Dear all,
Is anyone here involved in the OpenBraile initiative ?
http://www.openbraille.org
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Hi,
marqu...@studi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (2010/08/02 17:19 +0200):
> I have one more question: Is it also possible to test the input of braille
> keys with some virtual braille terminal? The xwindow driver seems to be
> only for displaying the output.
No, normally you should see a virtual k
> I'm using the windows version of BRLTTY. The xwindow driver displays me
> only the cells of the braille display, no keyboard. I can click on the
> cells, but the input is not delivered to the program (client).
Have you tried the vs model ?
(see Drivers/Braille/XWindow/R
e display to display what they
want. brlapi has one part in brltty which receives the requests of other
applications, and one part as a library other applications may use to
send their requests to brltty andprocess its replies.
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you have to give to the xwindow driver will emulate it.
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Hello,
Mario Lang (2011/06/01 16:26 +0200):
> Yes, you're unfortunately right, while the table format is roughly
> the same (not identical AFAIK), the contents seems to be quite different
> and maintained by separate people. I just checked this for the german
> grade 2 contraction, which has inde
in adifferent module if this is preferred...
I'd definitely work in that direction rather than working on merging
tables for the two system, the inconvenient of this kind of mergings in
the long run being so well known they are not worth being detailed here.
Shérab.
Hello,
Mario Lang (2012/03/18 13:30 +0100):
> Anyone seen similar behaviour?
Yes. Even moving the cursorone character to the right or the left with
routing keys fails most of the time here. Oh but this happens even with
an older brltty so perhaps the problem is in lynx ?
Sherab.
> If it's the problem that I think it is, it has to do with status lines which
> contain things like the current cursor position. As the cursor moves, the
> status line is updated. Updating the status line requires temporarily moving
> the cursor to an unexpected place. If the timing is just wro
Dave Mielke (2012/03/19 16:10 -0400):
> Please test the latest dvelopment code to see if the problem is still
> occurring.
It seems to fix the problem, indeed.*
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> The problem it resolves is the cursor being temporarily moved to an
> unexpected
> location, so that must be happening.
>
> To do this, brltty has to wait a little longer to ensure that the cursor has
> stopped moving around. I'm very interested, therefore, in as many users as
> possibl
Hello,
Dave Mielke (2012/03/19 17:01 -0400):
> [quoted lines by Shérab on 2012/03/19 at 21:52 +0100]
>
> >What I've noticed e.g. when running brltty in the Iris is that one can
> >see the cursor moving on the display to its final position and the whole
> >process see
Hi,
Mario Lang (2011/04/27 23:47 +0200):
> Sébastien Hinderer writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My braille display is connected to the computer with a USB to serial
> > adapter. If I have to unplug the adapter for some reason and then plug
> > it again, the braille display does not work any longer. The
Hi,
Jason White (2011/12/11 09:19 +1100):
> Shérab wrote:
>
> > Does somebody know a way, preferably using text-mode only, to compute
> > the value of a CSS property at some point in an HTML document ?
>
> The only solution I am aware of is to read the style sheets an
Dear Mario, Vladimir and Dave,
many thanks for the feedbackyou guys provided, it ws all very useful.
Dave Mielke (2012/04/06 19:47 -0400):
> [quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2012/04/07 at 00:54 +0200]
>
> >I guess you could define a udev rule for it and have it named always
> >consistently.
>
>
Hello,
Aren't there Demo versions of Jaws you could use to test ?
Have you considered trying BRLTTY under Windows ?
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Hello,
perhaps related issue here with the Iris driver:
to understand the problem one has to know that the key used to begin a
cut is the same than for moving left one window, that is when i's
pressed alone it goes left one window but when it's pressed in
conjunction with a routing key it begins a
Hello,
Samuel and I would like to have the attached API document patch commited
before 4.4 is released.
Thanks,
Sherab.
Index: brlapi.h.in
===
--- brlapi.h.in (révision 6559)
+++ brlapi.h.in (copie de travail)
@@ -435,10 +435,10 @@
Hello,
> I'll wait for the rest of today (Wednesday) in case there are any last minute
> requests or comments. If I don't hear any then 4.4 should be released
> tomorrow
> (Thursday).
By the way: is there any chance to be able to fix the copy/paste problem
in the Iris driver before 4.4 ?
Sher
Hello,
when the device is powered donw, does the driver return
BRL_CMD_OFFLINE ?
