Re: views-based RPZ

2024-08-23 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Hi Carlos. If you have enough RAM it should be possible to create multiple views, each with a zone (primary or secondary, up to you) that contains the RPZ data for that view and a response-policy that uses that zone. The limit on number of zones is per response-policy block. But if you're using se

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marco Moock
Am Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:28:22 -0400 schrieb David Farje : > The whole point of open source software is that you as a user get > software for free You get certain freedoms because of the license. This doesn't mean it needs to be provided for free. ISC also sells BIND9 together with a support contra

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2024-08-23 at 14:42 -0400, David Farje wrote: > That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software. https://biplane.com.au/blog/?p=375 -- ~~~ Karl Auer (ka...@biplane.com.au, he/him) http://www.biplane.co

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread David Farje
Why not? It clearly shows that arguing this 'free' argument is a bit narrow. Because the scenarios are completely different. By using open source software you enter a legal contract. No that is not the point of open source software. The point of open source software is that the code is available

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Hika van den Hoven
Hoi All, Everybody is free to act as he or she sees fit. However, do not expect to be treated beter then you treat others. The fact that this is free software is within the context of this discussion irrelevant. If you want to be treated as a human being, treat others as such. Be always polite! If

RE: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marc
> I get the point you're trying to make. I just don't think a volunteer > crosswalk and a car accident is an appropriate analogy for open source > software. Why not? It clearly shows that arguing this 'free' argument is a bit narrow. > The whole point of open source software is that you as a user

RE: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marc
> > That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software. > > So if some store owner gives your kid candy that previously fell on the floor, you are not complaining because it was for free ? -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from

RE: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marc
I don't think you got the point. Can it be you are working on 9.18? ;P Luckily legislation is different and your kid is being protected from such bad behaviour. If some volunteer is helping your kid cross the road and it gets hit, he is as liable as any other person (if he fucked up) So doing

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread David Farje
I get the point you're trying to make. I just don't think a volunteer crosswalk and a car accident is an appropriate analogy for open source software. The whole point of open source software is that you as a user get software for free and if something goes wrong you are free to collaborate to fix

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marcus Kool
I don't like or appreciate rants. Rantors are not all the same and so I do not have a universal rule how to treat them. In this instance, for me the product rant was not that aggressive that I would remove the user if I were list owner. I would remind the user that rants like this are not appre

views-based RPZ

2024-08-23 Thread Carlos Horowicz via bind-users
Hello List, an ISP has brought a case where several customers do not agree with our web interface portal that lets select different RPZ zones to be activated for a set of resolvers that are common to all customers. They even belong to different countries where some domains are banned. Given t

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread David Farje
My kid would know better than to take free candy. And if he did he would know there is a risk involved for which only he would be responsible. On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 3:12 PM Marc wrote: > > > > That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software. > > > > > > So if some store own

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread David Farje
Software problems make some people angry but they make me very happy. Some people are underpaid and work under tremendous pressure leading to anger. It's understandable. That being said. It's preposterous to complain about free software. On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:52 PM Tim Daneliuk wrote: > O

Reminder: Rules of this list

2024-08-23 Thread Ondřej Surý
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Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 8/23/24 09:19, Marcus Kool wrote: The user was angry and ranted about named 9.18.x.  He did not rant about any developer or any member of your team.  Removing a user from this list is IMHO not the best way to treat an issue. Marcus Yes, but tone matters. It seems that world is now ful

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Dennis Clarke via bind-users
On 8/23/24 11:55, Jim Pazarena wrote: I agree. Banning them because you disagree with what they say ? You have shares in facebook ? TikTok ? Federal Govt ? The value to ordinary users of this mail list has long since collapsed into a swirl of corporate silly human resources gibberish.

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Jim Pazarena
I agree. Banning them because you disagree with what they say ? You have shares in facebook ? TikTok ? Federal Govt ? On 2024-08-23 7:19 AM, Marcus Kool wrote: The user was angry and ranted about named 9.18.x.  He did not rant about any developer or any member of your team.  Removing a user fr

views-based RPZ

2024-08-23 Thread Carlos Horowicz via bind-users
Hello List, an ISP has brought a case where several customers do not agree with our web interface portal that lets select different RPZ zones to be activated for a set of resolvers that are common to all customers. They even belong to different countries where some domains are banned. Given

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marcus Kool
The user was angry and ranted about named 9.18.x.  He did not rant about any developer or any member of your team.  Removing a user from this list is IMHO not the best way to treat an issue. Marcus On 23/08/2024 13:31, Ondřej Surý wrote: I can understand your anger But I don’t. Let me be ab

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Ondřej Surý
> I can understand your anger But I don’t. Let me be absolutely clear. There’s nothing in the world that would allow you to treat me, my team and the other list members like this. And there’s nothing in the world that would justify such behavior. The user in question has been removed from the

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Petr Špaček
Let me add that an actionable bug report usually have all the information listed here: https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/blob/main/.gitlab/issue_templates/Bug.md HTH next time. Petr Špaček Internet Systems Consortium On 23. 08. 24 14:04, Ondřej Surý wrote: We welcome any bug repor

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Marco Moock
Am 23.08.2024 um 21:57:47 Uhr schrieb Edwardo Garcia: > I've just updated 9.18 again, as recent update, and ever since using > this 9.18 mess the load has been horrendous never ever have I > experiemnce such a clusterfcsk of a release I can understand your anger, but the first thing to notice is

Re: 9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Ondřej Surý
We welcome any bug reports, but such language is not welcome here. The mailing list is not meant for insulting developers. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. >

9.18 horrendous

2024-08-23 Thread Edwardo Garcia
I am going to vent, I have bitten my tongue for far too long. I've just updated 9.18 again, as recent update, and ever since using this 9.18 mess the load has been horrendous never ever have I experiemnce such a clusterfcsk of a release 14 minutes after restart bind load is greater than 8 and sti