Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection ideas for salt based condition

2014-02-11 Thread Mahesh Lingaraju
Hi all Just wanted to thank you all for all the suggestions and tell you of all the things i tried what finally worked, if anyones interested. Among the several things mentioned here, the crystals diffracted the best (~ 2.9 Å at the synchrotron) when grown in a solution containing either 5% ethyl

[ccp4bb] cryoprotection condition

2014-02-09 Thread rana ibd
Dear CCP4 Thank you for your suggestions Best Regards Rana

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection condition

2014-02-08 Thread Matthias Zebisch
Hi Rana, you are almost there. For the first one I'd add (if at all) 5% PEG200 and for the second I'd mix in 10% PEG200. Only very big crystals might need even more cryoprotectant. Best, Matthias - Dr. Matthias Zebisch Division of Structural Biology, W

[ccp4bb] cryoprotection condition

2014-02-08 Thread rana ibd
Dear CCP4 Does anyone know a good cryoprotection condition for these two conditions I would be grateful The first condition:  10% PEG 2, 20%PEG MME 550. 0.03M of NPS ( NPS is sodium nitrate, disodium hydrogen phosphate, and ammonium sulfate), 0.1MMES/Imadizole pH 6.5 The second condition: 20%

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection ideas for salt based condition

2014-01-22 Thread Mahesh Lingaraju
cryo-protectants you have already tried. For the ones that work, repeat > with higher amounts. Very often crystals are much happier when you don't > soak/tinker with them and freeze them straight out of the drop. > > Good luck. > > Mark > > > > -Original

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection ideas for salt based condition

2014-01-22 Thread Mark van der Woerd
araju To: CCP4BB Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:38 am Subject: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection ideas for salt based condition Hello folks, I have crystals for a protein which form in 0.1 M MES pH 6-6.75, 10% dioxane and 1.6-2 M Ammonium sulphate. Based on little experience I have finding the

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection ideas for salt based condition

2014-01-22 Thread Roger Rowlett
Mahesh, Try 25-30% glucose. You can gradually add well solution + 37.5-40% glucose directly to the drop if your crystals are sensitive to changes in osmotic pressure. If your drop is evaporating too quickly, try working in the cold room or under oil to slow down evaporation. You can find our

[ccp4bb] cryoprotection ideas for salt based condition

2014-01-22 Thread Mahesh Lingaraju
Hello folks, I have crystals for a protein which form in 0.1 M MES pH 6-6.75, 10% dioxane and 1.6-2 M Ammonium sulphate. Based on little experience I have finding the right cryoprotection for salt based conditions; I have tried glycerol (15-25%), Ethylene glycol (20-25%), DMSO (15-20%) and increas

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-27 Thread Herman . Schreuder
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Enrico Stura Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. August 2013 11:58 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection Herman, The trick you suggest is not as valid as you may think. The ice rings can originate from the crystal itself. If you crystallize in

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-27 Thread Enrico Stura
itag, 23. August 2013 19:52 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection Hello Can anyone suggest a cryoprotectant for the following crystallization condition 0.2-0.4M sodium formate ~20% PEG 3350 0-25 mM Nickel 0-100 mM Malonate Thank you with regards uday -- Enrico A. S

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-26 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Uday Kumar Gesendet: Freitag, 23. August 2013 19:52 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection Hello Can anyone suggest a cryoprotectant for the following crystallization condition 0.2-0.4M sodium

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-24 Thread Reddiravikumar Kumar
Dear uday, I have grown crystals in 0.2M sodium formate and 20% peg3350, i tried cryo solution cotaining 0.2M sodium formate and peg1050 40%, it worked well for me and diffracted to 2.3A at home source. 0.2-0.4M sodium formate 40% PEG 1050 0-25 mM Nickel 0-100 mM Malonate On Fri, Aug 23, 2013

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-23 Thread Alexander D. Scouras
I've had good success transferring crystals grown in 200 mM NaOAc pH 5.5 / 10% PEG Into a solution for room temperature diffraction (in ~6 steps, peg first, then buffers) : 100 mM NaOAc / 100 mM Malonate / 30% PEG And from there into a cryo solution in 4-5 steps) that was: 100 mM NaOAc / 100

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-23 Thread Bosch, Juergen
increase your PEG3350 >27% and keep the other components at their current concentration. You can also add glycerol or ethylene glycol into the mix. If you have multiple crystals then try various variants. Jürgen On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Uday Kumar wrote: Hello Can anyone suggest a cryopro

[ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-23 Thread Uday Kumar
Hello Can anyone suggest a cryoprotectant for the following crystallization condition 0.2-0.4M sodium formate ~20% PEG 3350 0-25 mM Nickel 0-100 mM Malonate Thank you with regards uday

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection for fragile crystals

2010-03-02 Thread Sean Seaver
I believe this is the article that you are looking for: http://www.xtals.org/crystal_cryo.pdf Cheers, Sean

[ccp4bb] cryoprotection for fragile crystals

2010-03-02 Thread Laurie Betts
I found within the last few years a nice flowchart that someone (I think it was Artem Evdokimov) had posted somewhere for a protocol for dealing with crystals that you couldn't just quick dip, and now I can't find it - maybe he can send it to me offbb??? Thanks Laurie Betts UNC CHapel Hill

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-20 Thread Joerg Standfuss
Hi Brenda, Maybe you want to have a look at the cryoprotectant database for protein crystals. http://idb.exst.jaxa.jp/db_data/protein/search-e.php There you can search for your precipitant and get a list of compatible freezing conditions that worked before including the reference. It is

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-20 Thread Richard Bayliss
: +32- (0)9-264.51.24 ; mobile: +32-(0)472-92.85.19 Email: savvas.savvi...@ugent.be http://www.lprobe.ugent.be/xray.html -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Schulman, Brenda Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:19 PM To: CC

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread James Holton
bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Schulman, Brenda Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:19 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate Hello! I would be grateful for suggestions on cryoprotectants for crystals growing in > 3M a

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Brett, Thomas
bulletin board [ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Savvas Savvides [savvas.savvi...@ugent.be] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:47 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate Hi Brenda Try > 3M ammonium sulfate itself! We have tried that with

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Ohren, Jeffrey
ulman, Brenda Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:19 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate Hello! I would be grateful for suggestions on cryoprotectants for crystals growing in > 3M ammonium sulfate. Thanks! Brenda Email Disclaimer: www

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Savvas Savvides
-Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Schulman, Brenda Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:19 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate Hello! I would be grateful for suggestions on cryoprot

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Christine Gee
Dear Brenda Check out malonate http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14646118? ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubm ed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum Malonate: a versatile cryoprotectant and stabilizing solution for salt-grown macromolecular crystals. H

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Roger Rowlett
Soluble possibilities include glucose, ethylene glycol, DMSO, glycerol (15-30%). You may not need much cryoprotectant at all at these salt concentrations. PEGs are not very soluble in high ammonium sulfate solutions. (I think PEG-400 can go up to only 4% or so at 2 M ammonium sulfate.) Cheers

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Brenda, You can try sugars like glucose, trehalose and sucrose for high AS contents. It has been succesfully used in really hard cases such at protein RNA crystals grown in AS. see Acta Cryst (2002) D58 1664-1669 Garber et al. HTH Pascal Egea

[ccp4bb] Cryoprotection in > 3M ammonium sulfate

2009-08-19 Thread Schulman, Brenda
Hello! I would be grateful for suggestions on cryoprotectants for crystals growing in > 3M ammonium sulfate. Thanks! Brenda Email Disclaimer: www.stjude.org/emaildisclaimer