Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Hargreaves, David
K] On Behalf Of Eva Bligt-Lindén Sent: 07 November 2012 12:07 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization Dear ccp4 users, I have a problem in the crystallization of my target protein. Whenever I set up a vapour diffusion experiment, either hanging or sitting drops, the dr

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 16:04 +0200, Eva Bligt-Lindén wrote: > To my knowledge the protein is not a > surface-tension-reducing-protein and there is no detergent in the > sample. However your observations indicate that your sample has reduced surface tension. When you say that "to your knowledg

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Eva Yes batch under oil will solve the problem. We regularly used to crystallize conditions with high levels of MPD under oil without difficulty. I agree that the protein might be reducing the surface tension, but I've never heard of such a strong effect. Maybe the protein is unstable and "want

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Ulrike Demmer
Dear Eva, are you using siliconized cover slips or normal ones ? Protein drops on not siliconized glass tend to spread especially if they contain alcohol or detergent. But this shouldn't be a problem with sitting drops usually. Good luck ! Ulrike

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Prince, D Bryan
these xtal tools. Good luck! Bryan From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Rob Gillespie Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:19 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization Qiagen used to sell hanging-drop trays with screw

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Rob Gillespie
Qiagen used to sell hanging-drop trays with screw-cap tops, and the tops had six rings on them (3 large, 3 small). The rings had a lip on them that kept the drop from spreading beyond the edge. I found these quite useful when setting up drops that had detergent in them. I unfortunately don't kno

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Eva Bligt-Lindén
Thank you for your replies. To my knowledge the protein is not a surface-tension-reducing-protein and there is no detergent in the sample. I have tried different plates and still the same result. I will try a different crystallization technique such as batch under oil or counter-diffusion i

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread anna anna
Why don't you try batch under oil? 2012/11/7 Eva Bligt-Lindén > Dear ccp4 users, > > I have a problem in the crystallization of my target protein. Whenever I > set up a vapour diffusion experiment, either hanging or sitting drops, the > drops spread out. The surface tension is completely lost in

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread vellieux
Hi there, You could try to go for liquid-liquid interface crystallisation (in capillaries). The minimum volume would be no less than 1.5 microl protein + 1.5 microl precipitant, i.e. not the volumes used by nanodrop robots. Crystallisation under oil (or similar liquids) should also have the

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Mark J van Raaij
is your protein a STRP (surface-tension-reducing protein)? Seriously, did you try different plates? Old-fashioned siliconised cover slips on Linbro plates? Does your sample contain detergent? Mark J van Raaij Laboratorio M-4 Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia

[ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Eva Bligt-Lindén
Dear ccp4 users, I have a problem in the crystallization of my target protein. Whenever I set up a vapour diffusion experiment, either hanging or sitting drops, the drops spread out. The surface tension is completely lost in 80-90% of the droplets. Have any one experienced something similar