Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Quazie wrote: > >> If a Cat's Liveliness is Unknown and an action has happened that >> depends on that Cat being Dead or Alive, a new Cat, henceforth known >> to as a Kitten is created.  Players SHOULD NOT create Kittens without >> explicitly st

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Quazie wrote: > If a Cat's Liveliness is Unknown and an action has happened that > depends on that Cat being Dead or Alive, a new Cat, henceforth known > to as a Kitten is created. Players SHOULD NOT create Kittens without > explicitly stating that a Kitten is being created. If a Cat with an > U

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Quazie wrote: > If a Cat's Liveliness is Unknown and an action has happened that > depends on that Cat being Dead or Alive, a new Cat, henceforth known > to as a Kitten is created. Players SHOULD NOT create Kittens without > explicitly stating that a Kitten is being created. If a Cat with an > U

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6226 - 6236

Aaron Goldfein wrote: > 6229 Broader review complex cases O 1.7 1 Murphy > AGAINST Only one? Also, why?

DIS: Re: BUS: Democratization

Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I intend, with two support, to make proposal 6235 (The Janitor) democratic. I support.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

comex wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Quazie wrote: >>> Only if "I support times a billion!" is equivalent to "I act on behalf >>> of Quazie to cause em to register." >> I didn't register with three support, I registered if three players >> supported the fact that I was registering. > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Quazie wrote: >> Only if "I support times a billion!" is equivalent to "I act on behalf >> of Quazie to cause em to register." > > I didn't register with three support, I registered if three players > supported the fact that I was registering. That was not the cas

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Quazie wrote: >> If a Cat's Liveliness is Unknown and an action has happened that >> depends on that Cat being Dead or Alive, a new Cat, henceforth known >> to as a Kitten is created.  Players SHOULD NOT create Kittens without >> explicitly stati

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> I retract my proposal with the title {Binding Inquiries} (I'll resubmit >> the corrected version along with the Proposal Pool to reduce spam). > > Can we please keep personal actions out of official messages? If you real

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Quazie wrote: > If a Cat's Liveliness is Unknown and an action has happened that > depends on that Cat being Dead or Alive, a new Cat, henceforth known > to as a Kitten is created. Players SHOULD NOT create Kittens without > explicitly stating that a Kitten is being created. If a Cat with an > Un

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Quazie wrote: >> Proto V2: >> >> Murphy is a co-author on this Proto >> >> Create a rule named "Schroedingor" with the following body: >> >> Schroedingor is an office;  Its holder is responsible for the tracking >> of Cats and Kittens. >> >> Schr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I retract my proposal with the title {Binding Inquiries} (I'll resubmit > the corrected version along with the Proposal Pool to reduce spam). Can we please keep personal actions out of official messages?

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Quazie wrote: > Proto V2: > > Murphy is a co-author on this Proto > > Create a rule named "Schroedingor" with the following body: > > Schroedingor is an office; Its holder is responsible for the tracking > of Cats and Kittens. > > Schroedingor's weekly duties include the reporting of all Cats

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Proto V2: Murphy is a co-author on this Proto Create a rule named "Schroedingor" with the following body: Schroedingor is an office;  Its holder is responsible for the tracking of Cats and Kittens. Schroedingor's weekly duties include the reporting of all Cats that have had  a change in Livelin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, comex wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Quazie wrote: >>> I don't even think you're a player. >> I like to believe I am. > > Only if "I support times a billion!" is equivalent to "I act on behalf > of Quazie to cause em to register." > I didn't register w

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Quazie wrote: > I think we need to keep track of when things need to be kept track of > for ambiguous reasons, as such, I present V1 of Schrodingor. Co-author credit plz? I suggested the general idea via IM. > Schrodingor's monthly duties include the reporting of all Cats and > Kittens that hav

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Quazie wrote: >> I don't even think you're a player. > I like to believe I am. Only if "I support times a billion!" is equivalent to "I act on behalf of Quazie to cause em to register."

