Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
probably sounds crazy, but I know that only a microkernel OS can do
something like that, so the Hurd may be appropriate :-)
Sorry for being late with the idea
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:35:48 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
> that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
> probably sounds crazy, but I know that only a microkernel OS can do
> something like that, so
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:23:04 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> I've just uploaded the .mp4 version. It's here:
> http://www.vimeo.com/2097773
Many thanks!
I hope they'll include it in the code_swarm feed soon!
Best wishes,
Arne
-- My stuff: http://draketo.de - stories, songs, poems, programs
* Arne Babenhauserheide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 10:51:15 schrieb Benoit FREMON:
> > How is this different from what marketing people call "Cloud Computing" ?
> > Perhaps using the Hurd this way gives you more control, but I don't see
> > much difference here...
>
>
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 10:51:15 schrieb Benoit FREMON:
> How is this different from what marketing people call "Cloud Computing" ?
> Perhaps using the Hurd this way gives you more control, but I don't see
> much difference here...
Asking the question the other way round: Is could computing a
* Arne Babenhauserheide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:35:48 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> > Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
> > that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
> > probably sounds crazy, but I know t
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 11:26:36 schrieb Benoit FREMON:
> I don't see why the Hurd (or subhurds) couldn't be used as a platform for
> cloud computing. But as this buzzword spread like fire on the internet, and
> cloud computing is more and more used (even MS is aware of the trend, and
> acting:
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 09:51:39 +0100, a écrit :
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 09:35:48 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov:
> > Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
>
> It sounds just crazy enough to become a reality someday :)
Well, I think it is just _poss
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 11:46:08 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide:
> @all: Why are YOU working on the Hurd?
>
> What is the niche the Hurd fills for you?
I figured I should start myself :)
This is the niche it fills for me:
"With the Hurd, users can change anything in their system which does
Hi,
I've been reading about GNU/Hurd. In linux, a driver for a graphics card done
in the kernel needs to be tediously debugged using printk() and related because
it's not running in user context.
Would a graphics driver (that needs access to system IO) in Hurd be running in
a user context where i
Russell Shaw, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 19:15:46 +1100, a écrit :
> Would a graphics driver (that needs access to system IO) in Hurd be
> running in a user context where i can use gdb on it?
The Hurd console can be debuggued that way, yes!
Samuel
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:35:24AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> - http://draketo.de/filme/codeswarm/hurd-gsoc2008.ogv
> (Please tell me what you think about it!)
Well, quite impressive -- nice work! :-)
-antrik-
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:03:37AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> As the Brainstorm Phase is finished, it's time for a Reality Check:
> Give back power to users:
While this was indeed the main idea behind the Hurd design, it is rather
vague for the most part. We have the archit
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > If most systems just differ by the translators setup on them, people
> > could even transfer their whole environment from one computer to
> > another one without needing root access or more root interaction than
> > creating a new
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I mentioned the desktop thing as one possible showcase. The problem here
> is that it is a task for many years... Would be nice to have some
> hurdish applications for showing around, in a closer timeframe.
And I think we're close t
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> However, I dwelt on an interesting variation above: For *virtual*
> appliances the Hurd might be interesting -- using hurdish
> subenvironments instead of full virtualisation, they could be more
> efficient and convenient.
What does
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I guess it's not too hard to come up with a mechanism to allow for that;
> but it must be readily available, so users can activate it easily. Even
> better if it was active by default...
>
> I fear though that such radical things hav
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> And when the development is done, the really hard part will begin:
> Pushing it to the "masses".
Careful with that thought!
To get and _keep_ the masses we only need to push it to a niche, and grab
that. The masses don't readily
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > Another example of features which would be easily possible with the
> > Hurd:
> >
> > * media-player translator:
> > - settrans play /hurd/mediaplayer_play
> > - cp song1.ogg song2.ogg play - # -> files ge
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > - operating system study purposes as its done with minix
>
> I wonder what would be necessary to make the Hurd more interesting in
> this aspect. Probably mostly boils down to various kinds of
> documentation as well...
I think a
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 17:35:16 +0100, a écrit :
> Transparent ftp out of the box would be a cool feature, too.
Err, well we can already setup that automatically, it's just a matter of
touch /ftp:
settrans /ftp: /hurd/hostmux /hurd/ftpfs /
Samuel
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 17:43:48 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> Arne Babenhauserheide, le Wed 29 Oct 2008 17:35:16 +0100, a écrit :
> > Transparent ftp out of the box would be a cool feature, too.
>
> Err, well we can already setup that automatically, it's just a matter of
>
> touch /ftp:
> settran
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 17:35:16 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > Another example of features which would be easily possible with the
> > > Hurd:
> > >
> > > * media-player translator:
> > > - settrans play /hurd/me
Sergiu Ivanov wrote:
> Is it possible to run only *parts* of the Hurd on separate computers,
> that is, make the Hurd a kind of a network operating system. It most
> probably sounds crazy, but I know that only a microkernel OS can do
> something like that, so the Hurd may be appropriate :-)
>
> So
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 11:46:08 schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide:
> > @all: Why are YOU working on the Hurd?
> >
> > What is the niche the Hurd fills for you?
>
For me the Hurd is the operating system where any
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