DIS: Re: BUS: Two proposals

2008-11-15 Thread Taral
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposal: This sounds like a job for the Rulekeepor > (AI = 3, please) > > Create a rule titled "Cleanliness" with Power 3 and this text: > > The Rulekeepor CAN clean a rule without objection by specifying > one or m

DIS: Re: BUS: Two proposals

2008-07-26 Thread Taral
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposal: But what is truth? > (AI = 2, please) Bravo. A well-thought-out balance. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Two proposals

2007-11-26 Thread Taral
On 11/24/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > subject of rights and obligations under the rules. An > biological organism that is capable of communicating by email in An -> A -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-23 Thread Zefram
I wrote: >I ran it by hand and it output "Pikhq\n". Debug mode of the villes page >reveals a bug in that interpreter: I reported the bug, and the interpreter is now repaired. It gives the correct output on the Pikhq program. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-23 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >Mrphl? I ran this through http://koti.mbnet.fi/villes/php/bf.php >and http://www.iwriteiam.nl/Ha_bf_online.html and neither one gave >any coherent output. I ran it by hand and it output "Pikhq\n". Debug mode of the villes page reveals a bug in that interpreter: 1 (0): > | a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-23 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >As a Brainfuck programmer, Ah yes, a much nicer language than it is given credit for. Unreadable, but easy to write in. On the subject of unreadable programs, may I draw your attention to my own efforts in write-only Perl: http://www.fysh.org/~zefram/eht/eht http://www.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: >-[<->+++]<-.>+[<+>-]<.++.---.+.>---[<->+]<. Mrphl? I ran this through http://koti.mbnet.fi/villes/php/bf.php and http://www.iwriteiam.nl/Ha_bf_online.html and neither one gave any coherent output.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Monday 22 October 2007 17:01:26 Zefram wrote: > Surely you're aware that brevity is not an untrammelled virtue? The > RSA algorithm can be expressed in three lines of Perl, but that > doesn't mean that doing so is a good idea. > > -zefram > As a Brainfuck programmer, anything worth doing i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread comex
On Monday 22 October 2007, Zefram wrote: > You're not a programmer, are you. *google* Oh, actually you are. If you google me, you'll find a lot of crap, much of it really old. Well, I suppose rudeness is the best response to "No, I disagree.", but I wasn't really expecting it. A Python list c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Taral
On 10/22/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're not a programmer, are you. *google* Oh, actually you are. > Surely you're aware that brevity is not an untrammelled virtue? The RSA > algorithm can be expressed in three lines of Perl, but that doesn't mean > that doing so is a good idea.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >By the way, you could have said as much when I protoed. Sorry, not sure why I didn't comment specifically on that revision. Probably I'd just given up on it as irretrievably broken, and thought that the comments on the first version were sufficient to express that. >> Bad style for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >I did not mean precedent necessarily. Having a continuous archive of the >game is its own end, is it not? Yes, and the SD list is crap for that. You included the provision for deletion of "irrelevant" CFJs, which is at odds with the historical usage. Even without deletions, the SD

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread comex
On Monday 22 October 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > I agree with Zefram. Even assuming that you succeed in finding the > case that you're looking for, and that the statement is clearer than > average, the result generally can't be applied to whatever the current > situation may be without the context of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On 10/22/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Stare Decisis document was never really useful. > I disagree. It serves as a good record of CFJs that is nevertheless short > enough to post in its entirety to the list, which could be useful if, say, > the CotC database fails someday. I agree

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread comex
On Monday 22 October 2007, Zefram wrote: > Makes a pig's ear of it. You're right. The terminology concerning the suspended state is somewhat confusing (at least to me), as I didn't realize the rule implied suspended-removes-existing-judgement until just now. By the way, you could have said as m

DIS: Re: BUS: Two Proposals

2007-10-22 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >[[Switchifies status, thereby removing the annoying evaluated clauses.   Makes a pig's ear of it. In the current system, a question being suspended is definitively mutually exclusive with it having a judgement or being open. You've separated one status item into two, allowing combi

DIS: Re: BUS: two proposals relating to low AIs

2007-01-11 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: H. Promotor, I hereby submit the following Proposal, entitled "hoopy": --- Be it therefore resolved that a Rule be created with title "Sass That Hoopy" and text: When the Clerk of the Courts publishes a Judgement as required by Rule 591, e must accompany the publi