Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
No, you don't. That only applies to Docket #1. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:14 PM Rebecca wrote: > > this is patently invalid. forgot everything had to include evidence. > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > > Your honour, I submit the following argument to d0ket two: > > This cou

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't believe that this fulfills the spelling tule as the incorrect spelling falls outside of the body of the argument, as precedent for defining the body of the argument, I present the way that they have been shown in the updates. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:14 PM Rebecca wrote: > > Your honour,

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
this is patently invalid. forgot everything had to include evidence. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Rebecca wrote: > Your honour, I submit the following argument to d0ket two: > This court should rule that the purpose of a nomic is to develop into a > perfect game, and nomics therefore should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
A follow-up question to this is which standards we should follow. Additionally, i realized that I think this is invalid because I thought that I was following the evidence rule by referencing previous arguments, but I realized that it said that I must "include" evidence, which I don't believe such

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 21:05 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > The invalid one was the one that I was referencing. As for why I think > ti can be done after-the-fact, I think that it is different because so > far, it has been fulfilled outside of the arguments in a preface, so I > eith

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The invalid one was the one that I was referencing. As for why I think ti can be done after-the-fact, I think that it is different because so far, it has been fulfilled outside of the arguments in a preface, so I either think that it should be accepted in this after-the-fact form or any rule, which

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
Where is it in the initial (not the first invalid one, but in the "resubmission with corrections" message)? "resubmission" is not a formal thing so independence is assumed. And if SHALLS were allowed to be fulfilled after-the-fact, many corrections could have been made once they were pointed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I sorted it by docket, both initially and in a subsequent message, fulfilling the requirement. There is no requirement that an argument neatly fall onto a single docket. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:50 PM Alex Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 20:45 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I classify this as being on the first docket. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fatal > error in the presentation of eir reasons for G.A.N. of Agora's eksallance. In > eir argument, e stated tha

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 20:45 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fatal > error in the presentation of eir reasons for G.A.N. of Agora's > eksallance. In > eir argument, e stated that e would present six reasons. However, he >

Re: DIS: proto-contract: The Foundry

2018-07-11 Thread Aris Merchant
A very intriguing contract. It looks like it would probably work as is, but I have several improvements: The first sentence of Section 1 is phrased in a misleading way. Try "Any player CAN become a member of this contract by agreeing to join. Unambiguously taking an action defined within this cont

DIS: proto-contract: The Foundry

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
Anyone have ore? Anyone want Coins? * Refineries have no carrying capacity. * I'm standing on a Rank-5 refinery that can make 13 Coins from every ore. * Let's see if we can get people back in the Coins game! * (yes, this is a last-ditch attempt to diversify land ownership). This is a prot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #2

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
(though I encourage Counsellors to respond to invalid arguments that are interesting as this one is, as they will be part of the record even if they cannot make any limitations) Also on this one: More respect for the Most Heroic Suber as per #6. On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > W

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #2

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
While this public submission to the court is greatly appreciated, entering the contest was closed 2 days ago, so the Hon. CuddleBeam can no longer become a contestant. Close reading of the tournament regulations implies this is an automatically-INVALID rule (as opposed to being "not a rule").

DIS: My agora email keeps breaking

2018-07-11 Thread Ørjan Johansen
My email from the list keeps intermittently bouncing, and a-d and a-b got disabled for me. Again. Looking at the archive subject lines, it seems to happen whenever there's a day with particularly active discussion. I don't know why, since I cannot see the bounce messages, so I cannot take step

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I intended it to be an indirect quotation, but I'm not sure that will hold up. If it doesn't I will resubmit the argument with the correction. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:55 PM Corona wrote: > > Possibly INVALID: not referring to Agora properly, though this is an > indirect speech quotation, so it m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
No, e should be "referred to as such", but I was addressing em. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:44 PM Corona wrote: > > This isn't related to this rule in particular, but isn't addressing you > "Your Honor" illegal, given #6: "The Right Honourable > Judge G. SHALL be referred to as such"? > > ~Corona >

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Corona
Possibly INVALID: not referring to Agora properly, though this is an indirect speech quotation, so it may not count. > error in the presentation of eir reasons for Agora's eksallance. In >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Corona
​This isn't related to this rule in particular​, but isn't addressing you "Your Honor" illegal, given #6: "The Right Honourable Judge G. SHALL be referred to as such"? ~Corona On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > appears VALID (again, formal response later). > > On Wed, 11

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
appears VALID (again, formal response later). On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I present the following argument on the first docket to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fatal > error in the presentation of eir reasons for

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
This is VALID but I need to further ponder it's effect. In particular, I'll have to think about whether the construction "ask the court to rule... shall" directly imposes a shall on later rules (as the court, I can't directly impose rule conditions other than by style). On Thu, 12 Jul 2018, R

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
VALID afaict (sorry for brevity, better judgement when I have time later but wanted to opine before deadline) On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I present the following procedural argument to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselors V.J. Rada and Aris seem to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It's fine. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:16 AM Rebecca wrote: > > sorry > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > > > Th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
sorry On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > "eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
"eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I present the following argument on th

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I present the following argument on the first docket to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fata

DIS: Re: OFF: [FRC] Tournament Update

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Not an argument: Your Honor, I believe that My Fellow Counselor Aris violated FRC-6, by failing to reference The Most Heroic Peter Suber with the appropriate style.On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:28 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > FRC (Birthday) Tournament Update > > > The ELIMINATION PERIOD begins in jus