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Quazie wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: > >> > >> I submit the a proposal entitled "The Power of Capitalization" > >> adoption index = 3 with the following body: > >> "Re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: >> >> I submit the a proposal entitled "The Power of Capitalization" >> adoption index = 3 with the following body: >> "Replace all instances of 'power' in the ruleset with 'Power'" > > I d

DIS: Re: BUS: The Power of capitalization

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: > I submit the a proposal entitled "The Power of Capitalization" > adoption index = 3 with the following body: > "Replace all instances of 'power' in the ruleset with 'Power'" > I don't even think you're a player.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2464 assigned to Murphy

I wrote: > Then the PNP spent Notes as noted above (a total of 12 E and 12 G#), > but had 3 G# Notes at the end. Accordingly, I judge CFJ 2464 TRUE. Oops, I meant 12 E and 14 G#. I would transfer a prop from myself to Quazie for pointing this out but I'm waiting till eir ambiguous registration

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:03 PM, comex wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:54 PM, comex wrote: >> [! Note: There is considerable ambiguity about the current state of >>   the ruleset; this document is most likely incomplete. !] > > CoE: No there isn't: the CFJ about mechanisms that has just been >

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

Arnold Bros (est. 1905) wrote: > 2009/4/27 Quazie : >> Proto: >> Create a rule named "Schrodingor" with the following body: > > "Schrödingor" plz :-) "Schroedingor" plz. Yes, everyone *should* be able to handle Unicode these days, but.

Re: DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

2009/4/27 Quazie : > Proto: > Create a rule named "Schrodingor" with the following body: "Schrödingor" plz :-) --Arnold Bros (est. 1905)

DIS: An Ambiguous Proto

I think we need to keep track of when things need to be kept track of for ambiguous reasons, as such, I present V1 of Schrodingor. Proto: Create a rule named "Schrodingor" with the following body: Schrodingor is an office; Its holder is responsible for the tracking of Cats and Kittens. Schrodin

DIS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:54 PM, comex wrote: > [! Note: There is considerable ambiguity about the current state of >   the ruleset; this document is most likely incomplete. !] CoE: No there isn't: the CFJ about mechanisms that has just been judged (and can be appealed) would affect the history o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451 assigned to Taral

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Taral wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM, comex wrote: >> I appeal this case. > > Oh, I spoke too soon. I think 3 rests is a fair punishment for missing an important clause in the rules, but I'm curious to see the outcome of the R101 issue.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451 assigned to Taral

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM, comex wrote: > I appeal this case. Oh, I spoke too soon. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009/4/26 Aaron Goldfein > Registrar's Census > > Date of last report: Sun, 19 Apr 09 > Date of this report: Sun, 26 Apr 09 > > Date of last ratification: Fri, 04 Jul 08 > Date of report last ratified: Sun, 29 Jun 08 > > (All times are UTC) > > Recent events > - > Mon, 13 Apr 19:01 co

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451 judged GUILTY / SILENCE by Taral

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Judge:                                  Taral > Judgement:                              GUILTY What, no appeal? :D -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2425 assigned to Yally

2009/4/26 Ed Murphy : > Appeal:                                 2425b > Decision:                               REMAND > > Judge:                                  Yally > Judgement: LOL WAT

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2464 assigned to Murphy

2009/4/26 Ed Murphy > > == CFJ 2464 == > > > > The PNP has more than one G# Note. > > I accept H. Conductor Tiger's interpretation of the PNP's message > as "until either half of a repetition fails" rather than "until a > repetition fa

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2425 assigned to Yally

Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/4/26 Ed Murphy : >> Appeal: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 2425b >> Decision: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â REMAND >> >> Judge: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yally >> Judgement: > > LOL WAT Check the history: it was

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2425 assigned to Yally

2009/4/26 Sean Hunt : > You were recused. > Ah. I didn't realise I had been assigned it.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2425 assigned to Yally

Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/4/26 Ed Murphy : >> Appeal: 2425b >> Decision: REMAND >> >> Judge: Yally >> Judgement: > > LOL WAT You were recused.

DIS: Re: BUS: Actions

2009/4/26 comex : > I CFJ on the statement: { The Executor of the first public message > sent by ago...@live.com can be determined within reasonable effort. } Perhaps TRUE; I have revealed eir identity in ##nomic.

DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving the PBA

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I transfer all Coins I own to Wooble. Fails; I'm not a Comrade.

Re: DIS: Proto: Committees 2.0

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:05 PM, comex wrote: > AGAINST, this breaks reorganization. Rules can be reorganized by proposal. > How do you know I didn't secretly move rules into different categories > after the last SLR publication (before I resigned...)? We don't, although the fact that they didn

DIS: Re: BUS: Actions

comex wrote: > I spend two notes to destroy one of my Rests. Which two?

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2464 assigned to Murphy

> == CFJ 2464 == > > The PNP has more than one G# Note. I accept H. Conductor Tiger's interpretation of the PNP's message as "until either half of a repetition fails" rather than "until a repetition fails completely". Note, however, t

DIS: Re: BUS: Monthly deputisation intent

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I intend to deputise for the Speaker to assign prerogatives for May. > > -- > ais523 > who has been doing this for ages regardless of who the Speaker is > > Aren't you already the speaker?

