On Thu., Jan. 30, 2020, 06:08 AIS523--- via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 17:25 +0000, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora- > discussion wrote: > > Aris wrote: > > > For the record, I strongly disagree. I think Spivak is part of Agoran > > > culture at this point, like the “or” suffixes at the end of offices. > It’s > > > part of what makes Agora different and unique. In short, it’s a > dialectal > > > variation, and I think Agora having its own dialect, not just its own > > > terminology, is pretty awesome. > > > > Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Tbh I think Falsifian expressed it well > > when e talked about seeing the ruleset as some sort of ancient relic - > > the things like "-or" suffixes, Spivak pronouns, CAN/SHOULD/MUST, "in a > > timely fashion", etc. are all pieces of history reflecting how the game > > came to be the way it is. Heck, even a very small amount of the language > > from the prototypical Nomic is still in the current ruleset! > > I'm also in favour of retaining Spivak (although I'm not sure how much > weight my opinion should have when I'm not actually playing). > > I should note, though, that "in a timely fashion" is a relatively new > phrasing. For a long time, the standard phrasing was "as soon as > possible" (which was nonetheless defined to mean "within seven days"), > which was perhaps even more quirkily Agoran, but very confusing to new > players (as holding out the actions in question until the end of the > seven-day window was accepted and often done intentionally). > > -- > ais523 > My recollection is that it was four when I joined, changed to seven when the game started slowing down, and then the terminology was changed when it was decided that seven days was really not as soon as possible. >