On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 12:31, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> *sigh*
>
> CFJ: "Alexis is a player."
>
Gratuitous: I agree with twg's arguments.
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 16:13, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > Would anyone complain/object if I ratified a "false" Herald's Report
> > that claims the Notices of Honor r
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 18:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> > big chang
On Tue., Jan. 7, 2020, 23:34 Aris Merchant via agora-discussion, <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 8280 Murphy, Jason Cobb 3.0 Resolve the troubles v1.1
>
AGAINST
> 8281 Gaelan 1.0 Nothing to see here, Rule 1030 v2
>
AGAINST
> 8282 Falsifian
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 14:51, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > I’m intrigued by the idea. I’m a little concerned that it’s TOO
> vague—are these rulings CFJ-like (a mean
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 16:07, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Neither your votes, nor the promotor report, were to the public forum.
>
> Additionally, I ask that you reconsider your vote on 8281. I don’t have a
> force-through scam up my sleeve, and I
Well, the current contracts rules are very broken. But that's ok! :P
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 16:21, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> TBH, there's no real reason to disallow 1-member contracts. It doesn't
> make sense under real world contract law, but A
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:25, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I suppose. I was considering keeping them to try to bribe people, but
> since they're pretty useless, that would be pointless. I perform the
> following action 18 times: { If I have more than 1000
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 14:26, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/11/2020 10:53 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:25, Jason Cobb wrote:
> >
> >> I suppose. I was considering keeping them to try to bribe people, but
> >> since
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 21:30, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:26 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/2020 10:53 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:25, Jason Cobb wrote:
> >
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 14:38, Kerim Aydin via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> I recuse omd from CFJ 3783 (I know you put forward some preliminary
> thoughts on the case omd, which is why I waited a bit, but it's been a
> long time on this case now).
>
> I assign CFJ 3783
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 01:07, James Cook wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 06:05, James Cook wrote:
> > However, the use of the word "it" in the text "but already owned it"
> > in R2602 indicates to me that the text of the rule is written with the
> > point of view that there's only one of each ri
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 01:25, James Cook wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 06:13, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 01:07, James Cook wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 06:05, James Cook wrote:
> >> > However, the use of the word "it" in the text "but already owned it"
> >> > in
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 11:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> Like with [Proposal], please put/edit [CFJ] into subject lines
> when you call a CFJ, if you think about it :).
>
I can appreciate the use of this, but changing subject lines always leaves
me
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 18:12, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > Notice of Honour:
> > -1 Karma to Jason Cobb for calling a CFJ on eir own scam and presenting
> no
> > arguments about the most critical aspects of eir case.
> > +1 Karma to omd for the detailed
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 19:05, Aris Merchant via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-official
> wrote:
> >
> > The below CFJ is 3792. I assign it to G.
> >
> > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3792
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 00:38, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> This doesn’t really do all that much—default voting strength is 3 and max
> is 5, so it’s a little under a double vote. Maybe we need to increase the
> range of allowed voting strengths?
>
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 10:35, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 1/13/20 5:58 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> > I agree that it would be good to have some way of giving officers extra
> > votes on relevant proposals - this was also th
Here's some outline I was thinking to move us towards a more pragmatic
model of law:
Any question that arises as part of a dispute can be categorized into one
of the following:
- Question of fact, divided into:
- Questions of natural fact, being facts which are true without reference
to the rul
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 17:10, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
> > The only difference is the expectation that the officer, before
> publishing
> > the report, verify that no messages have been sent that would alter the
> > contents o
There's been some comments lately on the degree of difficulty of some
offices, notably Treasuror, and it's definitely of note that twg proposed
to maintain the Glitter rewards in eir report.
But it strikes me as odd that the rewards are largely the province of
individual players, since it puts a l
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 12:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 1/12/2020 1:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > === CFJ 3792
> ===
> >
> > The above-quoted message contained a valid Promotor's we
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 12:36, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> The only thing I'm a little concerned about is glitter. Rewards for
> proposals, CFJs, reports and theses are all clearly associated with one
> officer when they are awarded, but glitte
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Here's a proto...
>
> I warrant that I did not intentionally include loopholes in any of the
> proto-proposals I supplied in the referenced message. (Ribbons are
> Serious Busi
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 13:27, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
> > The critical distinction, then, is that the
> obligation
> > to publish a report is not an obligation to publish a document (much
> less a
> > publ
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 13:26, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
> > omd's fix proposal would make it so that the amount of the award is
> > platonic, given when the player invokes the triggering phrase
> > (presumably in response to ou
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 12:21, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 1/16/20 8:01 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 1/16/20 12:55 AM, James Cook via agora-official wrote:
> >> The January zombie auction has ended.