Re: DIS: Proto: Committees 2.0

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Proto-Proposal, AI 2.1, "Committees 2.0": > > In Rule 1681, replace: >      Rules are assigned to, ordered within, or moved between >      categories, and categories are added, changed, or empty >      categories removed, as the Rulekeepor s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >>> through any combination of actions by players except the adoption >>> of a proposal, to appeal the assignment of that judgment, then >> "any combination of actions by players except changing the rules". >> > Insufficient. A proposa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA points for me pledge

ais523 wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 13:29 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I agree to the following: >> 4. If Wooble fails to transfer crops within the specified deadline, e >> shall transfer to the Farmer either the points e received or crops >> sufficient to harvest the ID of another proposal i

Re: DIS: Proto: Committees 2.0

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:20 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Create a rule titled "Committees" with Power 2.1 and this text: (snip) > other members of the committee. Each member of the relevant > committee at the time the Agoran Decision on whether to adopt a > Passed by Committee p

DIS: Proto: Committees 2.0

Proto-Proposal, AI 2.1, "Committees 2.0": In Rule 1681, replace: Rules are assigned to, ordered within, or moved between categories, and categories are added, changed, or empty categories removed, as the Rulekeepor sees fit. with: Rules are assigned to or ordered within cat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

Yally wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Elliott Hird > > wrote: > >I was listed as "Arnold Bros", and it said that "ehrid" changed eir > >name to that. If you're going to list my new name, it would make sense > >that it would be properly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> When a binding inquiry case has a judgment and it IMPOSSIBLE, > > Missing "is". Good catch. I won't bother resubmitting for such a minor typo, that can be cleaned up after adoption. > >> through any combination of actions by players except the ad

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

coppro wrote: > When a binding inquiry case has a judgment and it IMPOSSIBLE, Missing "is". > through any combination of actions by players except the adoption > of a proposal, to appeal the assignment of that judgment, then "any combination of actions by players except changi

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA points for me pledge

On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 13:29 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I agree to the following: > 4. If Wooble fails to transfer crops within the specified deadline, e > shall transfer to the Farmer either the points e received or crops > sufficient to harvest the ID of another proposal in the same chamber >

DIS: Re: BUS: NoV, obnoxious intents

On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 19:42 -0400, comex wrote: > I take the obvious action. /me looks for an excuse to claim that the obvious action there was to join the Small Partial Mousetrap... -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >      The entities qualified to be assigned as judge of an appeal case >      are the judicial panels consisting of exactly min(3,1+2*R) members >      (where R is the rank of the prior case), where each of the members >      is qualified to be a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> I was listed as "Arnold Bros", and it said that "ehrid" changed eir >> name to that. If you're going to list my new name, it would make sense >> that it would be properly written; and "ehrid" is unambiguously an >> error. > > That's a typo.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Nicknames

Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I CFJ on the following sentence. Arnold Bros (est. 1905) is a confusing > nickname. > > -Yally You'd be better off NoVing em.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:12 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Ian Kelly wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: When a binding inquiry case is eligible for ratification, and it has a judgment of TRUE, any player CAN, by announcement, ratify >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:12 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > >> When a binding inquiry case is eligible for ratification, and it > >> has a judgment of TRUE, any player CAN, by announcement, ratify > >> the Inquiry S

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> When a binding inquiry case is eligible for ratification, and it >> has a judgment of TRUE, any player CAN, by announcement, ratify >> the Inquiry Statement. When a binding inquiry case is eligible for >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Elliott Hird < penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com> wrote: > 2009/4/26 Sean Hunt : > > Elliott Hird wrote: > >> CoE: My name was ehird. Now it's Arnold Bros (est. 1905). > > ehird is still sufficient to identify you unambiguously. There is no > > reason why the Registr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009/4/26 Sean Hunt : > Elliott Hird wrote: >> CoE: My name was ehird. Now it's Arnold Bros (est. 1905). > ehird is still sufficient to identify you unambiguously. There is no > reason why the Registrar or any other officer or player should be forced > to refer to you (or to Warrigal) by another na

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009/4/26 comex : > Your name is Elliot Hird No it's not, it's Elliott Hird.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 01:57 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > When a binding inquiry case is eligible for ratification, and it > > has a judgment of TRUE, any player CAN, by announcement, ratify > > the Inquiry Statement. When a binding

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >      When a binding inquiry case is eligible for ratification, and it >      has a judgment of TRUE, any player CAN, by announcement, ratify >      the Inquiry Statement. When a binding inquiry case is eligible for >      ratification, and it ha