On Thu., Jan. 30, 2020, 06:08 AIS523--- via agora-discussion, <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 17:25 +0000, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-
> discussion wrote:
> > Aris wrote:
> > > For the record, I strongly disagree. I think Spivak is part of Agoran
> > > culture at this point, like the “or” suffixes at the end of offices.
> It’s
> > > part of what makes Agora different and unique. In short, it’s a
> dialectal
> > > variation, and I think Agora having its own dialect, not just its own
> > > terminology, is pretty awesome.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Tbh I think Falsifian expressed it well
> > when e talked about seeing the ruleset as some sort of ancient relic -
> > the things like "-or" suffixes, Spivak pronouns, CAN/SHOULD/MUST, "in a
> > timely fashion", etc. are all pieces of history reflecting how the game
> > came to be the way it is. Heck, even a very small amount of the language
> > from the prototypical Nomic is still in the current ruleset!
>
> I'm also in favour of retaining Spivak (although I'm not sure how much
> weight my opinion should have when I'm not actually playing).
>
> I should note, though, that "in a timely fashion" is a relatively new
> phrasing. For a long time, the standard phrasing was "as soon as
> possible" (which was nonetheless defined to mean "within seven days"),
> which was perhaps even more quirkily Agoran, but very confusing to new
> players (as holding out the actions in question until the end of the
> seven-day window was accepted and often done intentionally).
>
> --
> ais523
>

My recollection is that it was four when I joined, changed to seven when
the game started slowing down, and then the terminology was changed when it
was decided that seven days was really not as soon as possible.

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