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Jason White (2012/06/17 18:34 +1000):
> The driver code in updateBaumKeys() in the driver which handles this case is:
>
> case BAUM_RSP_PowerdownSignal:
> if (!logBaumPowerdownReason(packet.data.values.powerdownReason)) continue;
> errno = ENODEV;
> return;
I don't know whether this way of
Dear all,
getting this error while compiling brltty:
/usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: tbl2hex.build.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against
`.rodata.str1.1' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with
-fPIC
tbl2hex.build.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit sta
Samuel Thibault (2012/07/07 09:37 -0300):
> What was it linking?
tbl2hex
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Hello,
still unable to solve this problem.
Here is the command and again the errors it produces:
gcc -o tbl2hex tbl2hex.build.o program.build.o pid.build.o options.build.o
log.build.o file.build.o device.build.o parse.build.o timing.build.o
io_misc.build.o sys_linux.build.o charset.build.o chars
Samuel Thibault (2012/07/09 14:40 +0200):
> What's important here is the -fPIE -pie, which is spurious. IIRC it's
> icu-config which used to emit them. Upgrading to version 4.8.1.1-8
> should fix that.
Yes! That fixed it, thank you !
Best wishes,
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Dear all,
it seems to me it would be useful if brltty was able to load several
braille tables simultaneously, provided that the tables do not
disagree on how a character should be displayed, of course.
What do you guys think about such a feature ?
Cheers,
Sherab.
Hello,
the attached patch provides a representation for quotes in the fr-vs
braille table.
Sherab.
Index: Tables/fr-vs.ttb
===
--- Tables/fr-vs.ttb (révision 6631)
+++ Tables/fr-vs.ttb (copie de travail)
@@ -144,7 +144,7 @@
char \xA8
Hey Jason,
> You can already include one table in another, for example:
> include table.cti
> loads table.cti and inserts it, I assume, somewhat like the #include
> preprocessor directive in C.
Yes, this is what I'm currently using, indeed.
> Does this solve your problem, or is there something y
the right way to do this would be to propose that such
> a table be included in BRLTTY by default for everyone.
It does not look good tome to include a table for every combinatino
people may want to use.
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brltty and which conflict with each other ?
> As such, I'm wondering how useful such a feature would
> ctually be.
How about the exaple I gave of a person usingmainly a western language
such as english or french but also, somtimes, another alnguage using
Dave Mielke (2012/08/31 10:29 -0400):
> >How about the exaple I gave of a person usingmainly a western language
> >such as english or french but also, somtimes, another alnguage using
> >another alphabet ?
>
> I think most (maybe all) already do include the Latin letters anyway.
I'm not sure what
Hi Nicole,
Did you try the apitest program that comes with BRLTTY?
Does that work?
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t; > directly
> > as the text to be written.
>
> Right, that should be working too.
That being said, shouldn't we at some point start thinking aout BRLTTY
somehow using liblouis or at least liblouistables?
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just wanted to raise the issue.
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les quelques francophones qui ont posé
des questions? Tu les connaissais?
Bises,
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Oops sorry, the message was intended to be just for Samuel ;-)
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Dear all,
Just tried to make speech-dispatcher work with ibmtts (french non-free
speech synthesis) on Unstaable.
At the moment it fails because libasound_module_conf_pulse.so is
missing. It's a 64 bits architecture here and the file is normally
provided by the package libasound2-plugins. But ibmt
Hmm that message was not intended for the brltty list either! Sorry!
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Hi,
> Whether or not it's safe to write in one thread while reading in another is a
> question I'd prefer Samuel to answer.
It is safe.
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these keypresses and they are delivered to
brltty's core, it seems the screen driver does not handle them properly.
I'm attaching a debug log. What do you think?
Best wishes,
Shérab.
BRLTTY 4.5-x rev 5477 [http://mielke.cc/brltty/]
brltty.exe: Working Directory: C:\Program Files\BRLTTY
brltt
HI,
> I can't get things to work properly when setting up brltty as i use to.
> Nothing works as i expected it to.
> It wont start at startup and keys of my handytech modular evolution 88 does
> not work.
> Here is what i do to configure and set up brltty from its root directory.
> ./configure --
Hi,
> I am using brlapi_writeTextWin to write dots on braille device, and I found
> that the cursor is always shown on device, instead of blinking. Anyone
> knows how to let cursor blink on device?
