Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2. By CFJ 1303 and 1895, the statement publisher = statement sender >>and remains you (the physical sender of the message), even when you >>act on behalf of someone else

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. By CFJ 1303 and 1895, the statement publisher = statement sender >and remains you (the physical sender of the message), even when you >act on behalf of someone else. > --dividing line here > 3. F

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. >> >> Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. >> >> Thus partnerships can'

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. > > Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. > > Thus partnerships can't do anything. I disagree with this analysis of my

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread comex
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R2170 already defines "Executor" (as "the first-class person who sends > it, or who most directly and immediately causes it to be sent"). Going > back to "Grantor" and "Holder" would work. (History lesson: the rules > used t

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Rule 2170 (Who Am I?) should probably also be amended to state that >> "X CAN act on behalf of Y" constitutes a legal fiction that Y is the >> one acting, and define some useful label for X's role in the matter. > > How about, er, "Power of

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Any player CAN appeal CFJ 2050 by announcement, upon which this > rule is repealed. Why not a rule that allows late appeals with a higher support number (or Agoran Consent, would need that to get this passed anyway). -Goethe

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Rule 2170 (Who Am I?) should probably also be amended to state that > "X CAN act on behalf of Y" constitutes a legal fiction that Y is the > one acting, and define some useful label for X's role in the matter. How about, er, "Power of Attorney"? "Grantor",

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 11:03:13 pm Ed Murphy wrote: > define some useful label for X's role in the matter. "Executor"

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Charles Reiss wrote: > Proposal: Overturn CFJ 2050 > {{ > comex is a co-author of this proposal. > > Set the judgment on the question of veracity in CFJ 2050 to TRUE. > Oh this is horrid and unneeded though I agree with the arguments. Just CFJ again, there's no reason a ne

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: > Proposal: Overturn CFJ 2050 > {{ > comex is a co-author of this proposal. > > Set the judgment on the question of veracity in CFJ 2050 to TRUE. This isn't strictly needed. From Rule 591: The judgement of the question in an inquiry case, and the reasoning by which it

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. >> >> Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. >> >>

Re: DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. > > Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. > > Thus partnerships can't do anything. Umm... that is an absurd precedent.

DIS: Partnershpis can't do anything anymore

2008-08-13 Thread Quazie
By CFJ 2050 doing x on behalf of another player is really just you doing x. Thus if I make a partnership vote on something, it is really me voting. Thus partnerships can't do anything.