Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:17:33AM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > | > | This patch makes autoconf prefer configure.gnu over configure when > | configuring subdirectories; this is usefull if these subdirectories also > | contain packages not using autoconf. > | > | This patch originates from the G

Moving to Subversions

2000-09-11 Thread Richard Stallman
Back in December we agreed to move Autoconf to subversions, but it was delayed, and seems not to have happened yet. Can we move it now?

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread Richard Stallman
> We will stay with the --foo syntax for configure options. We should > not change the configure syntax incompatibly unless there is a > pressing need for a change. Please reconsider. There is a pressing need for a change. People currently have to use work-arounds such as:

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
| Let me take the example of a2ps. a2ps uses a configuration file which | is installed in syscondir. To find it the path is hard coded in a2ps, | and a natural means to do that would be | | AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED([A2PS_CONFIG_FILE], ["$sysconfdir/a2ps.cfg"]) | | The natural way to

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Richard" == Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Even a compatible change such as requiring all programs to Richard> support the --foodir or --dir-foo syntax would be a hassle Richard> for some programmers (those who don't use Autoconf), and the Richard> change can take ye

Re: AC_LIBOBJ

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
| | AC_CONFIG_COMMANDS_PRE( | [LTLIBOBJS=`echo "X$LIBOBJS" | \ | sed "s/^X//;s/\\.$ac_objext /.lo /g;s/\\.$ac_objext\$/.lo/" | AC_SUBST(LTLIBOBJS)]) | Thanks Gary. Personally I'm still very unhappy with \\.$ac_objext. After all, someone might still have a .o

Re: Blind fix for wierd test ordering in configure

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Gary" == Gary V Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gary> In libtool.m4 in CVS HEAD, without this patch, the tests for Gary> AC_EXEEXT and a couple of others are inserted at the beginning Gary> of the generated configure script. What version of Autoconf? 2.13 has a nasty bug in AC_REQU

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
| > We will stay with the --foo syntax for configure options. We should | > not change the configure syntax incompatibly unless there is a | > pressing need for a change. | | Please reconsider. There is a pressing need for a change. People | currently have to use work-arou

Re: Moving to Subversions

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Richard" == Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Back in December we agreed to move Autoconf to subversions, Richard> but it was delayed, and seems not to have happened yet. Can Richard> we move it now? It's been there for months! http://subversions.gnu.org/cgi-

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread lars brinkhoff
Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > please, tell me why you want that there are two different means to say > the same thing? Why do you want both > > ./configure --prefix=/foo > make > > and > > ./configure > make prefix=/foo > > ? > > If the Makefile

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
| Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > please, tell me why you want that there are two different means to say | > the same thing? Why do you want both | > | > ./configure --prefix=/foo | > make | > | > and | > | > ./configure | > make prefix=/foo | >

Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Thomas" == Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:17:33AM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: >> | | This patch makes autoconf prefer configure.gnu over configure >> when | configuring subdirectories; this is usefull if these >> subdirectories also | contain p

Re: HTML format documentation (presetting variables)

2000-09-11 Thread Guido Draheim
Richard Stallman wrote: > > The most > important example is when `configure' is re-run (which is not that > uncommon; re-running `./config.status --recheck' when configure.in > changes is becoming more and more common): any such variables set in > the command line are lost i

Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:22:24PM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > > "Thomas" == Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thomas> On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:17:33AM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > >> | | This patch makes autoconf prefer configure.gnu over configure > >> when | configuring su

Re: HTML format documentation (presetting variables)

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Guido" == Guido Draheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guido> As the discussion does now lead a bit elsewhere, what about Guido> second-level options, settable via VAR=VAL (or sth. alike)? Guido> There was the discussion that for cross-compiling, people do Guido> often have the needs to pres

Re: [autoconf-patches] _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread RĂ¼diger Kuhlmann
Hi! >--[Akim Demaille]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | This patch makes autoconf prefer configure.gnu over configure when > | configuring subdirectories; this is usefull if these subdirectories also > | contain packages not using autoconf. > I don't understand this `configure.gnu' stuff. Why is not

Re: HTML format documentation (presetting variables)

2000-09-11 Thread Guido Draheim
Akim Demaille wrote: > See AC_ARG_VAR. taken. ... then again, AC_CACHE_CHECK does not use it wouldn't that be okay? Just again, what about a second-level options that go in another helpscreen, and, well, in that respect, I do support your position to the point that the current helpscreen is al

Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Earnie Boyd
--- Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:22:24PM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > > > "Thomas" == Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Thomas> On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:17:33AM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > > >> | | This patch makes autoconf prefer

Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Earnie Boyd wrote: > Uhm, IIRC Perl's use of configure was/is to make autoconf happy, and Configure > was the actual script from a different configuration package, IIRC, Metaconf. also known as 'dist', it's a year or two older than autoconf, was used in elm and a number of o

Re: HTML format documentation (presetting variables)

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Guido" == Guido Draheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guido> Akim Demaille wrote: >> See AC_ARG_VAR. Guido> taken. ... then again, AC_CACHE_CHECK does not use Guido> it I don't understand what you mean. I agree some high level macros such as AC_CHECK_PROGS should document their first

Re: HTML format documentation

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Robbins
On 11 Sep 2000, Akim Demaille wrote: > > | Let me take the example of a2ps. a2ps uses a configuration file which > | is installed in syscondir. To find it the path is hard coded in a2ps, > | and a natural means to do that would be > | > | AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED([A2PS_CONFIG_FILE],

Re: CVS autoconf is broken - one month patch reminder

2000-09-11 Thread John David Anglin
> > > John, thanks for the patch. Don't hesitate to send its siblings (that > > of autoupdate, autoreconf, autoscan, autoheader and ifnames :) :) :) > > Here is a patch for the siblings. I also reverted the two `|| exit' > commands in autoconf.sh to `|| { (exit 1); exit; }' because I had one >

Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas E Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also known as 'dist', it's a year or two older than autoconf, was used > in elm and a number of other packages whose configure scripts were > written around 10 years ago. > (autoconf is easier to read and doesn't require perl, but its builtin > tests

What compiler was it?

2000-09-11 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Ian! You made the following change in Autoconf: Thu May 28 18:37:36 1998 Ian Lance Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (AC_TRY_CPP): Remove lines from stderr which contain only the name of the file. Do you remember what compiler produced such lines? I'm especially interested whe

Re: Blind fix for wierd test ordering in configure

2000-09-11 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:47:42AM +0200, Akim Demaille wrote: > > "Gary" == Gary V Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Gary> In libtool.m4 in CVS HEAD, without this patch, the tests for > Gary> AC_EXEEXT and a couple of others are inserted at the beginning > Gary> of the generated config

Re: Blind fix for wierd test ordering in configure

2000-09-11 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Sep 11, 2000, "Gary V. Vaughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't actually see the point of making AC_PROG_LIBTOOL require > _AC_PROG_LIBTOOL, so I figured I must be missing something... The point is to avoid duplicate expansion of AC_PROG_LIBTOOL. AC_REQUIRE was the simplest way to accom

Re: Automake needs --localdir?

2000-09-11 Thread Earnie Boyd
--- "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:18:59AM -0700, Earnie Boyd wrote: > : --- "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > : > I've started using AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(aux) and stow away files into aux/. > : > : PORTABILITY Issue: aux should not be used as a direct

Automake needs --localdir?

2000-09-11 Thread Lars J. Aas
I've started using AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(aux) and stow away files into aux/. I've also tried to stow aclocal.m4 into that directory, which works fine with "aclocal --output=aux/aclocal.m4", and using "-l | --localdir" options for autoheader and autoconf. What is missing is the -l option for automake,

Re: Automake needs --localdir?

2000-09-11 Thread Earnie Boyd
--- "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've started using AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(aux) and stow away files into aux/. PORTABILITY Issue: aux should not be used as a directory, filename or filename part (i.e. aux, aux.foo or foo.aux) as it is treated as a device by DOS and WIN32. If the directo

Re: Automake needs --localdir?

2000-09-11 Thread Lars J. Aas
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:18:59AM -0700, Earnie Boyd wrote: : --- "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > I've started using AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(aux) and stow away files into aux/. : : PORTABILITY Issue: aux should not be used as a directory, filename or filename : part (i.e. aux, aux.foo or

Re: Automake needs --localdir?

2000-09-11 Thread Lars J. Aas
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:18:59AM -0700, Earnie Boyd wrote: : --- "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > I've started using AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR(aux) and stow away files into aux/. : : PORTABILITY Issue: aux should not be used as a directory, filename or filename : part (i.e. aux, aux.foo or

Re: _AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS: check for configure.gnu as well [Resend]

2000-09-11 Thread Akim Demaille
| Hi! | | This patch makes autoconf prefer configure.gnu over configure when | configuring subdirectories; this is usefull if these subdirectories also | contain packages not using autoconf. | | This patch originates from the GeekGadgets project | (http://www.ninemoons.com/GG/). I don't unders