Re: [ccp4bb] how to optimize crystallization of a membrane proteinf

2010-09-01 Thread wu donghui
It does not look like protein crystal and IZIT staining is not reliable in determining protein or other. Mostly it is like detergent or PEG crystal or quasi-crystal. Good luck Wu 2010/8/31 qiangm zhang > Hi all, > > I got a crystal of one membrane protein (~60kD) from Na/K phosphate > co

Re: [ccp4bb] how to optimize crystallization of a membrane proteinf

2010-09-01 Thread Joseph Lyons
When diffraction fails - one can always look at the crystals with a UV microscope (assuming you have Trp) - they should light up. Or if its possible - harvest them, wash and run a gel. (or if its detergent a TLC) Joe 2010/9/1 wu donghui > It does not look like protein crystal and IZIT stainin

Re: [ccp4bb] Is the difference between mFo and Fo maps supposed to be very small?

2010-09-01 Thread Ian Tickle
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Ed Pozharski wrote: > The > reason you see the missing region in (2mFo-DFc) map is because it is > effectively the sum of model map (mFo) which shows you the parts of the > model you have already placed and difference map (mFo-DFc) which shows > you the regions whic

[ccp4bb] Sftools can not handle non-standard settings?

2010-09-01 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear CCP4, In our automated data processing and refinement pipeline, phaser sometimes comes up with solutions in non-standard settings (e.g. P 21 2 21). These solutions subsequently fail in autobuster and it turned out that this is because autobuster invokes sftools and sftools apparently is not a

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools can not handle non-standard settings?

2010-09-01 Thread Claus Flensburg
Dear Herman, please find attached a patch for sftools that will add support for the following non-standard space group settings: A2, C21, I21, P2122, P2212, P21221, P22121 Note: the number for I21 follows the upcomming change to syminfo.lib: 3004 -> 5005. diffstat -p0 < CCP4-20091104-src-sft

Re: [ccp4bb] how to optimize crystallization of a membrane proteinf

2010-09-01 Thread Ezra's gmail
I cannot say what you have - running a gel, MS, etc of a washed crystal could confirm what you have. What you did not indicate is if your lack of diffraction was of frozen or unfrozen crystals. I have seen too many cases where it is the cryo condition killing diffraction. So if you have not tried

Re: [ccp4bb] how to optimize crystallization of a membrane proteinf

2010-09-01 Thread Ezra's gmail
I cannot say what you have - running a gel, MS, etc of a washed crystal could confirm what you have. What you did not indicate is if your lack of diffraction was of frozen or unfrozen crystals. I have seen too many cases where it is the cryo condition killing diffraction. So if you have not tried

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools can not handle non-standard settings?

2010-09-01 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Claus, Thank you very much for this patch. We will install it, and I hope CCP4 will install it quickly as well ;-). Still I do not understand why sftools has all symmetry operations hardcoded, while most other programs use the CCP4 libraries. In that way, sftools would always be up to date an

Re: [ccp4bb] Is the difference between mFo and Fo maps supposed to be very small?

2010-09-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
Ian is, as always, absolutely right. The only comment/correction I have is that Hailang was apparently referring to severely incomplete model, for which the poor phases will dominate the mFo map. Under such circumstances, even 2fo-fc map will not correctly reflect the actual relative contribution

Re: [ccp4bb] Is 2mF-DFc the best map possible? Was: Is the difference between mFo and Fo maps supposed to be very small?

2010-09-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
Following Ian's excellent comment, do I understand correctly that 2mFo-DFc is the maximum likelihood estimate of the full model map (i.e. the best map possible) or it's simply modification of 2Fo-Fc map where plain Fo/Fc are replaced by their maximum likelihood estimates? Other words, is k=2 the m

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools can not handle non-standard settings?

2010-09-01 Thread Bart Hazes
Hi Herman, As a former biomol user you might have guessed why. SFTOOLS found its origin as a transitional program helping the Groningen group move to the CCP4 mtz format. Since the Groningen MDF and CCP4 mtz had different ideas about space group symmetry and, especially, asymmetric unit defin

[ccp4bb] Practical MR advice

2010-09-01 Thread Roger Rowlett
I am trying to find a MR solution for a large unit cell (R3:H, 158x158x196) with a relatively poor, but I think workable search model (30% identity, 50% similarity). The data set is decent to 2.4 A. I might be able to get better if necessary. I submitted the  sequence of the target to the Phyre

Re: [ccp4bb] Practical MR advice

2010-09-01 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Roger, personally, I would take the four dimers from Phaser, strip off all side chains (make a poly-ala/gly), do a ML refinement with tight NCS restraints. The resulting map could then be on-the-fly real-space-averaged with Coot. At your resolution, I would expect to see the real register

Re: [ccp4bb] Practical MR advice

2010-09-01 Thread David Briggs
Hi Roger, I think your ideas are sound, but I would add some "prime-and-switch" density modification in resolve plus/minus ncs to try and improve the maps and cut down on phase bias. Hth, Dave -- Hand delivered by Androids On 1 Sep 2010 16:12, "Roger Rowlett" wrote: I am trying to find a MR

Re: [ccp4bb] how to optimize crystallization of a membrane proteinf

2010-09-01 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Qiangmin, All the comments and references that were already mentioned to you are excellent, I would stress 3 points. 1- The detergent. A clear distinction should be made between the detergent used for extraction/solubilization and the detergent (or cocktail of detergents/lipids) used for cryst

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Re: [ccp4bb] Thank you so much how to optimize crystallization of a membrane protein

2010-09-01 Thread qiangm zhang
Thank you for all of your suggestions. I think Pascal Egea has already summarized the points, and of course Edwin Pozharshi etc. Now I am trying to confirm if this crystal is detergent or not either using uv microscope or mass-spec. I also ordered Molecular dimensions stuff. Yes, I noticed that the

[ccp4bb] How to optimize protein-DNA complex conditions?

2010-09-01 Thread yang li
Dear All, Recently I am working on a protein-DNA complex, and from running agarose gel, there is a weak delayed band after the band of pure DNA which indicates some DNA has bind to the protein though the binding efficiency is low. Then I tried to optimize the condition to increase the bindi

Re: [ccp4bb] How to optimize protein-DNA complex conditions?

2010-09-01 Thread Phoebe Rice
Dear Yang, You might try acrylamide instead of agarose, since the caging effect of the tighter matrix might keep the complex together better. I'm not sure why MgATP? If your protein only binds in the presence of ATP you might need a non-hydrolyzable analog? Your concentrations are also vast

Re: [ccp4bb] how to optimize crystallization of a membrane proteinf

2010-09-01 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Some other things to try: 1. Co-crystallize with a ligand 2. crystallization with lipid cubic phase or bicelles 3. limited proteolysis to define a rigid core ho - Hi all, I got a crystal of one membrane protein (~60kD) from Na/K phosphate condition (

[ccp4bb] microseeding SeMet drops with native xtal seeds

2010-09-01 Thread amit sharma
Dear All, My SeMet protein crystals have a needle-like morphology, worse than that of the native xtals. Also, although the cell dimensions of both forms is very much similar, the SeMet xtals are twinned(as indicated by Ctruncate plots). I was wondering if such cases were commonly seen, also is it

Re: [ccp4bb] microseeding SeMet drops with native xtal seeds

2010-09-01 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Yes, on both counts. SeMet proteins can be frustratingly* close to their native forms - with little quirks like twinning or lack of useful diffraction etc. It's common practice to micro (or macro) seed with native crystals and it often works quite well. It's fun and sometimes useful to add a few ul