RE: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-28 Thread Scot Robnett
s for perl Image::Magick ... Teddy, Teddy's Center: http://teddy.fcc.ro/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Scot Robnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sun

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-28 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Octavian, In some respects I believe you are correct. Here are my 2cents... 1) It is really not good to enable mod_perl by default. Doing so would dramatically increase the size of the Apache binary. Enabling all scripts to run through Apache::Registry would break half the scripts that exist o

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-28 Thread Octavian Rasnita
e, MySQL and possibly other tools for programmers, because most programmers that test their programs locally need them. ... Teddy, Teddy's Center: http://teddy.fcc.ro/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Todd W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PRO

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread Todd W.
"Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I think the reason why PHP is used more and more much than Perl is that for > CGI related programs it is much simpler to use than perl. Octavian , you haven't _proved_ that PHP is used more than perl. > For example

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread drieux
On Sunday, Jul 27, 2003, at 13:25 US/Pacific, Octavian Rasnita wrote: [..] It is not very easy to install support for SSL, or the library for creating images for perl, while for PHP is much easier. [..] let's think about this for a moment - do you know which SSL layer you are working with in PHP a

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread Octavian Rasnita
"Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: PHP vs Perl I think there are a couple of myths that need to be cleared up from that post. First, the idea that PDF manipulation and secure payment modules "don&#x

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread drieux
On Sunday, Jul 27, 2003, at 12:57 US/Pacific, Jon Hogue wrote: [..] With CGI::FormBuilder, I couldn't imagine CGI being any easier... cf: cf: Oh SURE, now you advocate that for those who read comments

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread Jon Hogue
y complicated. Teddy, Teddy's Center: http://teddy.fcc.ro/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "zentara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: Re: PHP vs Perl On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:38:08 +0200,

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread drieux
On Sunday, Jul 27, 2003, at 09:55 US/Pacific, Octavian Rasnita wrote: [..] I know that PHP is much more limited even for CGI programs than perl, but for simple tasks it is much better. And... most CGI programs are not extremly complicated. [..] That really is the crux of the problem. How 'complex

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread Octavian Rasnita
ddy's Center: http://teddy.fcc.ro/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "zentara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: Re: PHP vs Perl On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:38:08 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Octavi

RE: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread Scot Robnett
the language that makes most of my projects work is Perl. -Original Message- From: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PHP vs Perl I think the reason why PHP is used more and more much than Perl is tha

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-27 Thread zentara
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:38:08 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Octavian Rasnita) wrote: >I think the reason why PHP is used more and more much than Perl is that for >CGI related programs it is much simpler to use than perl. I don't mess around with php, but I do follow the discussions of it's merits vs.

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-26 Thread drieux
volks, p0: let's chill a bit and think about the 'well reasoned' portions of the kvetch so far. { the alternative is the I WILL let my Pixies Out and that will not be a pretty sight... } Prefatory Kvetch: I think one of the ultimate problems is that unlike the benchmarking that we can do inside

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
- From: "Wiggins d'Anconia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Re: PHP vs Perl Octavian Rasnita wrote: > I think the reason why PHP is used more and more much than Perl is that for > CGI related programs it i

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-26 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
Octavian Rasnita wrote: I think the reason why PHP is used more and more much than Perl is that for CGI related programs it is much simpler to use than perl. For example it has a set of libraries for the most used functions in a CGI program, for example SSL support, a module for reading and creati

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
m: "Todd W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: Re: PHP vs Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > One of the coolest answers is at: > > > >http://us2.php.net/

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-24 Thread Todd W.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > One of the coolest answers is at: > > > >http://us2.php.net/manual/en/faq.languages.php#faq.languages.perl > > > > where it notes that Perl is a complicated language that comes from > > a time before the web whereas PHP was

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-23 Thread drieux
On Wednesday, Jul 23, 2003, at 07:59 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] I would tend to disagree with why they "changed" cults, and argue that it wasn't that one was easier to use to code it up, but more that their situation had changed. [..] How about the compromise position, coders chan

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-23 Thread wiggins
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:59:29 -0700, drieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, Jul 22, 2003, at 20:10 US/Pacific, Wiggins d'Anconia wrote: > > Octavian Rasnita wrote: > [..] > >> Of course, he was talking about CGI programming, because I kn

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-23 Thread drieux
On Tuesday, Jul 22, 2003, at 20:10 US/Pacific, Wiggins d'Anconia wrote: Octavian Rasnita wrote: [..] Of course, he was talking about CGI programming, because I know that Perl can do much more than CGI programming like PHP. As much as we jest at your expense I suppose a "real" answer should be give

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-22 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
Octavian Rasnita wrote: Hi all, Talking about PHP, someone asked me to tell him why is PHP better and why it is used more than Perl. I don't know what to tell him because I don't know PHP, but I've seen that it is used more and more and I guess that there are more PHP scripts than Perl scripts now

Re: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-22 Thread drieux
[..] Talking about PHP, someone asked me to tell him why is PHP better and why it is used more than Perl. [..] This might be a good time to point people towards the MVC - Model, View, Controller approach for doing software development. { just google search on Model, View, Controller for fun } W

RE: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-22 Thread Scot Robnett
Oh my lord, you didn't really start a "which language is better" thread, did you? Time to set up another e-mail filter over here...have you no sense of decency, man? heh heh - Scot Robnett inSite Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:

RE: PHP vs Perl

2003-07-22 Thread wiggins
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:39:30 +0300, "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Talking about PHP, someone asked me to tell him why is PHP better and why it > is used more than Perl. > I don't know what to tell him because I don't