Yep, that was the place - I can't remember their name, I think they were the
Autocad rep, and carried a few complementary lines like plotters.
The R1 was laying down on some stands, like a coffee table, plexi cover so you
could set your drinks on it and see all the intricate wiring, tubes and
c
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 09:38:00PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> Supposedly one in Australia is at least close to operational.
The references to it are on one of the members.iinet.net.au sites.
Currently only reachable through the Wayback Machine (see one of
my other posts):
https://web.archive.org/w
Per your request, I tried the URL:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
I did the search you requested, and tried the following URLs:
http://members.iinet.com.au/~stepho/mick.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~pontipak/redsquare.html
http://members.iinet.net.au/~p
On 09/11/2015 11:31 AM, Cory Heisterkamp wrote:
Are there any operational G-15's out there? Seems like this would be a good
model to restore/demonstrate that doesn't come with all the usual baggage
of a first gen machine (exotic power, A/C requirements, thousands of tubes,
etc). -C
Supposedly
On 09/11/2015 10:27 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
FWIW: when I run into a web site issue due to filtering (or suspicion of same),
I got to TOR. Apart from the confidentiality benefits it offers, you also get
access from a completely different part of the world. An unpredictable place,
admittedly.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:24:47AM -0700, Randy Dawson wrote:
> There was a 'slice' of the R1 floating about with some friends of mine
> in Houston.
Were they the owners of a small office building off of Post Oak in Houston
in the 1970s-1980s?
That's the only one I know about that survived.
mcl
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 09:27:47AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> A volunteer at CHM (Paul McJones) is scanning R1 documentation currently.
Yes, I've already been talking to Paul.
mcl
I was going through my board collection and found three PDP-11 boards I've
never used in years and don't see a foreseeable need.
No idea of condition, but they're visually clean and neat, stored in
antistatic bags.
The serial cards came out of (my) working 11/23+ but I've not tested them
(since
His prices are pretty off the wall in general but he's got some neat
ephemera if you browse through his other items. Lots of Univac boards,
miscellaneous parts, old documentation, bits and pieces of several old
computer lines...
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
On 9/11/2015 12:03 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
From: Dave G4UGM
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:06 PM
From: Liam Proven
Sent: 10 September 2015 16:17
On 10 September 2015 at 15:42, Fred Cisin wrote:
He also said that the colored pencils that I manually did graphs with
were "COLOUR PENC
I have a CDC "160 Computer Programming Manual" that I obtained many years
ago when I was working with CDC equipment. This manual caught my eye and I
squirreled it away since we were using the 160-A computers not the 160s.
This manual has a publication number of 023a and a date of 1960. The
pictur
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:59 PM, W2HX wrote:
>
> I think someone on one of the lists was inquring about this. Some items that
> might be of interest
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Bendix-G-15-Mainframe-Computer-Circuit-Board-Tester-/262042248871?hash=item3d02ef66a7
> http://www.ebay.com/i
Gerard wrote
HOW OFTEN theses old PROM fail ??
Who had been through this problem and does it "really" worth to have some
blanks "just in case" ??
1) Once is enough, if it is the only known copy of that particular rom. But
in general they are very reliable. More often than not - wh
I think someone on one of the lists was inquring about this. Some items that
might be of interest
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Bendix-G-15-Mainframe-Computer-Circuit-Board-Tester-/262042248871?hash=item3d02ef66a7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Bendix-G-15-Mainframe-Computer-DA-1-Inte
Me too, especially as a working sys admin ... the business model is not
really original ... just the old time "service bureau" or "timesharing
company" but we have to have a hip new marketing catchname for it, LOL...
Well, if I've learned one thing, the computer industry is kind of like the
fashion
That triggers again a question I had for a while ...
HOW OFTEN theses old PROM fail ??
Who had been through this problem and does it "really" worth to have some blanks
"just in case" ??
---
L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel
antivirus Avast.
https:/
> I hope it all works out OK and let us know how it goes!