> >>
> >> On 2020-01-07 at 07:03 U
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 19:38, AIS523--- via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 15:05 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Now here we are a third time. Whatever we can say about CFJ 3694,
> > the judgement is suitably unintuitive suc
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 21:39, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 19:38, AIS523--- via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 15:05 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>> > Now here we are a third time. Whatever we can say ab
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 21:45, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I think I remember hearing that the concept of regulated actions was
> created because a judge ruled the other way - the Rules say that someone
> "CAN" do it (even if not providing a method),
On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 21:58, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Full disclosure, I think the bug that this fixes could be used for a
> scam attempt similar to the 18K scam. Specifically, I believe a person
> could find an office that missed a report a whil
On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 22:17, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Here's an excerpt from R2160:
>
> > 1. the rules require the holder of that office, by virtue of
> > holding that office, to perform the action (this requirement is
> >
Proposal: Zombie voting package (AI=3)
{{{
Amend Rule 683 (Voting on Agoran Decisions) by appending the following
paragraph:
{{
The above notwithstanding, at the end of the voting period for an Agoran
decision, prior to the evaluation of conditionals, each entity who has
never submitted a valid bal
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 01:01, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:27 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I intend, without objection, to make the following cleanings (in
> numerical
>
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 17:16, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 1/18/20 11:07 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Ah, I see where we were thinking differently. Yes, I think your idea
> works
> > then, so long as i
The best way is to look at past examples.
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 17:43, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> What exactly are the expectations for theses? It's not very well
> spelled out in the relevant rule (probably something we should fix).
> I'm work
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 10:40, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Amend Rule 217, "Interpreting the Rules", by inserting "authorial
> intent," after "past judgements,".
>
Quite opposed; this would require judges to read mailing lists to determine
int
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Here's some outline I was thinking to move us towards a more pragmatic
> model of law:
>
Any opinions? Buehler?
Agora
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 18:52, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> My gut feeling is that this is a bit overcomplicated. There are too
> many categories. Additionally, I dislike this sort of pragmatization.
> The generally platonic model has served Agora w
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/19/2020 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > On 1/19/2020 1:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> +7 G. <= SHOGUN
> >> +6 Aris
> >
> > I pledge to equalize these next week, if no one doe
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 22:13, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I was about to re-reply to say, I don't mind expanding the scope of J.D. at
> all! just that it might warrant some discussion first and it was worth
> mentioning the original intent.
>
I wo
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 06:58, D. Margaux via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 9:27 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > It's a new thing from some universities to offer gender neutral degree
> > t
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 21:03, James Cook via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 21:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> wrote:
> > However, it also reads (unintentionally?) as a limit. If the
> parenthetical
> > is read like this: "CAN once (until e e
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 11:20, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/23/2020 7:49 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
> > Proposal: A Degree of Inefficiency (AI=3)
> > {{{
> > Amend Rule 2595 (Performing a Dependent Action) by inserting ", and did
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 12:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Sorry, I mis-typed, but it doesn't change it IMO. The question "did I
> publish
> and then subsequently withdraw an announcement of intent" becomes true
> when I
> do it once, and remains tr
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 12:24, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Another thought experiment:
> 1. intent
> 2. intent again
> 3. action that's very direct and explicit in citing intent #1 (e.g.
> "having
> posted intent in the quoted message (#1), I do X
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 15:11, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Why would we want this? Our system is explicitly designed to make sure
> that people can't announce intent to do something with support or with
> Agoran consent, and then single-handedly ta
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 14:48, Kerim Aydin via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> The below CFJ is 3794. I assign it to Alexis.
>
> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3794
Non-CoE: This appears to be missing the arguments from
https://www.mail-archive
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 11:29, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I wrote:
> > I intend, with 2 days' notice, to temporarily deputise for the ADoP to
> > end the uncontested election for Treasuror, thereby installing myself.
>
> Having given notice, I do
On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 13:41, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 1/20/2020 1:30 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> > ...nd, maybe, if it please m'lud, to request that at least the
> > degree intent, if not also the separate title, b
I suggest the following annotations based on CFJ 3783:
For rule 2143: "It is not possible to win an election after it has ended."
For rule 2602, if all amendment proposals fail: "A player cannot use this
rule to earn coins for a ribbon after e has earned another ribbon,
regardless of the latter's
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 15:36, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2020 12:23 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> > if anyone has any other arguments or opinions between A.N. and B.N., I
> > would appreciate hear
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:11, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> When we last had a specific criteria (a loong time ago) it looked like this
> (from 2003):
>
> The Degree of Associate of Nomic requires a Thesis of at least
> 150 words. A Candi
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 16:42, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:11, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> When we last had a specific criteria (a loong time ago) it looked like
>> this
>> (from 2003):
>>
>> The Degree of Associate of
This proto marks the beginning of my quests for reform in two large
areas of the game, administrative discretion and ratification, as
discussed previously. I may choose to write up a plan at some point
and submit it as a thesis, but I may just fly by the seat of my pants.
