Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Savvas Savvides
...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of james09 pruza Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:44 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals Dear CCP4bbers, Surprisingly, only At pH 3.6 the needles are appearing after 3 days but they are very thin and long rods. I have checked it

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Jürgen Bosch
What do you define as thin and long rods, for some of us this could be huge crystals. What's your best guestimate regarding the size ? One way of approximating this is taking a loop of know size and focus on it, then focus on the crystal and guess. Small crystals does not necessarily mean the

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
ng by robotics, forgot the name of the company). Fred. > Message du 17/10/09 19:44 > De : "james09 pruza" > A : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Copie à : > Objet : [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals > > Dear CCP4bbers, > > Surprisingly, only At pH 3.6 the needles

[ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread james09 pruza
Dear CCP4bbers, Surprisingly, only At pH 3.6 the needles are appearing after 3 days but they are very thin and long rods. I have checked it running SDS-PAGE as well as using IZIT dye . Since the proteins has already 50mM of NaCl so I added 100mM of NaCl in the crystallization mix. The crystal app

Re: [ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi James, I would first ask you what is your crystallization condition? You mentioned MPD at 70%. Very high concentration (and this is very high) of organic non volatile alcohols like MPD or polymers like PEGs will promote phase separation if there is some salt around. The higher the polymer concen

[ccp4bb] Phase separation to crystals

2009-10-17 Thread james09 pruza
Dear all, I need suggestions regarding phase separation. Upon adding NaCl (100mM) in the crystallization mixture, the full-fledged oiling is observed after 2 days at 4 degree with long needles (pH 3.6). The Protein contains 50mM of NaCl. What are the general procedures to get the crystals from oil