[ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread james09 pruza
Dear all, I need suggestions regarding phase separation. Upon adding NaCl (100mM) in the crystallization mixture, the full-fledged oiling is observed after 2 days at 4 degree with long needles (pH 3.6). The Protein contains 50mM of NaCl. What are the general procedures to get the crystals from oil

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi James, I would first ask you what is your crystallization condition? You mentioned MPD at 70%. Very high concentration (and this is very high) of organic non volatile alcohols like MPD or polymers like PEGs will promote phase separation if there is some salt around. The higher the polymer concen

[ccp4bb] monomer library for stereoisomers ?

2009-10-17 Thread Mueller, Juergen-Joachim
Dear all, using ccp4 6.2.1 I have difficulties with the stereochemistry of oligosaccharide ligands as years ago(My Mail from 2005: stereoisomer as alternative conformations). REFMAC uses NAG-B-D but we have also NAG-A-D with an occupancy 0.70:0.30 bound in the same place. REFMAC has problems wi

[ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread james09 pruza
Dear CCP4bbers, Surprisingly, only At pH 3.6 the needles are appearing after 3 days but they are very thin and long rods. I have checked it running SDS-PAGE as well as using IZIT dye . Since the proteins has already 50mM of NaCl so I added 100mM of NaCl in the crystallization mix. The crystal app

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
Going from 4 to 25 degrees should let you have your crystals faster (if the protein stands that temperature, you should have checked it already). As to improving the crystals, why don't you try the additive kits (several vendors offer these, including some in a form suited for screening by robot

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Jürgen Bosch
What do you define as thin and long rods, for some of us this could be huge crystals. What's your best guestimate regarding the size ? One way of approximating this is taking a loop of know size and focus on it, then focus on the crystal and guess. Small crystals does not necessarily mean the

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Savvas Savvides
Hi James, just out of curiosity. Did IZIT convincingly color the crystals? We have recently seen that crystals grown in high concentrations of MPD do not color with IZIT. This phenomenon was documented in Eckert et al. Acta Cryst. (2003). D59, 139-141. Best regards Savvas Savvas

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2009-10-17 Thread Vellieux Frederic
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