Proposal: Administrative
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 21:03, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
> > Blatant attempt to sneak something Gaelan missed: I CFJ on "Gaelan
> > CAN, by announcement, award emself the patent title of 'The
> > Powerless'.", requesting linked
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 23:38, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> My Agoran name shall be now Gaela+n, where “a+” represents the letter a
> repeated n times, where n is one more than the maximum number that would
> fit in whatever table the name is includ
On Sun., Jan. 26, 2020, 07:16 Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business, <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I wrote:
> > === CFJ 3793
> ===
> >
> > Rance’s master switch is set to Gaelan.
> >
> >
> ===
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 12:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:24 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-official
> wrote:
> > NOW KNOW YOU that we, by the Powers granted to us under Winning the
> > Game, being the two thousand and forty-fourth Rule of Agora, do hereby
> >
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 15:47, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/28/20 2:14 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:03 AM omd via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I suppose I could mirror the archives on GitHub, which would be less
> >> idiosy
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 17:48, omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 7:29 AM Matthew Berlin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > A custom Agora blockchain for the ruleset and BUS actions? I'd
> > certainly be up for running a node...and could hel
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 18:26, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> omd wrote:
> > However, I vaguely remember having proposed this in the past, and
> > someone objecting to it. But I can't find the thread; searching for
> > "scrapers", only this thread
H. Distributor,
Is it intentional that the Reply-To headers for messages include the
original author? I always take them out.
Alexis
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 18:47, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Alexis wrote:
> > > Is it intentional that the Reply-To headers for messages include the
> > > original author? I always take them out.
> >
> > To my knowledge, this isn't
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 12:25, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Aris wrote:
> > For the record, I strongly disagree. I think Spivak is part of Agoran
> > culture at this point, like the “or” suffixes at the end of offices. It’s
> > part of what make
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 15:22, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Oh, light, no. Last time we tried to store money as accounts it was an
> infernal mess. It lead to a never ending series of bugs and
> counterintuitive results.
>
> For the implementation,
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:19, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Regardless, there are simple ways to implement Warrigal's proposal on
> top of assets, and I'm simply saying that I'd prefer that we use those
> instead. For allowing negative balances, for
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 18:03, Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: Deputisation timeliness
>
> AI: 3
>
> Author: Jason Cobb
>
> Co-authors: Alexis
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 2160 to read, in whole:
>
> {
>
> A player acting a
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 17:35, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> What about different mechanisms? I think we have rules where the officer
> CAN do it by announcement, but everyone else needs CONSENT.
>
> Gaelan
>
Sounds like a fun CFJ. ;)
-Alexis
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 20:50, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 29, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > Gaelan wrote:
> >> NOTARY'S REPORT OF JANUARY 29 2020
> >
> > Ooh, j
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 19:21, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> A bit messy, no? Most deferences in rules actually do something
> significant; if it doesn't, it's likely to make people go "why is that
> in there?"
>
> -Aris
>
It's also future-proofing;
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 20:45, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Jason wrote:
> > On 1/28/20 10:26 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> >
> > > //
> > > ID: 8305
> > > Title: Keepi
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 14:17, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Having achieved a full set of 16 Ribbons, including the new Emerald
> Ribbon, I Raise a Banner, causing me to win the game.
>
> -twg
>
Given that:
a) I'm genuinely uncertain about the stat
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 21:46, omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business
> wrote:
> > Enact a new power-1 rule entitled "Default Mechanisms" reading as
> follows:
>
> I feel like this makes more sense in a hi
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 22:23, omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 5:52 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business
> wrote:
> > [Note that the existing "more than one option" text is basically
> > tautologically true and practically useless anyway. P
On Wed., Jan. 29, 2020, 23:35 Luke Tyler via agora-discussion, <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > Amend Rule 2532 (Zombies) by:
> > - appending "A player CAN, without 3 objections, flip eir own master
> switch
> > to any other player. Other players SHOULD NOT object unless they believ
On Thu., Jan. 30, 2020, 00:47 Aris Merchant via agora-discussion, <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> If you’re going to do a revision, I’d appreciate it if you made the zombie
> trust apply to all assets.
>
> -Aris
>
The only other assets are blots which, in my opinion, ought to be exclu
On Sun., Jan. 26, 2020, 15:51 Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business, <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
> > I think this needs to be addressed properly in the judgment. I intend,
> with
> > 2 support, to group-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 3793.