>
> Todd
Well a quick update to this story. For a while it did not look like this was
going to happen because the seller just did not want to pack. As a result we
were getting quotes of $700-$800 proportions. The lowest was $595 if the
sel
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 09/11/2015 12:03 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
However, it was far earlier than the Victorians. Noah Webster
(1758-1843) only overlaps the Victorian era by 6 years; he was
reacting against the aristocratic spelling norms of the 17th and 18th
centuries, wh
On 09/11/2015 12:03 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
However, it was far earlier than the Victorians. Noah Webster
(1758-1843) only overlaps the Victorian era by 6 years; he was
reacting against the aristocratic spelling norms of the 17th and 18th
centuries, when Latin and Greek were held to be more im
From: Dave G4UGM
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:06 PM
>> From: Liam Proven
>> Sent: 10 September 2015 16:17
>> On 10 September 2015 at 15:42, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>> He also said that the colored pencils that I manually did graphs with
>>> were "COLOUR PENCILS".
>> Sounds legit to me. But
On 9/11/2015 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the
limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good thing about the PDP-11 was the 16-bit word size. (It resulte
There was a 'slice' of the R1 floating about with some friends of mine in
Houston. It was about the size and shape of the 2001 monolith. From what I
was told, it represented one register, probably a byte, and constructed of
about 100 vacuum tubes. It served as a conversation piece and a coffe
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
Five years ago the paper stock was still available in the US, and you
could get cards from Cardamation as well.
A lot of bad things have happened in the last five years.
On 9/11/2015 11:58 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Jon Elson
>
> > so MANY others who could not access the members.iinet page were finding
> > they got stopped at cogentco.
>^^^
>
> Well, to be precise 'Cogentco was the last node on the route which
On 9/11/2015 10:52 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>
>>
>> I cannot make a connection. My DNS is able to resolve the address.
>>
>
> I saw the same sort of thing but I let traceroute keep running. The result
> is that it started giving real answers
> From: Johnny Billquist
> it really is a few bits short of perfect ...
> .. when you look at the EIS and FPP extensions, which could not
> retain the general instruction layout format because of a lack of bits.
Well, if they'd tried to keep the same general layout, I don't think
who could be lucky enough to own 2 link 8s?
Ed@
In a message dated 9/11/2015 10:22:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
wdonze...@gmail.com writes:
Yeah, about those...
Warning! Warning!
--
Will
On Sep 11, 2015 11:06 AM, "Paul Koning" wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Noel Chia
Yeah, about those...
Warning! Warning!
--
Will
On Sep 11, 2015 11:06 AM, "Paul Koning" wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Noel Chiappa
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Ed Sharpe
> >
> >> well SMECC needs one hopefully to make work so we can show the youn'ins
> >> how cards were punched!
> >
> >
2015-09-11 17:06 GMT+02:00 Paul Koning :
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Noel Chiappa
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Ed Sharpe
> >
> >> well SMECC needs one hopefully to make work so we can show the youn'ins
> >> how cards were punched!
> >
> > Well, here's an 029 (not quite what the OP was looking
> From: Jon Elson
> so MANY others who could not access the members.iinet page were finding
> they got stopped at cogentco.
^^^
Well, to be precise 'Cogentco was the last node on the route which
responded'.
It's impossible to say whether i) that node to
Works fine, save for the individual web-ring pages not being able to
populate the buttons correctly. Going directly to a members... page does
work from this proxy.
-Gary
On 09/11/2015 09:40 AM, Gary Oliver wrote:
I fired up a proxy on amazon ec2 virginia this morning and it works
fine from th
Jerome H. Fine wrote:
> >Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
> >..have repaired a HH725 Harddisk /TA7245BP was bad since a tantal Elko had
> >a short) and booted now RT11 V5.07 with the new now repaired 1/73 CPU.
> >
> >Resorc /A give the following informations:
> >
> >.resorc /a
> >
> >RT-11XB (S) V05.07
> >
> "There is no such thing as 'the cloud', it's just someone else's
> computer."
>
> Love that quote... so true... and I sell cloud services ;)
Jay,
I am going to have to use that quote with my friends who like having their life
on the cloud...
