell wrote: > >> experience. An 'UP ARROW' means nothing, nor does 'FRAGILE' > > I thought 'Fragile' meant 'Use this package for playing American Football' > > This it not a new problem, it probably pre-dates the ASR33. Flanders and Swann > (think of them

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/27/2015 10:52 AM, Jon Elson wrote: You CAN use an end mill in a drill press if you are careful. You get no self-centering, so the work must be **SECURELY** clamped, as the cutter may try to walk. But, you'll get perfectly round, smooth holes. Twist drills tend to wander and make triangul

RE: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread tony duell
> experience. An 'UP ARROW' means nothing, nor does 'FRAGILE' I thought 'Fragile' meant 'Use this package for playing American Football' This it not a new problem, it probably pre-dates the ASR33. Flanders and Swann (think of them as being the British equivalent of Tom Lehrer) said The new way

Re: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Randy Dawson wrote: > > > > If anybody ships a TTY, I recommend this: Make the box a, 3x, 4x TTY sized > double wall cardboard box, filled with peanuts, and the TTY nestled in the > core of the surrounding peanut cushion. They are going to shake and drop i

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/27/2015 11:59 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 10/27/2015 09:33 AM, Jon Elson wrote: The ultimate way to drill holes in Plexi is with an end mill. It can make a slight chipping when it punches through the back, so you either need a backstop material or lighten up the feed a bit just before i

FW: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33

2015-10-27 Thread Randy Dawson
(pictures removed) From: rdawso...@hotmail.com To: greenk...@mailman.qth.net Subject: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 23:14:45 -0700 Wayne (ttyparts.com) and I had a disaster of a shipment on a ASR33, Fed Ex Ground did us no favors. In spite of a handcrafted woode

Re: Order now ! PDP8 front panels

2015-10-27 Thread jwsmobile
On 10/26/2015 7:58 PM, rod wrote: H Adrian For the 11/70 ? Rod, I'd be interested in the PDP 8/M and the PDP 8/E panels. thanks Jim Rod On 27/10/15 01:48, Adrian Stoness wrote: how much? On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jörg Hoppe wrote: Rob, Here is a high quality PDP-11/70 foto:

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 10/26/2015 11:38 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> On 10/26/2015 08:54 PM, wulfman wrote: >>> To effectively drill in plastics you need to run the drill press on >>> the highest speed you can and use a freshly sharpened drill bit. >> >> If this is

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/27/2015 09:33 AM, Jon Elson wrote: The ultimate way to drill holes in Plexi is with an end mill. It can make a slight chipping when it punches through the back, so you either need a backstop material or lighten up the feed a bit just before it goes through. (This of course requires a ce

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/26/2015 11:38 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 10/26/2015 08:54 PM, wulfman wrote: To effectively drill in plastics you need to run the drill press on the highest speed you can and use a freshly sharpened drill bit. If this is Perspex/Plexiglas, I've had great results with a good sharp Forstn

Re: PET mono screens

2015-10-27 Thread Adrian Graham
On 27 October 2015 at 13:33, tony duell wrote: > By 'CRT' I assume you mean the evacuated glass thing. The term is alas also > misused to mean 'monitor' > Indeed, the glass thing. > Before you go to all that trouble, why do you think it has failed? In all > my time of working > on classic comp

Re: Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

2015-10-27 Thread Paul Berger
On 2015-10-27 10:53 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Paul Berger wrote: >On 2015-10-26 11:38 AM, Jules Richardson wrote: >On 10/24/2015 09:14 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Are we really running short of "720K" floppies? I went around all the local places that I could think of a couple of years ago and

RE: PET mono screens

2015-10-27 Thread tony duell
> > ROM problems aside does anyone know of a way I can test the actual CRT? By 'CRT' I assume you mean the evacuated glass thing. The term is alas also misused to mean 'monitor' [...] > Back when I was fixing my broken TRS80s I could use the CRT from a B&W TV, > is there anything oddball about

PET mono screens

2015-10-27 Thread Adrian Graham
Hi folks, ROM problems aside does anyone know of a way I can test the actual CRT? Last night I borrowed the screen from another PET just to see if I get a garbage pattern from the board I'm repairing, but this one stays similarly dark so I need to sanity check both of them. Back when I was fixing

RE: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread tony duell
> > And my advice, sadly learnt and forgotten quite a few times, always after > > drilling a critical part: > > > > CLAMP THE JOB DOWN! > +1 on Steven's advice, having learned this lesson the hard-way. I'll second (third? nth?) that! I was once told that the majority

Re: Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

2015-10-27 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>Paul Berger wrote: >On 2015-10-26 11:38 AM, Jules Richardson wrote: >On 10/24/2015 09:14 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Are we really running short of "720K" floppies? I went around all the local places that I could think of a couple of years ago and bought up whatever stock of floppies that I co

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread William Donzelli
There are special bits for plastics, and they work quite well. Regular bits are troublesome on most plastics. -- Will On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 10/26/2015 08:54 PM, wulfman wrote: >> >> To effectively drill in plastics you need to run the drill press on >> the hig

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread Nigel Williams
> On 27 Oct 2015, at 5:59 PM, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > And my advice, sadly learnt and forgotten quite a few times, always after > drilling a critical part: > > CLAMP THE JOB DOWN! +1 on Steven's advice, having learned this lesson the hard-way.

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread rod
Hi Yes clamp it down. I have a pillar drill and that has a table that the workpiece can be clamped to. This means they are at right angles to each other. So the drill bit works as designed. Sharpen or replace drill bits if they get worn. Next start small and work up in drill size. There are

Caps. Was: Mac IIsi - SoG?

2015-10-27 Thread simon
did you replace the caps on the motherboard. those machines are in the suspect zone, like the IIci, IIcx and the like. On most of them the aluminium caps have gone bad and are leaking on the board, inflicting all kinds of damage. simon On 27-10-15 06:54, Sean Caron wrote: AFAIK there's nothi

Scan of tape pile for Sun system

2015-10-27 Thread jwsmobile
I recently got hands on what is supposed to be a Sun 4/260. INcluded are about 150 QIC tapes or so. I've gotten the fifty or so with labels scanned (labels on the tapes) so far and will make up a list soon. A lot of them have broken rubber bands, but the few that I could move by hand moved

Re: PDP 8 panels. Feedback

2015-10-27 Thread steven
> On 10/26/2015 08:54 PM, wulfman wrote: >> To effectively drill in plastics you need to run the drill press on >> the highest speed you can and use a freshly sharpened drill bit. > > If this is Perspex/Plexiglas, I've had great results with a good sharp > Forstner bit in my drill press at medium