Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more paradox CFJs

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 1:06 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > R. Lee wrote: > > > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:39 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:38 PM Jason Cobb v

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Aris wrote: You'd think so, but then one of my messages was shot down for mentioning "kudos" instead of "karma", notwithstanding it being labeled as a Notice of Honour and otherwise following the typical form factor of one. Surely "refer" has had some formal rule definition at some point in the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more paradox CFJs

2020-05-15 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
R. Lee wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:39 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:38 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: On 5/15/20 8:29 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: I call

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:48 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > G. wrote: > > > On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: > >>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
G. wrote: On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber switch to that chamber. I CFJ "In a generic Agoran context, to ref

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 6:13 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/15/20 7:09 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > >> If we're allowed to use the words "earn", "award" and "qualify", whose > >> meanings cannot be reasonably assumed, at least no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/15/20 7:09 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: If we're allowed to use the words "earn", "award" and "qualify", whose meanings cannot be reasonably assumed, at least not in their full scope (i.e. you qualify for ribbons for seven days after you earn them, earning and awarding oneself are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:05 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: > >>> On Thu, May 14,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber switch to that cham

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3833 Assigned to Jason

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:51 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:48 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:41 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > > agor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more paradox CFJs

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:39 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:38 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 5/15/20 8:29 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > > I call for j

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3833 Assigned to Jason

2020-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:48 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:41 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 5/15/20 7:36 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > I disagree w

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3834 judged FALSE

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:46 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:43 PM Rebecca via agora-official < > agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > CFJ 3834 asks whether or not "In a generic Agoran context, to refer a > > propo

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3833 Assigned to Jason

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:41 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/15/20 7:36 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > I disagree with this bit. Since it's a by-announcement action, it's > > governed by this in R478: > > > >> that person perfo

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3834 judged FALSE

2020-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:43 PM Rebecca via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > CFJ 3834 asks whether or not "In a generic Agoran context, to refer a > proposal to a chamber is > to set its chamber switch to that chamber." > > This CFJ has a very odd statement. Generic means n

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3833 Assigned to Jason

2020-05-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/15/20 7:36 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > I disagree with this bit. Since it's a by-announcement action, it's > governed by this in R478: > >> that person performs that action by unambiguously >> and clearly specifying the action > So the "creation" is done by "specifying

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more paradox CFJs

2020-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:38 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/15/20 8:29 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > I call for judgement on this statement: It is both possible and true > that a > > rule named "A coin award" took the game action of

DIS: Re: BUS: more paradox CFJs

2020-05-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/15/20 8:29 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > I call for judgement on this statement: It is both possible and true that a > rule named "A coin award" took the game action of increasing the number of > coins R. Lee owned by 1. > I call for judgement: The above CFJ statement is about the po

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3833 Assigned to Jason

2020-05-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/15/2020 3:01 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > * "I create/submit/etc. a proposal, and I specify each of the > following properties: [shorthand]" ("create" and "specifying" are > separate verbs, so the creation is phrased as two speech acts) I disagree with this bit.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
This seems to me like the most important consideration in accepting jargon, really. Whether it's close enough to what it means such that it's easily accepted/nearly unambiguous On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 5:13 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 5/15/2

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3833 Assigned to Jason

2020-05-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/13/20 5:30 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > === CFJ 3833 === > > In the above message, Trigon created a proposal. > > == There's probably some lo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 19:13, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: > >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >>> > >>> Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: >>> >>> Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber >>> switch to that chamber. >> >> >> I CFJ "In a generic Agoran context

DIS: [draft] [Registrar] End of May zombie auction

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Since I've gotten this wrong in the past, here's a draft. Let me know if you spot an error in the list of winning bids (or anywhere else, if you feel like checking). The May zombie auction has ended. It began 2020-05-07 at 00:52, and ended 2020-05-14 at 00:52. Agora is the auctioneer. In accorda

Re: DIS: MUD Post Mortem

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 01:41, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/20 12:48 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > So, the MUD appears to have flopped. The primary reason is that I > > didn't do anything past setting it up, which is totally on me. > > Anything one else ha

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> // > ID: 8382 > Title: You Tried > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: nch > Co-authors: > > > Enact a rule titled "The Webmastor" with Power=1 and the following text: > > The Webmastor is an office. > > The Webmastor's monthly rep

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-05-15 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant via agora-official > wrote: > > > > Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber > > switch to that chamber. > > > I CFJ "In a generic Agoran context, to re

DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon Corporation Amendment Proposal] Presidential Elections

2020-05-15 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
I don't think any substantive changes are needed, but two minor comments: > I submit the following Dragon Corporation Amendment Proposal: > > --- > Presidential Elections > > Replace the first paragraph of Bylaw 6: Recordkeeping with the following: > A contract-defined office behaves like a regu