Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, comex wrote: >> It is reasonable to expect a small modicum of effort by the judge, >> such as reading messages sent to the discussion forum on the same day. > > You have to understand: when I joined this game (you can see this when > you look back at the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Alex Smith wrote: >> e can report Myndzi's playership >> as disputed, but continuing for ages with unknown registration statuses >> could really be damaging to Agora (c.f. Annabel, but probably not quite >> as bad unless Myndzi starts taking actions). >> > E

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:50 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The problem on putting the onus on the CFJ caller, here, is that e may > not be the best person to know the information. If the caller responds, > effectively, "go on, then, continue playing with unkno

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Sean Hunt
Alex Smith wrote: > Part of the serious problem in this case is that there isn't a whole lot > of information around as-is; in particular, I'm not entirely sure if > there's enough information to produce a judgement, although there may > be. Even more interesting, the playership of a player is up f

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:50 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Gratuitous arguments for the appeal: > In this case, from the Caller's Evidence, there's no record of what > happened, no reference to the event that may have made Myndzi a > player, and no reference for the judge to look it up. Only an obs

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 16:40 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, > > C-walker wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > >>> == CFJ 2586 == > >>> > >>>Myndzi is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, > C-walker wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> == CFJ 2586 == >>> >>>Myndzi is a player. >> >> I judge UNDETERMINED due to complete lack of evidence. T

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Oh but wait, that means the Caller has to expend some effort instead > of the CotC, a full appeals court, and the judges?  How un-Agoran! It is reasonable to expect a small modicum of effort by the judge, such as reading messages sent to the di

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > C-walker wrote: >> I judge UNDETERMINED due to complete lack of evidence. This is clearly >> not decidable based on the Caller's Evidence below, and as per CFJ >> 1744 it is not my job to go finding the relevant evidence in the >> archives. > > I intend

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-17 Thread Sean Hunt
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, > C-walker wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> == CFJ 2586 == >>> >>>Myndzi is a player. >> I judge UNDETERMINED due to complete lack of evidence. This