On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 19:41, omd via agora-discussion <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a more > > radical change and makes the use of ratification less concise, but in > > my opinion the reward is that it greatly increases simplicity and > > certainty in what the effect of ratification actually is. > > Proto-proto: Overturn CFJ 3337 > > [Treat the scope of ratification the way I always assumed it should be > treated... including when I wrote the current wording of Rule 1551, > back in 2010. (Previously, Rule 1551 had stated that "the gamestate > is minimally modified so that the ratified document was completely > true and accurate at the time it was published; I added the "what it > would be" clause.) > > I believe this is orthogonal to your counter-proto; it could go > together with it, or it could serve as a basis for a more conservative > fix. For what it's worth, if you *don't* want these semantics, I > think you should have Rule 1551 say so more explicitly; in particular, > you should clarify the meaning of "what it would be".] > > Create a new Power-3 Rule, titled "Gamestate": > > The gamestate of Agora consists of the Rules, together with all > other entities and properties defined by the Rules. It does not > include a mutable record of its own history: when the Rules > refer to past game states or events, they refer to the actual > past. Nor does it include a list of 'legal fictions', or false > statements about external reality to be treated as true for game > purposes. A rule may state or imply that 'X is treated as if it > were Y', but this is considered an attempt to redefine X, > subject to the usual standards for definitions.
I fully support this and would like to see it in next week's distribution. It would help clear up one of the issues that I was having with my proto as well. -Alexis