> >
> > I will likely have mor
On Thu., Jan. 30, 2020, 06:08 AIS523--- via agora-discussion, <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 17:25 +, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-
> discussion wrote:
> > Aris wrote:
> > > For the record, I strongly disagree. I think Spivak is part of Agoran
> > > culture at
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 10:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Proto: "Pragmatic decisions", AI-3
>
> Amend R208 by replacing:
> 4. It specifies the outcome, as described elsewhere, and, if there
> was more than one valid option, provides a tally of the voters'
>
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 12:10, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Unless I'm misreading your suggestion, wouldn't this leave us open to saying
> weeks/months/years later, if a deep error turns up, "since that result was
> posted incorrectly, we've been playing under the wrong rules for a whi
Ugh, so, I just realized with G.'s recent point about the tally of
votes in Agoran decisions possibly being self-ratifying, that
ratifying the outcome of a decision could have all sorts of
backwards-propagating effects and, in particular, possibly prevents
self-ratification of incorrect outcomes al
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 13:18, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> }
> }}}
>
> -Alexis
One missing paragraph:
{
Establish a legal fiction that, for each purported resolution of an
Agoran decision that would have self-ratified, but whose
self-ratification failed only bec
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 14:00, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Please cut the natural fact/legal fact distinction. It isn't helping
> anything, and is just confusing and unnecessary complexity.
Hm, I'm not entirely sure it is, because this wording makes it very
clear that legal fiction
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 20:11, omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > A legal fiction must be defined with respect to a specific point in
> > time, or to a specific period of time, which CANNOT be in, or extend
> > into, the future beyond its creation.
>
> By analogy
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 23:41, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > 8315* Alexis 3.0 Clearer Resolutions
>
> ENDORSE Alexis, because I don’t have any idea what’s going on with this
> mess and it seems like e does
>
I can go back to a
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 23:48, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Wait, I’m curious about the legal basis for this conditional intent—I’ve
> never seen something like it before. I guess there’s an argument to be made
> that the “announcement of intent” re
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 15:44, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 1/31/20 3:42 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > For the record, I just sent the case assignment message, it tripped my
> > spam filter on the return so dunno if enough people w
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 18:17, Aris Merchant via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > I support. For those who don’t understand the reference, see [1][2] (at
> > least I think the first one is part of it; I know the second is).
> >
> > [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 22:15, omd via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > 8316* Alexis 3.0 Zombie voting package
> PRESENT; the fact that the new Rule 683 clause forces default votes to
> be "valid" means that they could be submitted even by ineligible
>
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 00:10, James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Are we sure the first attempt at resolving the decisions didn't
> succeed? I've lost track.
>
> In case we're a the situation like Alexis outlined, where the first
> succeeds platonically and this one succeeds via self-ratificat
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 19:22, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
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> On 2/1/20 7:20 PM, James Cook wrote:
> > I submit a proposal as follows:
> >
> > Title: Unrepetition
> > AI: 3
> > Chamber: Efficiency
>
>
> Perhaps the H. Promotor should order this first in the batch so that the
> other prop
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:55, James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 18:09, James Cook wrote:
> > Are we just going to let a steady stream of sufficiently dedicated
> > players claim their standard victories? I say we raise the bar a
> > little.
>
> By the way, I don't me
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 23:42, Gaelan Steele via agora-business
wrote:
> >> 8317e Alexis 2.0 Zombie trade
> >
> > FOR, although I note that there’s a minor scam: you can prevent a zombie
> > from expiring by putrefying it after it’s already been putrified to
> > increase its
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 11:24, James Cook wrote:
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> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 21:46, Alexis Hunt via agora-business
> wrote:
> > 3. Replacing "The action is to be performed with N Agoran consent, and
> > the number
> > of Supporters of the intent is less than or equal to N times the number of
> > Ob
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 22:06, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On 2/6/20 7:47 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
> > "I intend, with Agoran consent, to enact the following Editorial
> > Guidelines:"
> >
> > does not seem like multiple separate intents.
>
>
> Whoops, you're right.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 23:46, Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
>
> [Sorry if this came out a bit confusing or has errors. I'm a bit
> rushed and I don't have time to edit ATM.]
I'm disappointed that you didn't go for PROBABLY instead.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:31, James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I'll try to start by covering the period I've summarized, but consider
> going to monthly-ish after that. -ish because it would be nice to line
> it up with weeks.
>
> Payment would be nice.
>
> We could add an office. I think i
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 19:41, omd via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in
> > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification
> > failing due
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 12:17, James Cook via agora-business
wrote:
>
> This is an unofficial report on the ongoing zombie auction. All times UTC.
>
> Note: it is not clear that zombie auctions work. It is possible the
> winners will not receive their lots but will still be required to pay.
> The ju
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