Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-13 Thread Pavitra
On Friday 12 September 2008 03:27:37 pm Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's still possible to have instruments with power less than 1, > > though I've never seen it happen in practice. > > Unless I'm missing a loophole, such an inst

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Power 1.5, actually, but I grant that. > > At Power 1, you can amend R1922 to authorize yourself to grant MwoP to > whomever you want. R1922 should have at least the same power as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An Emergency Session would defeat the less rude method. > > -woggle Then I suppose the politest way would be to add a clause that automatically deregisters everyone only if an Emergency Session is called.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 14:14 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:06 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:58 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> Proto: > >> > >> Append the following text to Rule 2166 (Assets): > >> > >> Creation, destruction, and changes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 13:38, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Take registration as an analogy. Registration has a Power-3 benefit >> (the ability to vote on democratic proposals), but that doesn't mean >> that registratio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take registration as an analogy. Registration has a Power-3 benefit > (the ability to vote on democratic proposals), but that doesn't mean > that registration needs to be tightly regulated at power 3 as well. Well, for better

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:17 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Another point: if a document defines an asset as a currency, does that >> explicitly permit free exchanges of it? > > No. Transferability is subject to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's still possible to have instruments with power less than 1, though > I've never seen it happen in practice. Unless I'm missing a loophole, such an instrument would have to be a rule, and it would need a passed AI <= 1 prop

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:17 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another point: if a document defines an asset as a currency, does that > explicitly permit free exchanges of it? No. Transferability is subject to modification by the backing document, the same as for any asset. In the RPG exam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sure, it just prevents that thing from being done by a non-instrument. > > And it should be noted that securing at power 0 in effect secures at > pow

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure, it just prevents that thing from being done by a non-instrument. And it should be noted that securing at power 0 in effect secures at power 1, since you can't have a proposal with an AI < 1.0.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:06 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:58 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> Proto: >> >> Append the following text to Rule 2166 (Assets): >> >> Creation, destruction, and changes in ownership of assets not >> explicitly permitted by their

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:58 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would be easier to manipulate point holdings at Power=1 to award > > wins to all relevant persons. > > Proto: > > Append the following text to Rule 2166 (Assets):

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be easier to manipulate point holdings at Power=1 to award > wins to all relevant persons. Proto: Append the following text to Rule 2166 (Assets): Creation, destruction, and changes in ownership of assets

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Power 1.5, actually, but I grant that. >> >> At Power 1, you can amend R192

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Power 1.5, actually, but I grant that. > > At Power 1, you can amend R1922 to authorize yourself to grant MwoP to > whomever you want. R1922 should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Power 1.5, actually, but I grant that. At Power 1, you can amend R1922 to authorize yourself to grant MwoP to whomever you want. R1922 should have at least the same power as R649. Of course, regardless of the power of R1922

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:16, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 5698 D 1 3.0 comex Power Patent Titles >> AGAINST. Simply upmutating R1922 would not make it any more difficult >> to award the patent titles d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5696-5699

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:16 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 5698 D 1 3.0 comex Power Patent Titles >> AGAINST. Simply upmutating R1922 would not make it any more difficult >> to award the patent titles