This is currently not possible. At the moment, if a client wants to have
a blinking cursor, it has
Dongyu (2014/02/03 11:51 -0600):
> Thank you for giving me this idea.
> I will go to program it by myself.
Well, sorry not to provide as a service already.
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s one to do a few things, but i still get the impression
that not all the things that can be don through the website can be done
in another way, and I don't feel the web site is very accessible.
Any comment on this wold be warmly appreciated.
Than
Dear all,
Does somebody know whether the integration of brltty into Grub had been
completed?
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Hi,
The problem of creating categories is that there is always potential
insatisfaction,since it binds several things together one may want to
distinguish. Since the number of alerts is reasonable, I'm in favour of
having one seting per alert rather than introducing categories.
Cheers,
S
Cheryl,
You cold use the WINDOW environment variable which seems to be defined
inside of screen but perhapsnot outside, you'd need to confirm this on
your own system. Then in you scrippts test whether it's defined or not
and set ps1 accordingly.
h
You're welcome Cheryl, happy to help.
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screen package itself?
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Dear Raoul,
Jean-Philippe and I planned to work on the Esys problem at the end of
September. Is that too late for you?
Regarding screen: isn't it possible to have the patch integrated
directly upstream rather than just in the macports?
Cheers,
S
Hi Raoul,
How do you configure brltty?
How do you run it?
When you try the Eys, make usure to use the
-b eu
options on the command line to make sure it really is the Eurobraille
driver which is used.
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Which version do you have?
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aille-parameters eu:protocol=iris
The prblem is that protocol audtodetection seems to be broken somehow.
Until it is fixed, it won't hurt to specify the protocl explicitly so
that the driver will at least be called.
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Shérab (2014/09/16 17:08 +0200):
> braille-parameters eu:protocol=iris
I do insist that it has to be iris although your display is an esys! The
line above is correct!
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Hi again,
Shérab (2014/09/16 17:10 +0200):
> Shérab (2014/09/16 17:08 +0200):
> > braille-parameters eu:protocol=iris
>
> I do insist that it has to be iris although your display is an esys! The
> line above is correct!
No no sorry, I was wrong.
I just checked the source cod
rs in an easier way?
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change configuration, etc. Is tere something
special that needs to be done from there to ge the PC connected to the
PC? I's configured into USB already.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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Hi again,
Okay, now the device works. I can read the screen but don't know yet how
to do Enter or Bckspace, any hint welcome!
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solve the issue, at least in the
case of the preferences file?
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you can't make PulseAudio start as root during system
startup?
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emps et si tu en es satisait?
Chaleureusement,
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Oops sorry...
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Dear Eric,
Many thanks for such a friendly response.
I'm delighted I could help you and find your use case very interesting.
I'd definitely be happy to be informed about how all this evolves.
Yes I have a tweeter account but it's kind of dead, I don't use it and
am not sure I ever did. ;-)
Best
so that you can start using your device.
Hope this helps.
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root. I am sudoer to start, stop
> /etc/init.d/brltty and I can also configure brltty.conf.
>
> In brltty.conf i forced
> braille-driver hw
> without success.
You could try to add
braille-device us:
to get a brltty.conf that is equivale
Dominique Asselineau (2015/11/12 13:20 +0100):
> > braille-device us:
>
> braille-device usb:
Yes that was a typo, sorry.
> It is not sufficient. Must be added:
>
> braille-driver hw
Yes both lines are required, of course.
That's why I said "ad
t it so far that it didn't happen?
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you mention would be there everything
would work fine but it's not! :)
And by the way I tried
apt-file update && apt-file search 40-usb-brltty.rules
which didn't find anything.
Is that supposed to be a bug?
Thanks!
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or the Debian Installer...
> If Samuel sees this thread, he will certainly shed some light.
> I an CCing him, just in case.
Thanks!
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evices
and still having hotplug enabled to support devices that are connected
occasionnaly only. I do realise that even that would not cover all
situations, of course.
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braille keyboard as is the case on HumanWare's brailliant.
Does such a device already exist?
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ne such a device with a smartphone or so than to rely on a
full solution which will most of the time be limited somehow.
So thanks a lot, I'll definitely have a look into these!
Best wishes,
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d out the real attributes. However, BRLTTY should tell users
> that it does not know about the attributes, rather than lying to them,
> IMHO.