-Ali
Are there any operational G-15's out there? Seems like this would be a good
model to restore/demonstrate that doesn't come with all the usual baggage of a
first gen machine (exotic power, A/C requirements, thousands of tubes,
etc). -C
MARCH's is untested. We plan to restore it one day.
I fired up a proxy on amazon ec2 virginia this morning and it works fine
from there. Strange geographic filtering...
-Gary
On 09/10/2015 09:11 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
The amazon instance is in the US West region (north-central Oregon I
presume.)
Tomorrow I'll fire up a proxy on the east coast
Are there any operational G-15's out there? Seems like this would be a good
model to restore/demonstrate that doesn't come with all the usual baggage
of a first gen machine (exotic power, A/C requirements, thousands of tubes,
etc). -C
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 9/11/
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Koning"
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2015 4:58:41 PM
> I agree. You can use overlays on any hardware platform that has random
> access secondary storage.
> You need it if your programs are
On 9/11/15 8:28 AM, Mark Linimon wrote:
I do have some R1 documentation which I intend to scan and then send
to either CHM or Rice University Fondren Library.
A volunteer at CHM (Paul McJones) is scanning R1 documentation currently.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>
>> On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
>>> check if they can view this page:
>>> http://members.i
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> ...
> Overlays were a way to try getting around the address space limitations. I
> still would not consider overlays as any part of the PDP-11 architecture. But
> maybe that is just me.
I agree. You can use overlays on any hardware
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>
> On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
>>
>> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
>> check if they can view this page:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>>
>>
>
> I cannot make
On 2015-09-11 17:33, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:49, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist
wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually
On 2015-09-11 17:28, Paul Koning wrote:
On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
...
For efficient overlays, RT-11 with Link tends to be better. It's less
flexible but that reduced flexibility enforces more care in overlay design
On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
> check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
>
I cannot make a connection. My DNS is able to resolve the address.
ISP is Charte
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-11 16:49, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 a
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> ...
>> For efficient overlays, RT-11 with Link tends to be better. It's less
>> flexible but that reduced flexibility enforces more care in overlay design,
>> and the implementation
So I have finally been prodded by some people to put together a web
page for the G-15 computer. As well, I am going to put up information
about the Rice Research Computer (later known as the R1), and its
intended succesor, the R2.
Right now my web pages are pretty skeletal and mostly consist of
s
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
>> Jon Elson wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, all,
>>>
>>> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
>>> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
>>> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
>>> as his ISP. All
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > I loved the PDP-11 architecture, until I wanted to run programs on it
> that
> > relied on the overlay manager and the overlays got to be 8 or 9 deep.
> Then
> > it was... p
THANKS to all of you great guys who have helped obtain data
on this problem!
Here are some results:
For 26 users in the US and Canada, I get 11 that worked OK,
and 14 that did not work. Of the 14 that did not work,
6 (including me) got stopped at cogentco.
It seems that users in other countr
On 2015-09-11 16:49, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the
limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good th
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 08:32:11PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to check
> if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
The other day I was trying to access David Green's pages there.
I event
On 09/11/2015 09:42 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Don North
> Basically see no problems accessing any of the pages on sites.
> ...
> 12: be2019.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com 22.400ms asymm 8
> 13: no reply
> 14: no reply
> 15: ae0.cr1.mel4.on.ii.net 217
On 9/11/2015 7:46 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
Jon Elson wrote:
Hello, all,
I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
as his ISP.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
>> From: Ed Sharpe
>
>> well SMECC needs one hopefully to make work so we can show the youn'ins
>> how cards were punched!
>
> Well, here's an 029 (not quite what the OP was looking for, but good enough
> for you all, I expect) for a not in
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> ...
> I loved the PDP-11 architecture, until I wanted to run programs on it that
> relied on the overlay manager and the overlays got to be 8 or 9 deep. Then
> it was... painful.
