I third it - we used 3.2M + 5% glycerol ammonium sulfate to cryoprotect crystals grown in 1.2M ammonium suphate (Bayliss et al. JBC 2002). This really helped diffraction too. My tip when handling drops at very high salt is to make a little circle of wet tissue paper around your coverslip to make a humidity chamber. You'll have much longer to fish crystals out of the drop before salt crystals start to form.

Good luck
Richard

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On 19 Aug 2009, at 7:20 PM, James Holton wrote:

I second that one. Ammonium sulfate is one of my favorite cryos. I recommend making up a saturated solution of ammonium sulfate, as it is actually a very good cryo all by itself, and then "dilute" it by adding the rest of the stuff in your condition (buffers, etc. and a little bit of water). You want to be a little below saturation so that the salt does not grow crystals of its own while you are soaking. This is especially important if your protein crystals are hexagonal rods!

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Savvas Savvides wrote:
Hi Brenda
Try > 3M ammonium sulfate itself! We have tried that with great succes by cryo-cooling xtals grown at 3.2M AS straight out of their crystallization drops. You can consult the "M&M" section in Kyndt J. et al Biochemistry 2007
Jan 9;46(1):95-105 for a more detailed description of what we did.

Best of luck
Savvas

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Hello!

I would be grateful for suggestions on cryoprotectants for crystals growing
in > 3M ammonium sulfate.

Thanks!

Brenda


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