What do you define as thin and long rods, for some of us this could be huge crystals. What's your best guestimate regarding the size ? One way of approximating this is taking a loop of know size and focus on it, then focus on the crystal and guess. Small crystals does not necessarily mean they don't diffract. I recently got a 2.2 Å dataset with something that was 20x20 x80 µm the largest unit cell dimension was 220 Å (needless to say the data was collected at [advertisement on] SSRL9-2[advertisement off])

Your MPD condition will freeze no matter what you do with it, so that's good (assuming you setup a 1:1 drop, therefore starting at 35% MPD). How big are your drops ? If they are fairly large say 1 µl, then the following trick might work. A different option you could try out is the following. Premix your protein with the 70% MPD condition in an Eppendorf tube and distribute the mix onto a new plate. The reservoir of the plate should then have maybe 40-60%MPD, so you are starting off closer to equilibrium but then have a smoother gradient to the final concentration. The crystals might take longer to appear but they might grow bigger too and you might find some conditions without phase separation. Temperature will definitely help but then you might need more protein.

Just some thoughts,

Jürgen

On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:44 PM, james09 pruza wrote:

Dear CCP4bbers,

Surprisingly, only At pH 3.6 the needles are appearing after 3 days but they are very thin and long rods. I have checked it running SDS- PAGE as well as using IZIT dye . Since the proteins has already 50mM of NaCl so I added 100mM of NaCl in the crystallization mix. The crystal appeared at 70% of MPD. Bunch of florets appears without NaCl at the same condition. Will the Additives like Ethanol or 2- propanol help in this condition? Should I not use NaCl in the mix? Changing temperature from 4degree to 25 degree will help?
Please advice.

Thanks a lot.
James


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