Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-18 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 10:42 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The II of a proposal should serve as a flag to get people to look at it; > > I can certainly imagine that some players won't have time to look at all > > the proposals,

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The II of a proposal should serve as a flag to get people to look at it; > I can certainly imagine that some players won't have time to look at all > the proposals, in which case they should look at those with the highest > II.

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-18 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why should II matter at all? > > > > It's an objective acknowledgment of the significance of the proposed > > changes. IIRC, a proposal to return to a straight Disi

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why should II matter at all? > > It's an objective acknowledgment of the significance of the proposed > changes. IIRC, a proposal to return to a straight Disinterested / > Interested system (basically reducing scope from 0-to

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:00 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 15:57 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: >>> Proposal: Chambers II >>> AI: 3 >>> II: 1 >> Please propose this with an II of at least 2, or you'll get an automatic >> AGAINST from me. Changing the pro

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:00 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 15:57 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: >> Proposal: Chambers II >> AI: 3 >> II: 1 > Please propose this with an II of at least 2, or you'll get an automatic > AGAINST from me. Changing the proposal system so radical

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > Prepend to R2156: > {{ > There is an Ordinary chamber. > }} This would allow ordinary proposals to affect Power=2 rules, provided that they get at least 2-to-1 support weighted by ordinary voting power. Given that this weighting has undemocratic by a roughly 4-to-1 ratio lately,

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 15:57 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: > Proposal: Chambers II > AI: 3 > II: 1 Please propose this with an II of at least 2, or you'll get an automatic AGAINST from me. Changing the proposal system so radically (or at least, moving a lot of things around that will need to be checked

DIS: Re: Proto: Chambers II

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
Proposal: Chambers II AI: 3 II: 1 { Remove all but the last paragraph from R2196 Create a new rule titled "Chambers" with Power=3 and the following text: {{ A chamber exists only if defined by a rule that specifies, for decisions to adopt proposals circulated within that chamber: 1) The set of el