Sure! And ultimately, the colours should be exposed by the terminal
widget IMO. I am even surprised it is not
also imagine a mode of brltty
where it would simply exit at device disconnection. All that being
said...
> Do you see what I am trying to get at?
Yes, I do. And I also realise that what I suggested above may just shift
the problem to a different place...
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Hey Mario!
Thanks for your response! So helpful!
Mario Lang (2015/11/13 11:07 +0100):
> Shérab writes:
>
> > I realise that what I am really looking for in terms of braille device
> > would be one that has both a braille display and a PC-style keyboard. In
> > other wor
Mike Keithley (2015/11/13 05:39 -0800):
> I think the Inka braille display includes The old XT PC-style
> keyboard.
Thanks Mike! Will have a look into this, too.
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I guessthis is a very oldmodle?
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AT-SPI good enough for that? Or is it too heavy for instance?
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. I was just wondering whether it wouldn't e
possible to improve r enrich AT-SPI to make it more suitable for
terminals, my concern being to avoid having too many standards and APIs
around. But if you think it's best to just have another API besides, I
am fine.
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Hi,
You should probably run
./autogen
before running ./configure.
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t use it myself but I think yes, it does work. Somebody else will
most likely confirm.
> is there an similar open source tool like nvda on apple?
Not that I know, because the access to the graphical interface is
provided by VoiceOver that already comes with
don't want to break it either. :-) I'll probably add a driver parameter to
> specify the keyboard type, and have it default to a braille keyboard.
Doesn't the comunication protocol provide a way to detect the keyboard
type? That would s
Dear all,
Recently my brailliant fall on the floor. It wasn't damaged but the
language of the internal menu switched from french to german. Does
anybody know how to change the firmware language, please?
Thanks!
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een FWINRT and
FWINRTSKIP is used by Orca and then make sure it is really that command
which is triggered by your keypress. You can see this with the command
learn mode.
hth,
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7;s clearly something
to report to the Orca team.
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ously, dot 7 and space
simultaneously for backspace.
Does somebody else notice this behaviour?
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Dave Mielke (2016/01/13 15:33 -0500):
> [quoted lines by Shérab on 2016/01/13 at 21:27 +0100]
>
> >I just installed the debian package for this version.
> >I use it with HumanWare's Brailliant BI 40.
> >With this new brltty it seems it is no longer possible to
s with ascii code and keycode.
> I want use name of key for example SPACE, D1, or other identifier.
Use a parameter to enterTtyMode specifying your braille driver and IIRC
you will get the keypresses you are looking for.
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install it or it if it is available on the
web, but you can find it in brltty's sources under
Documents/Manual-BrlAPI/English/BrlAPI.sgml
See also man brlapi_protocol
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Dear Daniel,
Many thanks for sharing this, it's great news.
Are you blind yourself? What do you think about Android's accessibility
as compared to iOS accessibility?
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more! Could
someone briefly explain what it can do? Is it a replacement for the
provided screen reader?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi,
Tayky (2016/05/02 10:36 +0200):
> Hello all :),
> I've read the man for brlapi but I have some difficults.
> It is possible please, a example code: juste for write a packtet and
> read packet.
See Programs/brlapi_client.c in brltty sourc
ement the protocol in C,
then you can at least re-use all the types and macros that are defined
there.
hth,
Shérab.
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al terminal.
One solution I can imagine to this problem would be to have a clipboard
running as an autonomous service, that would have absolutely nothing to
do with braille or with X being used etc. Does something like this
already exist?
Cheers,
Shérab.
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tidious because you then have to load this file into X's clipboard with
e.g. xclip I think.
Shérab.
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Pretty cool Mario, thanks a lot for sharing!
I tried the same thing with another little card called Linuxino but it
was too big to fit in the Active Star's compartment.
It's good to know you were more successful!
Best wishes,
Sherab.
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Dear all,
Just out of curiosity: has somebody here already tried to write iOS
apps? If so, any feedback regarding how you dealt with XCode, how you
learned Objective C or Swift, how you deal with Apple's API
documentations etc. would be warmly appreciated.
Cheers,
S
text editors/note takers.
No doubt. I did the same with Eurobraille's Iris which has a simple
Intel CPU, perhaps 256M of RAM and I could use emacs, LaTeX, ssh,
lynx...
Shérab.
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Did you try the brlapitest program that is in brltty's sources? It may
be interesting to see if that works...
Cheers,
Shérab.
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