Perhaps the program was too large. But it may just be that t
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
> Jon Elson wrote:
>
>> Hello, all,
>>
>> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
>> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
>> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia,
> From: Ed Sharpe
> well SMECC needs one hopefully to make work so we can show the youn'ins
> how cards were punched!
Well, here's an 029 (not quite what the OP was looking for, but good enough
for you all, I expect) for a not insane amount of money:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2817967
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
>> > From: Jon Elson elson
>>
>> > I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the
>> limited
>> > memory was a big killer.
>>
>> The good thing about the PDP-11 was
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
Jon Elson wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
> as his ISP. All members of the web ring l
> From: Don North
> Basically see no problems accessing any of the pages on sites.
> ...
> 12: be2019.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com 22.400ms asymm 8
> 13: no reply
> 14: no reply
> 15: ae0.cr1.mel4.on.ii.net 217.966ms asymm 19
Oh, that's really interesting. A bun
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good thing about the PDP-11 was the 16-bit word size. (It resulted in
what's probably the most elegant architect
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good thing about the PDP-11 was the 16-bit word size. (It resulted in
what's probably the most elegant architecture, in bang/buck terms, of all
time.) The bad
>Holm Tiffe wrote:
..have repaired a HH725 Harddisk /TA7245BP was bad since a tantal Elko had
a short) and booted now RT11 V5.07 with the new now repaired 1/73 CPU.
Resorc /A give the following informations:
.resorc /a
RT-11XB (S) V05.07
Booted from DL0:RT11XB
Resident Monitor base is 111
* Jon Elson [150910 21:32]:
[..SNIP..]
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in
> the US, to check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
> This is David Brooks' homebuilt 16-bit CPU.
>
> Please send me the results of your t
* Jon Elson [150910 21:32]:
[..SNIP..]
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in
> the US, to check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
> This is David Brooks' homebuilt 16-bit CPU.
>
> Please send me the results of your te
Five years ago the paper stock was still available in the US, and you
could get cards from Cardamation as well.
--
Will
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Christian Corti
wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Simon Claessen wrote:
>>
>> btw. in the Netherlands where I live, they are called ponskaarten and
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
ETIMEDOUT.
members.iinet.net.au resolves to 203.0.178.90 for me. mtr shows
HostLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 98.124.61.89 0.0% 3821.1 1.5 0.7 123.1 7.2
2
On 09/10/2015 08:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
check if they can view this page:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
It works for me here (northern Minnesota)
Jules
Can you do a traceroute to members.iinet.net.au? In case DNS is blocked,
the IP address is 203.0.178.90. I've been on iiNet since they bought out
my previous ISP.
Here's a traceroute sample:
1 75-145-20-102-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (75.145.20.102)
0.554 ms 1.468 ms 1.878 ms
2 9
Ben wrote
What I find more annoying, is this cloud crap.
"There is no such thing as 'the cloud', it's just someone else's computer."
Love that quote... so true... and I sell cloud services ;)
J
I have asked and will report back.
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian
> Corti
> Sent: 11 September 2015 09:12
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: punchcard svg file available
>
> On F
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian
> Corti
> Sent: 11 September 2015 09:12
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: punchcard svg file available
>
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
> > Coul
On 11/09/2015 02:32, Jon Elson wrote:
So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
check if they can view this page:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
Yes, I can (from York, UK, my ISP is Plusnet). Here's a traceroute:
1 cisco877 (x.x.x.x) 2.
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
Could not find anything on their web site...
You have to ask them directly, they should still have all the means
because they also do ATB stuff. That's what we did a few years ago, but
our "project" stalled because they wanted some obscure file format for
Could not find anything on their web site...
On Sep 11, 2015 8:51 AM, "Christian Corti"
wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Simon Claessen wrote:
>
>> btw. in the Netherlands where I live, they are called ponskaarten and are
>> nowhere to be find also. We only have one box of fresh cards and one box of
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Simon Claessen wrote:
btw. in the Netherlands where I live, they are called ponskaarten and are
nowhere to be find also. We only have one box of fresh cards and one box of
used cards with our IBM 029. Of course the unused cards stay in the depot
until we can do something us
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